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  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    I know it's technically not a car, but how about The Jetson ONE?
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Love it, but how would it compare to the speed of the Acrojet or the nimbleness of Little Nelly?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    No, AM has been too overexposed in the films of late. I wish the next era reverts Bond back to the Bentley or something different and even a film or two where he doesn't have his own car or drive one at all.
    True, but what about the DB12?
    It's a beautiful car, and don't get me wrong, I love the Astons, but they're all just looking mostly like clones of the one from Casino Royale, and have been for many years now. It's like they peaked with that design and are unable to go any further. Well, to be fair they did with the DB10 and Valhalla which looked radically different, but for some reason they keep going back to that CR style. Personally, if AM returns in the next film I hope it's a motorcycle or a boat.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
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    Maybe I'm being controversial, but I think the DB12 looks hideous.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    Maybe I'm being controversial, but I think the DB12 looks hideous.

    It looks like any recent DB. Not bad, but repetitive.

    Most of all, I think that with a new Bond, the franchise should give him a vehicle that is credible and makes sense for a secret agent...for a change. And none of the DBs and certainly not the Lotus, nor the BMWs (except the sedan in Hamburg, which lets him blend in without much public attention, yet in turn except for the fake German licence plate that they could have easily avoided, and for him parking it in a passenger zone) did that before. If they want him to drive his private car (as in the CR novel), a nostalgic DB5 instead of the novel's Bentley may be ok (but they should explain that in the movie). But if it's MI6 issue in 2023 or later, it better be something different. And no ejection seat, please, we don't do those things any more.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited September 2023 Posts: 1,386
    At this point we're surely on to the next thing for Bond, it wouldn't be a DB12 by the time the movie comes out. But the DB12 doesn't offer a strong direction for the brand to go in, unless they revolutionize their design. Aston cancelled a V-6 mid-engine Vanquish I thought would have been interesting for Bond. Oh well. Unfortunately I'm not too inclined to offer the new Lotus lineup, save the Emira, which will also be old by the time a new film releases.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I think much of the decision will be based on money - if Aston are offering the top price then I imagine that will override anything else. Not every car company will want their image tied to Bond, at least not for the money Aston has been paying I would think.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Aston Martin is also an absolutely perfect brand fit for Bond: even if the two didn't have history it's hard to think of another car company which aligns with him so perfectly.
    Bentley is a bit too blingy and football player-ish; funnily enough Lotus are getting there but still not quite as upmarket as Aston.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    I think much of the decision will be based on money -

    mtm wrote: »
    Bentley is a bit too blingy and football player-ish; funnily enough Lotus are getting there but still not quite as upmarket as Aston.

    Bentley's current CEO has tweeted/X'd in the past about it being cost-prohibitive to be in a Bond movie for the brand, which is surprising considering they typically have stronger cash coffers than Aston does.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah sounds like a bit of an excuse really!

    I'm also unsure how much these firms actually pay to the film: I'm sure they probably pay for the licensed tie-ins they sell etc. but I'd imagine Eon are pretty happy with Aston supplying the production with as many cars as they need.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited September 2023 Posts: 1,386
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah sounds like a bit of an excuse really!

    I'm also unsure how much these firms actually pay to the film: I'm sure they probably pay for the licensed tie-ins they sell etc. but I'd imagine Eon are pretty happy with Aston supplying the production with as many cars as they need.

    I once interviewed Rich Agnew at Land Rover about the Defender allocation, and he said they didn't necessarily _pay_ outright, but they moved planned production (early-release models) up by something like six months to make production on time, which cost them millions, and then they're yeah, basically giving the first 6-8 vehicles off a production line to the film, which are valued in the millions each and typically reserved for quality assurance. That's not to mention the customization the production required, including completely rubber spare wheel replacements so the bike riders wouldn't die if they collided with the Defenders, etc. It's truly an investment to be involved, unless it's just a Ford on a beachway drive for 30 seconds of film haha. One thing I didn't and should've asked is how they balance it with marketing value on the books.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah sounds like a bit of an excuse really!

    I'm also unsure how much these firms actually pay to the film: I'm sure they probably pay for the licensed tie-ins they sell etc. but I'd imagine Eon are pretty happy with Aston supplying the production with as many cars as they need.

    I once interviewed Rich Agnew at Land Rover about the Defender allocation, and he said they didn't necessarily _pay_ outright, but they moved planned production (early-release models) up by something like six months to make production on time, which cost them millions, and then they're yeah, basically giving the first 6-8 vehicles off a production line to the film, which are valued in the millions each and typically reserved for quality assurance. That's not to mention the customization the production required, including completely rubber spare wheel replacements so the bike riders wouldn't die if they collided with the Defenders, etc. It's truly an investment to be involved, unless it's just a Ford on a beachway drive for 30 seconds of film haha. One thing I didn't and should've asked is how they balance it with marketing value on the books.

