The James Bond Questions Thread

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    Murdock wrote: »
    My personal theory is that there are 3 era's.

    1962-1985 is the Classic Era. Connery, Lazenby and Moore are the same Bond.
    1987-2002 is the first reboot. Dalton and Brosnan's Bond are the same Bond, Even though we didn't see it, Bond married Tracy and she died just the same.
    2006- New Reboot. Craig is the current Bond from this era.

    Not a bad theory. I guess no one really knows for sure, other than Craig being a reboot.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    How did Tracy get shot in the head through the front window?

    I think as Blofeld's Mercedes was rounding the slight right corner up ahead of Bond's Aston, one stray bullet nicked her.

    I have a question as well. Does anybody know what version of the Bond theme starts playing at around 1:44?


    It's the guitar riff from the Phifer Broz trailer music for Casino Royale with a lower pitch. here's the riff.

    http://picosong.com/6wwj/

    Dang! You know that you're MI6's audio expert?

    Hehe I've given myself that title unofficially. ;;) If I hear Bond music anywhere, I know it. I've also heard some used in the oddest of places.

    What's the oddest place you've heard a Bond song?

    I've heard snippets of Music from the 2005 FRWL videogame used in those murder recreation mystery shows as well as a scene from the recent Dumb and Dumber 2 film.
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
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    How does Gustav Graves become a well known and successful British businessperson, and earn the Queen's trust to be Knighted, in only 14 months?
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
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    How does Gustav Graves become a well known and successful British businessperson, and earn the Queen's trust to be Knighted, in only 14 months?

    He doesn't. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense and there's no explanation for it.

    Do people also wonder whether Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock Holmes is a "different" Sherlock Holmes from Sir Arthur Doyle's? It seems like a fairly absurd exercise in futility.
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    Brosnan is the same as Dalton, who is the same as all the others. Two clues : the PTS of GE takes place when the Soviet Union still existed, which means when eiter Moore or Dalton were active. And second, in the Q scene from DAD, Bond knows how to make the gadgets work, and nick a rebreather. So yes, from 1962 to 2002, Bond is the same, regardless of which actor plays him.
  • DariusDarius UK
    edited October 2015 Posts: 354
    Question about the original timeline and the reboot - With the reboot, are we to "assume" that the original timeline has happened at some point (or, with CR and QOS, sometime after those), or did the original timeline just "not happen?"

    CR was just that -- a reboot.

    Any continuity from pre-CR movies has been ignored and from CR onward, the timeline is a completely new one. Bond never married Tracy, never encountered SPECTRE or Blofeld (until SP possibly), never encountered Dr No, Goldfinger, Emilio Largo etc. One surmises that this is now all yet still to come.

    :)
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
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    Sark wrote: »
    How does Gustav Graves become a well known and successful British businessperson, and earn the Queen's trust to be Knighted, in only 14 months?

    He doesn't. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense and there's no explanation for it.

    Do people also wonder whether Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock Holmes is a "different" Sherlock Holmes from Sir Arthur Doyle's? It seems like a fairly absurd exercise in futility.

    LOL! As well, some of those months would have been secretly relocating to Cuba, and the gene therapy surgeries. :))
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Does anybody know if the SP trailer rendition of OHMSS is available anywhere?
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    You mean the music you hear in the "Spectre" trailer ? Well, there is a cover available on iTunes. I think you can find it easily.
  • What exactly is the slanted ring around the 'E' in GoldenEye?
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    What exactly is the slanted ring around the 'E' in GoldenEye?
    As far as I can tell, it's suppose to imply the orbit of a satellite.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    In the CR theme song, "You Know MY Name," who is the singer speaking to? I know it's from Bond's perspective, but who is he talking to?
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
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    Someone said it was from M's perspective, which is an interesting take on the song.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2015 Posts: 2,138
    In the CR theme song, "You Know MY Name," who is the singer speaking to? I know it's from Bond's perspective, but who is he talking to?

    Well, my thoughts are

    If you take a life, do you know what you'll give
    Odds are, you won't like what it is
    - in the film Bond is killing for the first time, he feels the kills (mirror scene). Again M telling him he has to be more as bond puts it "half hit man half monk".

