Would you be interested in seeing a digitally rejuvenated Sean Connery play Bond one more time?

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Its good that its there to help out if an actor dies towards the end,as in Gladiator,with Oliver Reed dying,that helps the film,but otherwise no way.

    That's how I feel about the issue, too. Let's just enjoy Sean Connery in the Bond films he starred in and be content enough to leave it at that! Anything else would be sacrilege in my book.
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    A virtual Connery ? ....,.....no.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'd much rather a sequel to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: THE GAME, personally.

    I have far more interest in being virtual Connery than I do watching him.
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    Digitally creating an entire performance would just feel wrong imo. Creepy and weird. I hope that never happens. The deaging mocap tech that they're using for the Irishman is interesting though. In theory, if the tech gets advanced enough, we could see older actors come back to do one more film years later while looking the same age they did when they left the role. They shouldn't become reliant on it, as Bond should keep moving forward. But if they're ever between actors and at a loss for what to do it could be nice to use that tech to give one of the old actors one more film. Imagine Dalton finally getting his third or Brosnan finally getting a better sendoff than DAD, with both of them looking the same age they did in their last films. That could be cool.

    But Connery is much too old even for that to work and I think an entirely digital version (or mocap to pass a different actor off as him) would just be wrong. Don't think the man himself would agree to it anyway and it'd just be perverse to do it after he eventually passes away.

    Paul Walker was a different situation. They were just finishing what he'd already started filming and used his brother's as the doubles. That was a bit more respectful and understandable imo. And they didn't use that tech to keep him in the films past 7, because that would've been messed up. So yeah, I'd say no to digital resurrection. Rejuvination/deaging would be okay, as long as it's still the original actors playing them underneath the mocap.
    I'd much rather a sequel to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: THE GAME, personally.

    I have far more interest in being virtual Connery than I do watching him.

    Honestly as nice as an idea as it was, he was too old even for that. Just felt strange hearing geriatric Connery's voice coming out of 60s Connery's mouth.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    NO!!!!!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'd much rather a sequel to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: THE GAME, personally.

    I have far more interest in being virtual Connery than I do watching him.

    Honestly as nice as an idea as it was, he was too old even for that. Just felt strange hearing geriatric Connery's voice coming out of 60s Connery's mouth.

    Plenty of talented voice actors these days. Though admittedly, this is just me clamouring for another decent Bond game more than anything.
  • edited October 2019 Posts: 12,828
    I'd much rather a sequel to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: THE GAME, personally.

    I have far more interest in being virtual Connery than I do watching him.

    Honestly as nice as an idea as it was, he was too old even for that. Just felt strange hearing geriatric Connery's voice coming out of 60s Connery's mouth.

    Plenty of talented voice actors these days. Though admittedly, this is just me clamouring for another decent Bond game more than anything.

    Yeah, I think that's the road they should have gone down in the first place. Because the game itself wasn't bad at all, the gameplay was good. The problem was they decided to adapt/butcher FRWL (none of the 60s Bond films have enough action for a video game imo), and Connery sounded too old.

    A 60s set Bond game with an original story and a soundalike instead of the man himself doing the voice would have been great. It was a nice idea, and it's amazing that they managed to get Connery to agree to it. But it just didn't work.

    And me too mate, but sadly EON just don't seem to care about the video game licence at all anymore. Which is weird because they must remember how successful the Brosnan era games were and know that they're sitting on a gold mine there if they gave it to a company who'd do it justice. I've given up hope for a decent new Bond game. I think the best we can hope for is an original IP taking inspiration from Bond at some point, like that cancelled Rockstar game.
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    Things should remain as they are for me.
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    Connery in a VR adventure would awesome! Or any Bond actor for that matter. VR adventures are amazing!
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Creating short features, live action or otherwise, would be a nice treat between films.

    Present stories not possible for a full length feature.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I'd much rather a sequel to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: THE GAME, personally.

    I have far more interest in being virtual Connery than I do watching him.