    That's very interesting, thanks. I thought it was something like that; and I can imagine Aston spent absolutely shedloads on those cars for NTTD- the DB5s were one thing, but even the V8s had to be effectively built from a few old models they bought and totally restored.
    I'm sure it must also work out that a lot of these product placement companies are cross-promoting the movie in their adverts/on their packaging etc., which MGM or whoever aren't paying for out of their budget; so there's something of worth being given to the film there which again isn't a monetary payment as such. So these product deals must be pretty complex.
  • The new, upcoming Tesla Roadster should be the next Bond car.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Dust off the Norton Dominator from Spectre. It's time again for Bond to have a Q-issued bike!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    The new, upcoming Tesla Roadster should be the next Bond car.

    As far as I’m concerned, an electric car, and defitinely a Tesla, is a big no-go for someone like Bond. Might as well give him an Apple smartwatch, a pair of oversized jeans and a t-shirt with Givenchy written on it ostentatiously. It screams nouveau-riche.

  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
    edited December 2023 Posts: 8,640
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    The new, upcoming Tesla Roadster should be the next Bond car.

    As far as I’m concerned, an electric car, and defitinely a Tesla, is a big no-go for someone like Bond. Might as well give him an Apple smartwatch, a pair of oversized jeans and a t-shirt with Givenchy written on it ostentatiously. It screams nouveau-riche.
    By the time the next Bond movie comes out, all non-electrical cars will look like dinosaurs (some do already), and Bond will have to abort hot pursuit of the baddies because he's running out of gas and there's no conventional petrol station around any more. Let him have something electric and sexy and pretend Q branch have developped a tiny battery that provides a range of 3,000 km or so. Ah yes, and he should bring it back in one piece and in pristine condition, for a change. :-)
  • BennyBenny keeping tabs on youAdministrator, Moderator
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Dust off the Norton Dominator from Spectre. It's time again for Bond to have a Q-issued bike!

    I actually quite like this idea. A Bond bike instead of the traditional, Bond car would be a unique change for the series.
    Why not?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Nice, you're on board. Now for optional extras. Machine guns or rockets are a given, I take it? Or maybe an EMP engine immobilizer or similar that targets surrounding vehicles?
  • BennyBenny keeping tabs on youAdministrator, Moderator
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Nice, you're on board. Now for optional extras. Machine guns or rockets are a given, I take it? Or maybe an EMP engine immobilizer or similar that targets surrounding vehicles?

    Well, I don't think it'll need an ejector seat. :))
    Although that would be a cute line from Q if it were to happen.
    Machine guns, rockets...maybe a rear firing gun, or flamethrower?
    I like the EMP idea, would be pretty cool.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Maybe off the Q-gadget tip, and moving into unusual stunt/chase territory:

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    Some good videos out there of Aussie stunt performer Robbie Maddison riding the bike across the water.



    Skis appear to be set up like the Wetbike.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    They did not show how many people it takes to get it out of the water when it capsizes. Looks impressive, but quite idiotic nevertheless.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Nice, you're on board. There's a lot of potential there for a cool and unique chase across land, water and in-between. Perhaps a camera drone capturing part of the action. Bond escapes; the villains end up in the drink - how much hassle it is for them to get their bike out of the water is their problem and adds to their comeuppance.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Very down for Bond on a bike, but they were "tired" of motorcycle chases already back with GoldenEye, given interviews with Corbould, and that's why we got a tank chase instead (and then the bike chase in TND when they were still scavenging for ideas). Plus we got baddies on bikes in NTTD, twice, and Bond on a bike in Skyfall as well, and QoS... Bond is already kind of a bike man. I guess they could certainly lean into it more with the branding and promotion.

    Suddenly Aston Martin is going to announce a bike...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    LucknFate wrote: »

    Suddenly Aston Martin is going to announce a bike...

    I saw one at Goodwood in the Summer; beautiful.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »

    Suddenly Aston Martin is going to announce a bike...

    I saw one at Goodwood in the Summer; beautiful.

    How do you feel about motorcycles clearly being Tom Cruise's wheelhouse/domain and Bond potentially having to counter that? We saw Ethan get away on a bike in 6 and then throw a bike at a guy in 7.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    Media embargo lifted this morning on the new Aston Vantage ,this is the best look over I've seen so far thanks to Harry.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think it looks so much better than the old one.
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    Well, that looks rather good. Can't wait to see it in SF grey with the chromed grill. Can't wait to see Bond drive that. Loved the last one, love the new one. Still better looking than his bigger brothers, IMO. The interior is a killer, finally.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited February 12 Posts: 13,850
    That grille though....

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