    When the storm arrives, would you be seen with me
    By the merciless eyes I've deceived
    - Vesper Deceives Bond

    I've seen angels fall from blinding heights
    But you yourself are nothing so divine
    Just next in line
    Expresses Bonds feelings after learning of Vesper's deceit. She was not what he thought she was, she was no angel after all (obviously he did not learn of her reasons until QOS)

    Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
    The odds will betray you And I will replace you
    You can't deny the prize; it may never fulfill you
    It longs to kill you
    Are you willing to die
    - The line works because of the films poker scenes with it course being about what odds the other player has of holding a higher hand. Again about Vesper she stole the prize money and ends up dead.

    The coldest blood runs through my veins
    You know my name
    This also works because Mr White at the end asks Bond who he is.

    If you come inside, things will not be the same
    When you return to my night
    If you think you've won
    You never saw me change
    The game that we have been playing
    Bond let Vesper in, then Bond changes forever at end of Casino due to the events. Vesper of course never saw him change because she's dead and her that caused the change.

    I've seen diamonds cut through harder men
    Than you yourself
    but if you must pretend
    You may meet your end
    - Diamonds of course being a suit in a game of cards. This I expect is directed toward Le Chiffre. Often felt in the film the straight flush should have been from the diamond suit which would have linked it to this lyric perfectly


    Try to hide your hand
    Forget how to feel
    Life is gone with just a spin of the wheel
    A spin of the wheel
    - Again paints pictures of the film, the hand reference being concealing your card hand in poker. The Spin of the wheel, the spectacular Aston Martin crash.




    Just my thoughts, of course open to interpretation.


    I do however like the M explanation that's puts a very interesting twist on it.


  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Sark wrote: »
    Someone said it was from M's perspective, which is an interesting take on the song.


    In the CR theme song, "You Know MY Name," who is the singer speaking to? I know it's from Bond's perspective, but who is he talking to?

    Well, my thoughts are

    If you take a life, do you know what you'll give
    Odds are, you won't like what it is
    - in the film Bond is killing for the first time, he feels the kills (mirror scene). Again M telling him he has to be more as bond puts it "half hit man half monk".

    When the storm arrives, would you be seen with me
    By the merciless eyes I've deceived
    - Vesper Deceives Bond

    I've seen angels fall from blinding heights
    But you yourself are nothing so divine
    Just next in line
    Expresses Bonds feelings after learning of Vesper's deceit. She was not what he thought she was, she was no angel after all (obviously he did not learn of her reasons until QOS)

    Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
    The odds will betray you And I will replace you
    You can't deny the prize; it may never fulfill you
    It longs to kill you
    Are you willing to die
    - The line works because of the films poker scenes with it course being about what odds the other player has of holding a higher hand. Again about Vesper she stole the prize money and ends up dead.

    The coldest blood runs through my veins
    You know my name
    This also works because Mr White at the end asks Bond who he is.

    If you come inside, things will not be the same
    When you return to my night
    If you think you've won
    You never saw me change
    The game that we have been playing
    Bond let Vesper in, then Bond changes forever at end of Casino due to the events. Vesper of course never saw him change because she's dead and her that caused the change.

    I've seen diamonds cut through harder men
    Than you yourself
    but if you must pretend
    You may meet your end
    - Diamonds of course being a suit in a game of cards. This I expect is directed toward Le Chiffre. Often felt in the film the straight flush should have been from the diamond suit which would have linked it to this lyric perfectly


    Try to hide your hand
    Forget how to feel
    Life is gone with just a spin of the wheel
    A spin of the wheel
    - Again paints pictures of the film, the hand reference being concealing your card hand in poker. The Spin of the wheel, the spectacular Aston Martin crash.




    Just my thoughts, of course open to interpretation.


    I do however like the M explanation that's puts a very interesting twist on it.


    Hmmm...some very interesting takes on the song. Thank you.
  • Posts: 1,068
    Is there a thread to appreciate the world's most famous car, the DB5, it's form and it's role / portrayal in the series? It doesn't really fit into any category I can see on the menu.

    I found a gorgeous series of pictures (120 images) whilst googling and want to share them with you if you haven't had the good fortune to see them.

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-048.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-001.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-025.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-018.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-059.jpg

    I've saved them onto photobucket in case they're withdrawn off the original website:
    check this out - http://supercharged.fr/2012/02/james-bond-retrouvera-son-aston-martin-db5.html/james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-001

    Theses are immense and really Bond 'automotive pornography' and excellent material for a great desktop picture! Which one of the 120 though!?
  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
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    @andmcit My goodness those are lovely. Thanks for sharing!
  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
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    I rewatched TND the other night (by the way, I enjoyed it more this time than in the past).

