Skyfall - Teaser Trailer - Discussion Thread

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    Bounine wrote:
    I just watched CR last night and I had forgotten how much fun Bond actually had - a fair bit! I definitely will be disappointed if SF has more humour than CR, that's for sure.

    Why are so many people against the darker, moodier Bond films like TLD, LTK and QOS? One thing I do actually like about QOS is the level and style of the humour. We've had so much humour during the Bond films over the years. For Craig's tenure as Bond, I would like his films to remain darker and more Flemingsque. After Craig's left the role, go back to full on comedy by all means.

    Well prepare to be disappointed. The producers have said that SF will have more humour than CR and QOS.
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    Germanlady wrote:
    doubleoego wrote:
    I must get my hands on this 4/5 minute footage and that being said, that length of footage is nowhere near a "teaser".

    Would that be something, that will never be shown to the public - just to show the folks at the party, what to expect? Since most of those people worked on the film.

    Possibly but they could end up doing what the new spider-man film is doing and releasing this extended footage closer to the time of release.

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    Bounine wrote:
    I just watched CR last night and I had forgotten how much fun Bond actually had - a fair bit! I definitely will be disappointed if SF has more humour than CR, that's for sure.

    Why are so many people against the darker, moodier Bond films like TLD, LTK and QOS? One thing I do actually like about QOS is the level and style of the humour. We've had so much humour during the Bond films over the years. For Craig's tenure as Bond, I would like his films to remain darker and more Flemingsque. After Craig's left the role, go back to full on comedy by all means.

    Well prepare to be disappointed. The producers have said that SF will have more humour than CR and QOS.

    Oh, I've certainly prepared for that. I definitely have my reservations about this film. I'm not expecting anything wonderful that's for sure. As soon as I read the QOS reviews shortly after the UK release, I suspected from the beginning that they'd go too far in the humour department for Bond 23 due to the criticism regarding QOS supposedly having too little humour. SF will have too much action too. The contemporary Bond films will never live up to the late great Bond films of the pre Brosnan era. Gone are the glorious days. It had to end somehwere though. :)

  • Bounine wrote:
    "Craig looks amazing, love the shot of him jogging. Hope we get to see more of his day to day stuff, as this is an element of Bond not often shown in the films."

    Same here. A shot of him in his flat off the Kings Road getting ready for work would be fantastic. Maybe enjoying a plate of scrambled eggs. This is something I've been hoping to see for years. Won't get my hopes up though.

    I hope that chap giving Bond the word association test is a certain Sir James Moloney (the neurologist from the Fleming books).

    Well, they have said there will be some 'classic' & loved characters introduced, so you never know.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Saw this trailer in the cinema yesterday (next to Batman!) and it really, really looked good! Just, wow!
    Oh, and MIB 3 was fun as well!
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    I held out watching the trailer on the internet so I could see it in the cinema for the first time then they didn't even show it! LOL. Unless I arrived too late but they don't usually show the trailers until after the ads and I'd arrived during these so I don't know. I had wanted to see MIB though. Wouldn't have gone to the film just to see the trailer. Yes, MIB is a bit of fun. :) I enjoyed it.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Four to five minutes of film shown, wow that was lucky. I'm guessing it was an action scene. Maybe we will see it soon, or just after the next trailer at the latest.
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    Bounine wrote:
    "Craig looks amazing, love the shot of him jogging. Hope we get to see more of his day to day stuff, as this is an element of Bond not often shown in the films."

    Same here. A shot of him in his flat off the Kings Road getting ready for work would be fantastic. Maybe enjoying a plate of scrambled eggs. This is something I've been hoping to see for years. Won't get my hopes up though.

    I hope that chap giving Bond the word association test is a certain Sir James Moloney (the neurologist from the Fleming books).

    Well, they have said there will be some 'classic' & loved characters introduced, so you never know.
    Fellow Agents,
    I couldn't agree more with these observations!
    Two things potentially thrill me about Skyfall.
    One is the fact that it is partly set in England - about time!
    The second is the hope that we might get some Flemingesque touches regarding character development.
    I do have two corresponding concerns - certainly I don't want more humour - just give me more story and be careful with the imitation Bourne action sequences. This style has been superseded by a new bone crunching realism as demonstrated in "The Siege" and "Hay Wire." I hope "Skyfall" adopts this wide shot realism and drops the frenetic cutting technique.
    Regards,
    Bentley
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    Went into Comet today (a UK electrical store) and they were looping the Skyfall trailer on a 55" Sony TV with surround sound. Man, it looks good like this.
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    So my prediction of three trailers is now two trailers and this preview.
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Four to five minutes of film shown, wow that was lucky. I'm guessing it was an action scene. Maybe we will see it soon, or just after the next trailer at the latest.

