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However it should be grounded in some reality that is plausible.
A deft touch is required to make it believable and still escapist without crossing the line, and the level of escapism that can be tolerated changes with the times. I contend that they could get away with more escapism in the 60's than they could now. The market is just different in a post-911 world.
What really suprises me is how much escapism they injected during Moore's run in the 70's. The 70's generally were a very realistic, gritty, dark time for espionage driven thrillers, so I think a realistic, dark Bond could have done very well then. However, with Moore's TSWLM & especially MR, they chased the really escapist Star Wars angle, and ended up doing very well at the box office. I really enjoyed both films (yes, I admit I love MR) but it would have been interesting to see how a dark, stripped down Bond would have done in the 'post-Nixon can't trust anyone' real 70's movie market.
DAD is the lost Moore film, hence my avatar. One day I'll get around to writing the synopsis, with the Koreans replaced by the Khymer Rouge.
Yes it is a fine line. The best films get that balance between the realisism and the fantasy right. Some go too far in each direction - usually too much implausible fantasy nonsense.
That's a good point that I never though about before. I think I've always liked the 'wink' factor with Moore though, almost like he knew it was over the top camp and he was playing it for all it was worth and having fun with us in the audience too.
I still think TSWLM was just the right mix of OTT, wink at the audience and pure spy espionage. I absolutely love that film. Timeless, IMO.
I don't find him very convincing as Bond in most of MR for instance. That bloody smirk annyoys me...and how many times during his run did he do the same shtick of winking at the bad guys in the car next to him?
Yes Rog we get it!! It's all a joke. Well its not that funny.
You're correct. I think he hit the balance right in TSWLM, which was very OTT but still appeared somewhat grounded. MR. OP & AVTAK had perhaps a little too many 'wink' moments but I liked them too.
He was definitely a lover, not a fighter.
Moore reminds me of the fighting fish analogy from FRWL. He'd watch his opponents slog it out in a display of alpha male superiority, and when they're both too exhausted to fight, he'd strike, with elegance, wit and a cool nonchalance. That's what I like about his Bond. Realistic? Not really. But fantastically beautiful.
Dude! You're cracking me up! Agree with you totally.
…and that's the stuff that people grew tired of seeing him do. Not a hair or ruffle out of place…and clearly can't fight worth a lick.
True. He played Bond as Superman no doubt.
Which is why, in those few scenes when he does appear ruffled, I found it quite effective. In particular the MR centrifuge scene. Not a word, but it conveyed a lot. He should have done more of that IMO.
The worst dialogue from the Moore era is at the end of AVTAK hands down when he and Stacey are in the shower:
"Stacey, I'll give you a little soap here and a little soap there. Drat! I dropped the soap"
"I'll get it" (giggles)
"THAT is not the soap"
That's not shocking.
Here's the films I like a lot:
From Russia WIth Love
You Only Live twice
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Like these films to varying degrees:
Quantum of Solace
Diamonds are Forever
Keep the rest. Honestly.