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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Cast a white actor and you’ll have a group of folks crying about POC actors getting snubbed. Cast a POC and you’ll get the far right crying about how Bond has been made “woke”.

    The difference is the former group are right, whereas the latter group are wrong.
    mtm wrote: »
    It’s fair enough, I don’t know if I’d go that far but I can appreciate the thinking behind it.

    Can you at least get behind POC actors being preferred?
  • M_BlaiseM_Blaise
    Posts: 405
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Cast a white actor and you’ll have a group of folks crying about POC actors getting snubbed. Cast a POC and you’ll get the far right crying about how Bond has been made “woke”.

    The difference is the former group are right, whereas the latter group are wrong.
    mtm wrote: »
    It’s fair enough, I don’t know if I’d go that far but I can appreciate the thinking behind it.

    Can you at least get behind POC actors being preferred?

    Are you actually against them casting a white actor?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited 2:16am Posts: 6,779
    007HallY wrote: »
    Barbara said she was open to a non-white Bond anyway, so I don't really know what that point is about. Cubby had some pretty left field picks for Bond as well, and we simply don't know what he would have thought of this if he were around today. I don't actually know if he ever said anything about the possibility of a non-white Bond in his lifetime.

    ^This. The tedious criticism during the Craig era was that everything Barbara did was wrong (and that she couldn't control herself by being in love with Craig) while everything Cubby did was right. Gee, no sexism there.

    Not to mention leaving out Michael's role as co-producer (and originator of Brofeld) entirely, which adds ageism to the sexism.

    It's ridiculous.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    Posts: 809
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Cast a white actor and you’ll have a group of folks crying about POC actors getting snubbed. Cast a POC and you’ll get the far right crying about how Bond has been made “woke”.

    The difference is the former group are right, whereas the latter group are wrong.
    mtm wrote: »
    It’s fair enough, I don’t know if I’d go that far but I can appreciate the thinking behind it.

    Can you at least get behind POC actors being preferred?

    Are you actually against them casting a white actor?

    Pretty much.
  • HitchBondUSAHitchBondUSA USA
    edited 2:35am Posts: 257
    Trump's a bond fan? What us presidents liked the bond films? Jfk? Reagan? Clinton?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,721
    That reminds me, if no Bond film is released by 2028, President Trump will hold the distinction of being the only US president to not see a James Bond film released during his presidency. NTTD almost was released during his first term until COVID pushed it back.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited 5:38am Posts: 9,032
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Cast a white actor and you’ll have a group of folks crying about POC actors getting snubbed. Cast a POC and you’ll get the far right crying about how Bond has been made “woke”.

    The difference is the former group are right, whereas the latter group are wrong.
    mtm wrote: »
    It’s fair enough, I don’t know if I’d go that far but I can appreciate the thinking behind it.

    Can you at least get behind POC actors being preferred?

    Are you actually against them casting a white actor?

    Pretty much.

    Have you ever heard of bollywood? Might be more your thing. ;)
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    Posts: 809
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Cast a white actor and you’ll have a group of folks crying about POC actors getting snubbed. Cast a POC and you’ll get the far right crying about how Bond has been made “woke”.

    The difference is the former group are right, whereas the latter group are wrong.
    mtm wrote: »
    It’s fair enough, I don’t know if I’d go that far but I can appreciate the thinking behind it.

    Can you at least get behind POC actors being preferred?

    Are you actually against them casting a white actor?

    Pretty much.

    Have you ever heard of bollywood? Might be more your thing. ;)

    I'm not saying don't cast white people, just not as Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,271
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    It’s fair enough, I don’t know if I’d go that far but I can appreciate the thinking behind it.

    Can you at least get behind POC actors being preferred?

    Maybe, as I say, I can understand why someone would want that. I know in these matters you often have to make a positive decision to do that rather than just leave it open and hope diversity naturally occurs. In this case, for me, Pierre is the most interesting and perhaps most suitable choice and it’s nothing to do with his ethnicity.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 2,121
    echo wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Barbara said she was open to a non-white Bond anyway, so I don't really know what that point is about. Cubby had some pretty left field picks for Bond as well, and we simply don't know what he would have thought of this if he were around today. I don't actually know if he ever said anything about the possibility of a non-white Bond in his lifetime.

    ^This. The tedious criticism during the Craig era was that everything Barbara did was wrong (and that she couldn't control herself by being in love with Craig) while everything Cubby did was right. Gee, no sexism there.

    Not to mention leaving out Michael's role as co-producer (and originator of Brofeld) entirely, which adds ageism to the sexism.

    It's ridiculous.

    They were lucky. Now they'd be called nepobabies.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited 7:02am Posts: 9,032
    mtm wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    It’s fair enough, I don’t know if I’d go that far but I can appreciate the thinking behind it.

    Can you at least get behind POC actors being preferred?

    Maybe, as I say, I can understand why someone would want that. I know in these matters you often have to make a positive decision to do that rather than just leave it open and hope diversity naturally occurs.

    Well, glad we could dispose of the whole "I just want the best guy for the job" pretense.
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