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Any example of said witch hunt and unsubstantiated claims from the unbelievers' side here? I have been participating in this thread since it's beginning and the unsubstantiated claims are from the theists. And they are no small claims!
You'll be drunk tomorrow then. It could help the theists.
Yes, and their views will still be ugly.
If I pray that would be temporary insanity.
Apocryphal quote from James Joyce to an old lady who had learned of his apostasy from Catholicism and had congratulated him on becoming Protestant: "I have lost my faith, not my reason".
So my claims are substantiated. What's the problem then? Why are you so outraged when people (rightly) peg you as a roaring sphincter?
They are unsubstantiated that's the problem. Especially if they concern morals.
Yeah, he really took the moral high ground when he made that crack about my mom.
Am I surprised, though, based on his previous posts? Nope.
@TheWizardOfIce did not claim moral high ground. Not in that instance anyway.
But the lack of discussion is not our fault. I've lost count of the number of times we have asked the religious to explain say baby cancer and we are just met with a wall of silence. They don't sound like people who have all the answers through the revelation of Jesus Christ our Lord to me
You're the one who came on here and started throwing personal insults about so don't bleat when you get a bit back.
But well done. Another two posts devoid of anything that could be loosely termed as 'content' to add to your ever increasing count.
I feel sorry for the believers if they've got you in their corner. I think @Dragonpol and @Risico007 were doing a far better job of defending their point of view before you turned up to be honest. And given they were doing a pretty appealing job that just goes to show the value of your vaccuous posts which are a criminal waste of a few MB of server space.
Oh yes, how dare I waste precious space in this thread. Criminal.
Carry on, oh Toxic One.
We're in agreement there, probably for different reasons.
Imaginary? You need to read some history. Even during the XXIst century, humanity have had to endure harassment, bullying, censorship, when it's not flat out torture and murder from religious people. The century practically started with 9/11! But even not counting the most extreme cases... There's still a blasphemy law in Canada for crying out loud! And there was one in the UK until recently.
That gag was ironic pal. I was satirising your particularly underwhelming brand of alleged 'humour'. But clearly even that was so sophisticated that it still passed several thousand feet over your head.
But anyway this pointless discussion is derailing the thread and boring everyone here rigid and although you are both equally easy targets shooting God down is way more fun so let's call that the end of it.
The muslim god Muhammed blashemed for you right here.
End the thread? Sure.
Moderator?
I do agree with you, which is why I realized the comment could be misconstrued and removed it.
Also, I'm going to apologize for all of the insults from my side, which have indeed contributed to turning this thread into the "snake pit" someone (possibly Dragonpol) predicted it would turn out to be several pages ago.
I don't often aim to derail conversations, and I'm usually good about interacting with the other members here. It's best if I keep it that way by bowing out of this thread.
Peace.
Teresa happy to talk tough to a nuclear power who could obliterate us at a stroke but when it comes to women's rights totally bottles it if it means taking on the evangelical Christian DUP that she was forced to make a grubby deal with to keep her clinging to power.
In essence Theresa May is a petty church lady. No wonder she asked the DUP for support and they happily accepted. We all got DUPed.
"You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts."
Yesterday, some 3 years after Malik's graduation from our school, I saw him again while waiting for my train ride home. A lot's happened since secondary school, it seems:
- Refusing to follow his father's demands, Malik, less than a week after graduation, decided instead to study theoretical physics. His parents were at first very dismayed but eventually agreed with his choice.
- He's been doing very well in college since, earning very good grades.
- He has furthermore totally dropped religion, which, he said, did cause some friction at home. Fortunately, however, his parents and siblings stopped making a fuss about that very quickly, seeing how little their efforts were paying off. He's still welcome in their house and at their dinner table, of course, but part of the "agreement" is that he shan't fight their conviction or ridicule their tradition, something Malik is fine with.
- He has found himself a lovely girlfriend in college and aspires to become either a member of a theoretical physics research group or possibly a physics teacher.
Malik furthermore told me that a lot of what's happened is mostly thanks to me. I'm the one who warmed him up to science, he said; the books in the library (some of which he eventually smuggled into the house) fascinated him very much and gave him a purpose. First, he read them out of respect for me. (A funny notion, but kind of cute.) Then, they legitimately began to capture him. Very soon, he was hooked. But more importantly, our conversations about the universe, about our modest presence in it, about so many things, in fact, had instilled in him, first, a serious doubt about the fundamental notions of his family's religion; then, anger and fear, that religion is a lie, an intellectual blindfold (his words), an excuse to keep so many of his peers locked up in darkness. He had talked about this with an Imam at one point, something he had never told me before, and that man had told him in return that he should simply follow his own path, even if it meant shaking himself loose from gods and tradition. He would find greatness by following a path he deemed the right one. And so he did. He cannot fully condemn Islam, because his anscestry is a part of it, but he's now a fullblood atheist. I wanted to talk some more about that, but alas, the train ride for once didn't last long enough for me.
A firm handshake when I got off the train consolidated Malik's gratitude. I hope to hear from him again. I feel proud and, above all else, successful as a teacher.
Interesting this. SH was an atheist. But the guys at the Abbey are happy to take his ashes and organise a service of thanksgiving (happy to overlook he thought religion was plain wrong and that surely, he is now in hell?). Perhaps it's just me and Im sure his friends/relatives were consulted but, this man spent his life helping to increase our knowledge and he embraced the scientific process etc. Of all the places the celebrate his life, Westminster Abbey seems a strange choice and I wonder what he would have thought. The next mission to Mars would seem more applicable for the great man.
Pakistan.