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NTTD - Official Trailer Discussion Thread - First trailer OUT NOW (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited September 2020 Posts: 13,012
    Evil Tiger through the time of death!

    [Pardon my enthusiasm here.]
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,267
    Zekidk wrote: »
    "Meet Safin"

    So excited to see more of Safin! He is looking like an amazing new Bond villain.
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    A translation of the captions in the Thai Craig era trailer
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,950
    I must say, I know it's not, but the bit of music from 40 secs onwards really sounds like Zimmer: it's actually rather Inception-y.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,034
    mtm wrote: »
    I must say, I know it's not, but the bit of music from 40 secs onwards really sounds like Zimmer: it's actually rather Inception-y.

    Yes, it is the first time that I've had almost no doubt about it. That really does sound like him.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,950
    I guess it could be the trailer music people deciding to have some fun with it and really leaning on the Zimmer sounds, but... yeah, it's very him isn't it?
    But then it intersects with the rest of the trailer music which sounds like all of the other Craig trailers we've ever had, really. Maybe they lifted a little bit of his score just in the middle? I don't know what's going on, it's a puzzler.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,018
    Zekidk wrote: »
    "Meet Safin"

    Safin: "I am a man willing to kill the person you love most"

    Swann: "I’ve already lost everybody I ever loved."
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,469
    Contraband wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    "Meet Safin"

    Safin: "I am a man willing to kill the person you love most"

    Swann: "I’ve already lost everybody I ever loved."

    Bond: "The bitch is dead."

    *roll credits*
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,554
    Contraband wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    "Meet Safin"

    Safin: "I am a man willing to kill the person you love most"

    Swann: "I’ve already lost everybody I ever loved."

    Might this suggest that this scene occurs before Bond and Madeleine see each other at MI6?
  • Jan1985Jan1985
    Posts: 625
    I think Safin refers to something, that we, who saw the call sheets, that were sold on ebay earlier this year, know what it is.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,018
    Jan1985 wrote: »
    I think Safin refers to something, that we, who saw the call sheets, that were sold on ebay earlier this year, know what it is.

    I think you're right
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Contraband wrote: »
    Jan1985 wrote: »
    I think Safin refers to something, that we, who saw the call sheets, that were sold on ebay earlier this year, know what it is.

    I think you're right

    Yep.
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    Holy flip. While that shorter official Craig era trailer was more of a speed recap...this is :O
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    Posts: 1,329
    antovolk wrote: »
    Holy flip. While that shorter official Craig era trailer was more of a speed recap...this is :O

    Around 3:37 what is thattt?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2020 Posts: 14,950
    antovolk wrote: »
    Holy flip. While that shorter official Craig era trailer was more of a speed recap...this is :O

    Yeah that's... weird. Some local PR team going a bit off on one there- I think if I were the average punter I wouldn't get through that as I've seen Casino Royale before! :)
    Also the music gets quite tiring after a while! :D

    Quite odd to include that gunbarrel- is that from an old CR trailer? And there's a shot in the Spectre sequence that wasn't in the film :)
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited September 2020 Posts: 3,164
    Obviously both of these pieces haven't yet been launched (will they at all?) for the UK/Europe and the U.S., on the English language 007 channels...all depends on how they'd really position them. That shorter one is meant to be more of a 'James Bond explained' type thing.

    And yes, quite a lot of the footage in this is taken from the older trailers - hence the gunbarrel from the CR teaser.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,034
    They noticeably shortchange QoS in all these videos - it's almost amusing.

    But importantly, yes.....at 3:37 it looks like a shot we haven't seen before. Bond going over the edge of a balcony with two goons. By the looks of the attire, lighting, and the fact that there are bodies on the floor in the background, it is likely part of the SPECTRE party sequence.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2020 Posts: 14,950
    antovolk wrote: »
    Obviously both of these pieces haven't yet been launched (will they at all?) for the UK/Europe and the U.S., on the English language 007 channels...all depends on how they'd really position them.

    Yeah I don't think they will be launched UK/US just because they're weird :)

    I can imagine maybe a trailer with a few brief clips of his previous films, but not a mad, rather clumsy recap one like this. As you say, they've basically not done much more than just stick a load of old trailers together.
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    But importantly, yes.....at 3:37 it looks like a shot we haven't seen before. Bond going over the edge of a balcony with two goons. By the looks of the attire, lighting, and the fact that there are bodies on the floor in the background, it is likely part of the SPECTRE party sequence.

