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But I'd appreciate some fanservice there :P.
Interesting to see how strongly people are reacting to the death. I'm OK with it.
As soon as they started talking about the garden of death I was thinking "is it on an island near Japan? Yes? Holy crap, they're doing You Only Live Twice."
So I actually like how it ended. Because I can tell myself he's probably not actually dead because of how he came back in the books.
I loved the callbacks to OHMSS. The line "we have all the time in the world" and the use of the music stunned me. The way the Aston Martin in the tunnel faded out like in a gunbarrel was lovely.
And his story goes on as Madeleine tells the girl about him.
Anyway I'm surpringly OK with it. A heroic death saving the world.
And James Bond will return.
Blofeld really does love the cuckoo line.
It also works as a nod to the one in OHMSS, as Lazenby Bond’s image dissipates.
Absolutely guaranteeing a big turnout for the next one then, too. ;)
Although, I'm already liking the payoff after the first viewing. I mean it must be felt on first viewing -- that's your only chance, unspoilt, to have it really work as an emotional experience. Every time after that is intellectual.
I'm seeing it again next week multiple times, but I'm already convinced my opinion is only going to get stronger. I'm also looking forward to really taking in the rest of the film. When I saw it the first time, I was so charged up/anxious to finally be in the moment that even though I loved it all, it flew by so quickly and I know there's things I missed.
For example, still not clear at all on how the farm/factory is supposed to work. Like what are all the hazmat-suited characters even doing in the radioactive water? Considering it's such a central setpiece, my one major criticism is that those elements of Safin's plot needed way way way more clear exposition.
My one big criticism is how undeveloped Safin's motivation was. It was like "the audience knows there needs to be a bond villain." Handwave.
That being said his appearance in the opening sequence was very good and made an impression.
James Bond director Danny Boyle quit the franchise in a row over killing off the spy.
Daniel Craig, who is said to be filming his final 007 movie, and producer Barbara Broccoli are believed to have wanted to Bond to die in a “spectacular finale”, according to sources.
But Oscar-winner Boyle, 61, refused to kill off the secret agent, labelling the idea “ridiculous”.
One insider told the Sun on Sunday: “There were discussions about killing off Bond in dramatic fashion at the end.
“It would be a final hurrah for Daniel, and leave fans hanging.
“It would also leave it open for a twist in the next instalment — either Bond hadn’t died or there could be a Doctor Who-esque regeneration with a new actor.
One thing I noticed is that with most Bond films I have seen in the cinema, there are always a couple of moments when the audience has a laugh or even applauds. There was very little of that this time. The scientist for example, was clearly a character ment to make some laughs a couple of times - but that didn't work with this audience.
In general: there is a lot to like about this film. The action, stunts, locations the way it all comes together on screen: it looks beautiful. The story was interesting. The soundtrack was pretty good. I really enjoyed large parts of the movie.
But unfortunately, I found it to be an overly emotional film. The death of Felix, the death of B(r)ofeld, the separation with Madeline, becoming a father - and ultimately being killed off - blasted from the face of the earth. But only after being shot multiple times and even incurably poisoned resulting in never being able to be near your wife or child again.
For me, they just went too far this time. Especially with him dying. I wasn't shocked by it in the sense: I did not see it coming. I knew they might do it. But I felt disappointed by the fact that they really went this way.
Looking back I think SF was the turning point for Craig's Bond. It was a hugely successful film and a film that was very personal and emotional for Bond. With things we didn't see before. M dying, Bond crying, his past being explored (parents dying, Blofeld) etc. And I liked SF, but I preferred the tone of CR.
Then with SP, it was again personal and emotional. And instead of dialling it back a bit, they doubled down on it.
I desperately want to see a Bond movie with a less emotional/personal story. Just a exciting mission. Bond being cool, not being mocked or questioned about his relevance.
In conclusion: there are some great scenes. The film looks great. Craig's acting is very good, although sometimes a bit out of character. But they went too far with killing him off. I have yet to plan my second viewing, think I might just wait a little longer with it this time.
I guessed they'd kill of Craig's Bond because of some of the things said a few years ago, and it didn't bother me as much as I thought it might, but it did mean that the ending was predictable and lacked any emotional weight for me. Marvel comics have sadly been going down this route for decades now, killing-off a character with a huge amount of fan-fare, only to resurrect them a few years later for a similar publicity (and sales) boost. It becomes a cycle with ever diminishing returns.
It also worries me that part of this seems to be that Eon no longer have faith in their ability to make a Bond movie that rests on its ability to entertain and enthral without the whole "...and NOTHING will ever be the same for Bond again!" gimmick. FRWL, Goldfinger, TSWLM... these films concentrated on making Bond on a mission exciting in itself, built great villains for Bond to fight, created iconic sequences etc without resorting to the shock revelation crutch. They've got the talent, but they seem to me to have lost confidence in the old formula.
This sounds like I hated NTTD - I didn't, I enjoyed it until they upped the melodrama somewhere over the halfway mark, and even then I didn't hate it. There are great action sequences, and the cinematography is superb, but I just didn't find the plotting worked for me. I can see it worked for a lot of people, though. Just wanted to post my thoughts.
Well, the film did borrow from the novel YOLT, and we know how that ended and how TMWTGG started.
Well, in retrospect: I’m with Boyle on this one.
Now I'll always wonder what Boyle's Bond 25 could've been... I feel some resentment at Broccoli for rejecting Boyle and going with what we've now gotten.
Spot on post.
Can't say Henderson in YOLT ever struck me as hip and modern.
Thanks, I was wondering if it was from a Bond novel because M doesn't mention the author, unlike Dench in Skyfall who does mention Tennyson's name.
Am I the only one who thinks that line is just as cheesy as ones like "Christmas comes once a year" in the Brosnan era? I cringed.
I looked at the kid and realised her next would almost certainly be "I'd rather you just gave me my phone to play with."
But we all know what long car rides with your parents can be like.
I didn't find it cheesy but I didn't think it worked as a line though. Maybe if it was years later and Mathilde had been older and not remembered him. "Let me tell you about that man..." would have made more sense.
Bless Bond for stopping to pick up her 'Doo Doo' despite being in the thick of things.
I liked the line even if it sounds familiar from another movie. Bond has become legend/myth essentially. He lives on through the people he met and their stories. (Of course he also
It’s a direct reference to Moneypenny using the same quote in YOLT, the book !