    Sam, it can't happen soon enough for me brother. I am definitely highly jealous that I wasn't there to see it myself.
    ReneMathis wrote:
    Went into Comet today (a UK electrical store) and they were looping the Skyfall trailer on a 55" Sony TV with surround sound. Man, it looks good like this.

    I have a 46" Sony Bravia and a soundbar, which is a wonderful alternative to a surround sound system and far less wiring. I'll bet it looked awesome. Lucky you.

    As far as humor, I'm ready for some. While I appreciated the humor there was in QOS, I'd rather see SkyFall return more to some of the playful character interactions we got in CR and some Connery/Moore type one liners. I think the movie will be serious enough otherwise and I am very optimistic that this movie could be one of the finest in the entire series based on what little I have seen and read.
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Four to five minutes of film shown, wow that was lucky. I'm guessing it was an action scene. Maybe we will see it soon, or just after the next trailer at the latest.

    Sam, it can't happen soon enough for me brother. I am definitely highly jealous that I wasn't there to see it myself.
    ReneMathis wrote:
    Went into Comet today (a UK electrical store) and they were looping the Skyfall trailer on a 55" Sony TV with surround sound. Man, it looks good like this.

    I have a 46" Sony Bravia and a soundbar, which is a wonderful alternative to a surround sound system and far less wiring. I'll bet it looked awesome. Lucky you.

    As far as humor, I'm ready for some. While I appreciated the humor there was in QOS, I'd rather see SkyFall return more to some of the playful character interactions we got in CR and some Connery/Moore type one liners. I think the movie will be serious enough otherwise and I am very optimistic that this movie could be one of the finest in the entire series based on what little I have seen and read.

    Are you trying to provoke a kicking from the anti-humour brigade? I'd be careful what you say round here. Careless talk costs lives!
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    I think a more accurate name for the brigade would be: "the not too much humour brigade". :)
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    Well prepare to be disappointed. The producers have said that SF will have more humour than CR and QOS.

    When did they make this terrible but expected announcement just of curiosity?

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Bounine wrote:

    Well prepare to be disappointed. The producers have said that SF will have more humour than CR and QOS.

    When did they make this terrible but expected announcement just of curiosity?

    I don't believe they - point blank - did. It will have funny lines but so did the past two films.

    I feel it will be a little more in line with Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace than people care to admit.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    What is wrong with a little humor. I laugh all through CR and QoS, so it isn't like Skyfall will surprise us with funny moments. Those moments have been present in the Craig era from the start, but only certain people get the humor of it.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I can't wait to see the Whishaw-Craig chemistry. Plenty of humour (and I don't mean Moore-type humour) will come from this.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    I can't wait to see the Whishaw-Craig chemistry. Plenty of humour (and I don't mean Moore-type humour) will come from this.

    If you've read some of the script, it is very in line with Desmond Llewelyn's work of the past. Some great lines and 'fun' will come from this. I'm really looking forward to it.

    If humour must be included, the Q scenes are as good a time as any, to do it.
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    I can't wait to see the Whishaw-Craig chemistry. Plenty of humour (and I don't mean Moore-type humour) will come from this.

    If you've read some of the script, it is very in line with Desmond Llewelyn's work of the past. Some great lines and 'fun' will come from this. I'm really looking forward to it.

    If humour must be included, the Q scenes are as good a time as any, to do it.

    Where is the script? Have you read it?

    I think the whole 'humour' debate is slightly retarded. Most people (including DC) have stated they'd like it if Bond lightened up a bit. This doesn't mean people want a return to the Roger Moore years (if only!) but rather that you can take the whole glum, dour Bond thing a bit too far. Any way, I suspect everyone fundamentally agrees, but just likes an argument too much to admit it.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    yes @Getafix, I don't understand how people associate 'more humour' with 'Roger Moore-camp'..... TB was much more humorous, imo, than CR and QOS.... was TB similar to a Moore film ?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    yes @Getafix, I don't understand how people associate 'more humour' with 'Roger Moore-camp'..... TB was much more humorous, imo, than CR and QOS.... was TB similar to a Moore film ?

    No, TB could balance humor with everything else, things lost in the Moore films.
  • edited June 2012 Posts: 11,425
    yes @Getafix, I don't understand how people associate 'more humour' with 'Roger Moore-camp'..... TB was much more humorous, imo, than CR and QOS.... was TB similar to a Moore film ?

    No, TB could balance humor with everything else, things lost in the Moore films.

    The point surely is that TB was overall more humourous than CR and QoS, NOT that any one wants to go back to Moore-esque slapstick. There seems to be an inability/refusal to accept that there is any middle ground between MR and QoS. This argument can and will go on for ever because those 'arguing' simply refuse to recognise gradations of humour in the Bond series - for them it's either 2 hours of jokes or 2 jokes in 2 hours, with no middle ground.
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    Getafix wrote:
    yes @Getafix, I don't understand how people associate 'more humour' with 'Roger Moore-camp'..... TB was much more humorous, imo, than CR and QOS.... was TB similar to a Moore film ?