    Honestly as nice as an idea as it was, he was too old even for that. Just felt strange hearing geriatric Connery's voice coming out of 60s Connery's mouth.

    Plenty of talented voice actors these days. Though admittedly, this is just me clamouring for another decent Bond game more than anything.

    At least with something like the game Garry's Mod, the adventures are limitless. ;)
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  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    I hate green screens, CGI and I would definitely hate a virtual Bond actor. It is already a shame that they put Craigs face on the stuntmen.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I'd much rather a sequel to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: THE GAME, personally.

    I have far more interest in being virtual Connery than I do watching him.

    Honestly as nice as an idea as it was, he was too old even for that. Just felt strange hearing geriatric Connery's voice coming out of 60s Connery's mouth.

    Plenty of talented voice actors these days. Though admittedly, this is just me clamouring for another decent Bond game more than anything.

    Yeah, I think that's the road they should have gone down in the first place. Because the game itself wasn't bad at all, the gameplay was good. The problem was they decided to adapt/butcher FRWL (none of the 60s Bond films have enough action for a video game imo), and Connery sounded too old.

    That didn't stop them from adapting GE into a shoot em up.

    And me too mate, but sadly EON just don't seem to care about the video game licence at all anymore. Which is weird because they must remember how successful the Brosnan era games were and know that they're sitting on a gold mine there if they gave it to a company who'd do it justice. I've given up hope for a decent new Bond game. I think the best we can hope for is an original IP taking inspiration from Bond at some point, like that cancelled Rockstar game.

    GE was a good game, but that should have been a one-off rather than setting the standard. That so many developers tried to emulate N64 game by going the first person shooter route or even just doing heavy action in general was the wrong direction for Bond games to take. Truthfully, they should have looked much closer to something like the METAL GEAR SOLID series as an inspiration where the objective is to infiltrate like a spy, rather than engage in a shoot em ups. SNAKE EATER is one my favorite games because of that, and with that being heavily inspired by 60s Bond films I pretty much see it as the best Bond game that isn't even a Bond game. I suspect the FRWL game was trying to tap into that, but it looked like another shoot em up via third person perspective.

    The fact that there's no video game license doesn't really upset me anymore. I never found any game past GE to be worth revisiting. When the time comes for Bond to return to gaming, someone needs to rethink what a Bond game could be, rather than look back to the N64 game, but I suspect that's too much to ask for.
  • I'd much rather a sequel to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: THE GAME, personally.

    I have far more interest in being virtual Connery than I do watching him.

    Honestly as nice as an idea as it was, he was too old even for that. Just felt strange hearing geriatric Connery's voice coming out of 60s Connery's mouth.

    Plenty of talented voice actors these days. Though admittedly, this is just me clamouring for another decent Bond game more than anything.

    Yeah, I think that's the road they should have gone down in the first place. Because the game itself wasn't bad at all, the gameplay was good. The problem was they decided to adapt/butcher FRWL (none of the 60s Bond films have enough action for a video game imo), and Connery sounded too old.

    That didn't stop them from adapting GE into a shoot em up.

    And me too mate, but sadly EON just don't seem to care about the video game licence at all anymore. Which is weird because they must remember how successful the Brosnan era games were and know that they're sitting on a gold mine there if they gave it to a company who'd do it justice. I've given up hope for a decent new Bond game. I think the best we can hope for is an original IP taking inspiration from Bond at some point, like that cancelled Rockstar game.

    GE was a good game, but that should have been a one-off rather than setting the standard. That so many developers tried to emulate N64 game by going the first person shooter route or even just doing heavy action in general was the wrong direction for Bond games to take. Truthfully, they should have looked much closer to something like the METAL GEAR SOLID series as an inspiration where the objective is to infiltrate like a spy, rather than engage in a shoot em ups. SNAKE EATER is one my favorite games because of that, and with that being heavily inspired by 60s Bond films I pretty much see it as the best Bond game that isn't even a Bond game. I suspect the FRWL game was trying to tap into that, but it looked like another shoot em up via third person perspective.