    I didn't realise we hadn't seen that. I think I remember it appearing from another angle in another trailer- it's when he lands on the bar isn't it?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,034
    mtm wrote: »
    I didn't realise we hadn't seen that. I think I remember it appearing from another angle in another trailer- it's when he lands on the bar isn't it?

    It could have appeared in one of the earlier BTS videos, for sure. I don't remember it in a trailer - but we did get a shot of Waldo doing a high dive in the recent trailer. Perhaps that is happening simultaneously to Bond dragging these two henchmen over.
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited September 2020 Posts: 3,164
    In all honesty, I'm just loving the idea that we are even getting these sorts of recap trailers officially, because that finale angle that frankly I've been hoping they go for from the start!

    I wouldn't be surprised if these get polished a bit more for the US/UK etc English versions. The 'What is Bond' shorter piece itself is pretty slickly done already and probably what is intended for over here. But international trailers being a bit 'clumsier' is in all honesty no surprise.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2020 Posts: 14,950
    antovolk wrote: »
    In all honesty, I'm just loving the idea that we are even getting these sorts of recap trailers officially, because that finale angle that frankly I've been hoping they go for from the start!

    True, but also I'm not sure it's a great idea to show the previous films in a trailer because it perhaps suggests that you need to have seen them all (and remember them) to see the new one, and I think these big films should aim to be pretty accessible in general.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2020 Posts: 4,343
    Waiting impatiently for the English one! Hopefully with more QoS.
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited September 2020 Posts: 3,164
    mtm wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    In all honesty, I'm just loving the idea that we are even getting these sorts of recap trailers officially, because that finale angle that frankly I've been hoping they go for from the start!

    True, but also I'm not sure it's a great idea to show the previous films in a trailer because it perhaps suggests that you need to have seen them all (and remember them) to see the new one, and I think these big films should aim to be pretty accessible in general.

    Depends on the franchise - and how much the film itself does need that understanding of the previous films! When you have the film that's the end of a story, the 'finale hook' is the first thing that's gone for... Star Wars, Avengers, Harry Potter, Nolan's Batman trilogy, hell even Tenet went for this with Nolan's previous work. Obviously this serialisation is a new thing for Bond, unlike this... (though the YOLT trailers and posters did call out and include footage of the preceding films!)

  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,677
    matt_u wrote: »
    Waiting impatiently for the English one! Hopefully with more QoS.

    It's such a beautiful film, and its shortcomings surely aren't there to be see in trailer mode, so I wish they'd use it more.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,512
    I hope they do more of these character trailers, with different characters. It's a great to keep the promotion of the film going and not reveal too much or any new footage, plus it gives each character their own spotlight which is nice. The one with Cary Fukunaga was brilliant, I loved all the behind the scenes shots. It really gave me even more confidence in him and got me hyped for the movie.

    A small think I noticed, anyone else think the way Bond says "no" (right before the line, "not as long as there are people like you in the world") , was similar to the way he said it to Silva, when Silva says, "all she does is lie to you". It's like Bond is almost a little bit shook up or unnerved by Safin
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Bond falling from that angle is brand new footage (to us). Here is that seqeunce pieced together.

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  • UnivexUnivex
    edited September 2020 Posts: 6,677
    Well done on the sequencing, @Contraband. That fall is very reminiscent of the one from QOS, isn't it?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,034
    Contraband wrote: »
    Bond falling from that angle is brand new footage (to us). Here is that seqeunce pieced together.

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    XbYqwF5.jpg
    NCSEQ2d.jpg
    Jd2skZg.jpg

    Excellent. Thanks @Contraband!
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,512
    Amazing as always thank you @Contraband
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2020 Posts: 14,950
    antovolk wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    In all honesty, I'm just loving the idea that we are even getting these sorts of recap trailers officially, because that finale angle that frankly I've been hoping they go for from the start!

    True, but also I'm not sure it's a great idea to show the previous films in a trailer because it perhaps suggests that you need to have seen them all (and remember them) to see the new one, and I think these big films should aim to be pretty accessible in general.

    Depends on the franchise - and how much the film itself does need that understanding of the previous films! When you have the film that's the end of a story, the 'finale hook' is the first thing that's gone for... Star Wars, Avengers, Harry Potter, Nolan's Batman trilogy, hell even Tenet went for this with Nolan's previous work.

    Yes I'd forgotten about that Tenet one; I found that quite odd- like a fan trailer on YouTube! :)
    You're right about the serialised films but I'm not sure it's a great idea for Bond- I suspect that if folks actually went in and watched this without remembering Spectre they'd probably be able to follow it very easily. Not the end of the world though.
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