    No, TB could balance humor with everything else, things lost in the Moore films.

    The point surely is that TB was overall more humourous than CR and QoS, NOT that any one wants to go back to Moore-esque slapstick. There seems to be an inability/refusal to accept that there is any middle ground between MR and QoS. This argument can and will go on for ever because those 'arguing' simply refuse to recognise gradations of humour in the Bond series - for them it's either 2 hours of jokes or 2 jokes in 2 hours, with no middle ground.

    I'm all for great one-liners, I just don't want a comedy packed Bond films that is more poky/camp than a serious spy adventure. TB is a great example of a great high intensity plot and also the best humor of the Connery era. The thing about the humor in Connery's era is that there is great content there, but it isn't slabbed on like it is in Moore's films, and it leaves room for great action and drama in addition.
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    Getafix wrote:
    yes @Getafix, I don't understand how people associate 'more humour' with 'Roger Moore-camp'..... TB was much more humorous, imo, than CR and QOS.... was TB similar to a Moore film ?

    No, TB could balance humor with everything else, things lost in the Moore films.

    The point surely is that TB was overall more humourous than CR and QoS, NOT that any one wants to go back to Moore-esque slapstick. There seems to be an inability/refusal to accept that there is any middle ground between MR and QoS. This argument can and will go on for ever because those 'arguing' simply refuse to recognise gradations of humour in the Bond series - for them it's either 2 hours of jokes or 2 jokes in 2 hours, with no middle ground.

    I'm all for great one-liners, I just don't want a comedy packed Bond films that is more poky/camp than a serious spy adventure. TB is a great example of a great high intensity plot and also the best humor of the Connery era. The thing about the humor in Connery's era is that there is great content there, but it isn't slabbed on like it is in Moore's films, and it leaves room for great action and drama in addition.

    Well, I think that's what everyone wants to see now. Unless you think CR and QoS fully delivered that satisfying full-fat experience you've just described.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Yes, CR and QoS were not only satisfying on a dramatic and cinematic level, but also in the humor department, where I laugh and smirk a lot throughout, but like the Connery era, it doesn't feel caked on.
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    Yes, CR and QoS were not only satisfying on a dramatic and cinematic level, but also in the humor department, where I laugh and smirk a lot throughout, but like the Connery era, it doesn't feel caked on.

    Fair enough. I don't claim that they are without humour, but would beg to differ. IMO, good solid films that they are, they do not provide the fully satisfying full-fat burger and cheese of action and humour that I expect from a proper Bond movie. I believe DC is on record saying pretty much the same thing.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Getafix wrote:
    Yes, CR and QoS were not only satisfying on a dramatic and cinematic level, but also in the humor department, where I laugh and smirk a lot throughout, but like the Connery era, it doesn't feel caked on.

    Fair enough. I don't claim that they are without humour, but would beg to differ. IMO, good solid films that they are, they do not provide the fully satisfying full-fat burger and cheese of action and humour that I expect from a proper Bond movie. I believe DC is on record saying pretty much the same thing.

    I've never heard him say that, especially about CR.
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    Getafix wrote:
    Yes, CR and QoS were not only satisfying on a dramatic and cinematic level, but also in the humor department, where I laugh and smirk a lot throughout, but like the Connery era, it doesn't feel caked on.

    Fair enough. I don't claim that they are without humour, but would beg to differ. IMO, good solid films that they are, they do not provide the fully satisfying full-fat burger and cheese of action and humour that I expect from a proper Bond movie. I believe DC is on record saying pretty much the same thing.

    I've never heard him say that, especially about CR.

    “You have to have a script that has the bones of comedy,” Craig tells us. “Comedy in Bond films, for me, comes out of the situations people get into. They're exciting, and hopefully heart-stopping, and the comedy comes out of one-liners and things. When Sam [Mendes] came in, it was key for all of us that there's a lightness of touch in the writing that's not been as evident in the past two.”

    Producer Barbara Broccoli agrees. “It's got those situations where you think, 'You could only see this in a Bond movie,'” she adds. “That's where the wit comes into it.”
  • edited June 2012 Posts: 11,425
    As it said before, I don't want a return to the Moore era. I don't want lots of sight gags or actually lame one-liners. I'd just like a little more genuine humour and lightness of touch. Just like the Craigster.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Getafix wrote:
    As it said before, I don't want a return to the Moore era. I don't want lots of sight gags or actually lame one-liners. I'd just like a little more genuine humour and lightness of touch. Just like the Craigster.

    So something like what Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol managed?
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