    The dialogue exchange between Bond and Carver at the Hamburg launch party is fun for the obvious double entendres, but strategically, why does Bond make it so painfully obvious that he's on to Carver's scheme? I feel that indirectly leads to Paris' death shortly thereafter, making it an even more dunderheaded move. Fun, but stupid.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Bond's ego, It can work to his advantage or make him look really stupid at times. Certainly didn't do Bond any favors.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    andmcit wrote: »
    Is there a thread to appreciate the world's most famous car, the DB5, it's form and it's role / portrayal in the series? It doesn't really fit into any category I can see on the menu.

    I found a gorgeous series of pictures (120 images) whilst googling and want to share them with you if you haven't had the good fortune to see them.

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-048.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-001.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-025.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-018.jpg

    james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-059.jpg

    I've saved them onto photobucket in case they're withdrawn off the original website:
    check this out - http://supercharged.fr/2012/02/james-bond-retrouvera-son-aston-martin-db5.html/james-bond-aston-martin-db5-1964-001

    Theses are immense and really Bond 'automotive pornography' and excellent material for a great desktop picture! Which one of the 120 though!?

    See here.....

    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10513/the-most-famous-car-in-the-world-db5-thread

    Newly renamed!
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 1,068
    Nice, thanks @PropertyOfALady

    These Bond specific shots of the DB5 are stunning and I don't mind sharing thumbnails to keep the length of the thread from being too lengthy if you think that'd be OK? I realise the link to the author site is posted already but keeping them all in one thread seems a nice way to appreciate the fabulous DB5. I'm planning to get a bit more time to read into what the back story is behind this specific car but I'm up to my neck in personal work and don't want it running into tomorrow evening for obvious reasons!! :D
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Yeah, sure. Definitely use whichever thread you like. I have some research I did once that I did about them. Shall I send it to you?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Does anyone know the song playing inside the bar when Bond and Felix meet in QoS?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Does anyone know the song playing inside the bar when Bond and Felix meet in QoS?

    I have a fan compiled "Expanded" edition soundtrack of QOS and this was on it. I don't know if Arnold composed this but It is quite nice and Bondian.
    http://picosong.com/6mUL/
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Murdock, while that's an amazing track, I was referring to the Spanish song playing on the jukebox/over the speakers in the bar.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    @Creasy47, Darn sorry it wasn't it.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Why was the decision made to kill Judi Dench's M? Does anyone know? Sam Mendes said that it was in an early draft of the Skyfall script written by Peter Morgan. I had always falsely believed, up until just now, that Dench wanted out of the part, but that wasn't the case. She said she could've gone on playing M forever, and that she cried when she was told of her character's death. Although I guess she's kind of right when she said to Radio Times Magazine "“They told me gently and I laughed through my tears. Seven films is a long time. But MI6 would have given her the push by now, don't you think?”

    I mean, after all, she was 79. I highly doubt the Double-O section would let her go on until 90.
  • DariusDarius UK
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    I think this may well have to do with Judi Dench's desire to ramp down her work schedule following her macular degeneration diagnosis. I don't think she wanted to leave the part, but it's a question of circumstances dictating action.

    After seven movies though, maybe it was time for change.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    Darius wrote: »
    I think this may well have to do with Judi Dench's desire to ramp down her work schedule following her macular degeneration diagnosis. I don't think she wanted to leave the part, but it's a question of circumstances dictating action.

    After seven movies though, maybe it was time for change.

    She was moved on to accommodate Mendes vision of M, Ralph Fiennes and to freshen things up. Dame Judi's tenure at the top of MI6 in the films was 17 years, all though some will argue she is not the same M. Skyfall's whole story is about her failings, the point is people like Dame Judi's M , Olivia Mansfield. They do not retire, their job is their life, she is a representation of the old British stiff upper lip, like great warriors they would rather fall on their sword. I think they gave Dame Judi a deserved ending rather than have Mallory and the intelligence committee retire her with honours despite leaving the department as she put it "A worst place than when I found it".

    Worth noting though, that Mr Mallory actually takes A demotion to take over as M.
  • In Thunderball, Largo invites Bond for a tour of the disco volante, but it never happens and isn't mentioned again. Were they planning to film this and just decided against it?
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