    The fact that there's no video game license doesn't really upset me anymore. I never found any game past GE to be worth revisiting. When the time comes for Bond to return to gaming, someone needs to rethink what a Bond game could be, rather than look back to the N64 game, but I suspect that's too much to ask for.

    GE works as a shoot em up though to be fair. Obviously they still had to take some liberties, which is one of the reasons why I think original stories work better for the games (the other reason would be it's just more exciting, I want to feel like I'm in a new Bond adventure, not one I've already seen). But they didn't butcher it as bad as they did FRWL.

    I agree that there's more to Bond than action but disagree that it should be stealth focused. The ideal Bond game should have a bit of everything imo. Levels you can sneak through or shoot through with loads of different routes/options, dialogue options (Bond should be able to charm and talk his way through certain scenarios), driving, optional gambling minigames in a casino. A bit of everything.

    I think you can do this in first or third person too, it doesn't really matter. Nightfire is an FPS and no other game has come anywhere near as close to capturing the full Bond experience as that game does. Almost everything I was pining for in the paragraph above is there and it wraps that up in a good story that actually feels like a Bond film in a way that something like Everything or Nothing (decent game but the story is very sci-fi, contrived and video gamey) doesn't. It's by far the best Bond game ever imo and it's a really underrated game in general.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Hadn't finished NIGHTFIRE, to be fair.
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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited November 2019 Posts: 22,769
    DoctorNo wrote: »

    I read about that earlier, bringing actors back through cgi seems to be gaining traction as the deep fake technology improves.

    Jane Seymour on Friend Christopher Reeve Being a CGI Character Someday
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    I hate the idea, but then I hate a lot of things about the modern movie world and yet somehow the world carries on regardless, ignoring my opinion. It’s probably inevitable, given enough time. Five years from now we’ll have free apps on our phones that can digitally insert perfect digital reconstructions of any actor we want into any film we want
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Now we have one with a (dubbed) voice.

  • RC7RC7
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    DoctorNo wrote: »

    It begins.

    All I can hear is Ian Malcolm...
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    RC7 wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »

    It begins.

    All I can hear is Ian Malcolm...

    +1
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    A CGI Connery Bond? Fine by me...

    ... as long as it's in a CGI animated Bond film. Otherwise, no.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Wake me up when they start CGI-ing Bob Mitchum into new Movies. B-) I'd like to see Mitchum in a new Marlowe film, and a Mitchum version of Taken (2008) wouldn't go amis either.
  • edited November 2019 Posts: 6,644
    What if, through the miracle of technology, a perfect copy of Connery's mind was made, and then placed on a new body, engineered to be identical to that of the original Connery? Would you be interested in seeing that neo-Connery play Bond? Would that be more blasphemous or less blasphemous than recreating Connery through CGI for a film? And would it be blasphemous to overall recreate Connery as a human being without his permission?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    What if, through the miracle of technology, a perfect copy of Connery's mind was made, and then placed on a new body, engineered to be identical to that of the original Connery? Would you be interested in seeing that neo-Connery play Bond? Would that be more blasphemous or less blasphemous than recreating Connery through CGI? And would it be blasphemous to recreate Connery as a human being without his permission?

    To be settled in 200 years. ;-)
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited November 2019 Posts: 22,769
    Deepfake Roundtable

    This is freaky
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  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Digitally rejuvenated Connery?

  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Blofeld in it.

  • edited November 2019 Posts: 12,828
    The thing is Connery is too old even for digital rejuvination/deaging. And using CGI to create an entire performance like Star Wars have done is just perverse imo. Thank god for EON. If Disney or someone had Bond we'd definitely get another Connery film in 10 or 20 years time.

    Digital de-aging is a whole different thing though and that is interesting. Connery is too old even for that but imagine getting a third Dalton film or a fifth Brosnan one with them looking the same age they did when they left. If they end up stuck for candidates to replace Craig I'd love them to give that a go. I guess Dalton wouldn't have the mass appeal to make the budget worth it sadly but Brosnan could I reckon. I'd much rather another film with Pierce than Aiden Turner or someone.
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