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I kinda got the same thing earlier this AM. It seems to me that at various times the most actively pro-Trump voices on this thread, @bondjames, @PanchitoPistoles, and @Mendacious4Lyfe, have admitted that they're not actually eligible to vote in American elections.
You know how many times I posted in the Brexit thread? None. Zero, zilch, nada. I figured, if I can't vote on this thing any opinion I might form would be meaningless. So I never bothered to formulate on opinion on that topic.
While I'd hate to see this thread closed, as it is an important topic worth discussing, and I've appreciated the input from @Dalton, @chrisisall, @TripAces, @4EverBonded, and many others -- can we try to limit it to input that's actually, y'know, MEANINGFUL?
I hope you aren't suggesting that those who are 'not specifically anti-Trump' are trying to get a rise out of those who are 'pro-Clinton'? If so that would be strange logic. I was as much for Bernie's success on the left as I was for Trump's on the right and said so from the beginning. I find it rather strange that you singled me out. I am not driven as much by the social issues as I am by the economic and foreign policy ones.
This is not a straight Republican vs. Democrat, or Right vs. Left election. Trump's views on some items (including Defense and Trade) are much less in line with traditional Republican orthodoxy than normal and that is why he does not have conservative buy-in yet (although he does have the buy-in of the religious right).
Regarding this thread: there are folks from several locations here, and I don't believe @chrisisall originally intended for this discussion to be censored in any way shape or form, for it to be only for those with a certain political ideology or viewpoint, or for it to be used to label forum members one way or another. If I'm wrong on that, please let me know @chrisisall and I will gladly exit this thread.
The US elections impact everyone everywhere ultimately, and most certainly those who are English speaking. So everyone's views should be welcome in my view and heard just as loudly as anyone else. Anything less is, dare I say it, as un-American as a religious test for immigration.
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Thanks for giving us some clarity in your decision making process with regard to voting. And I do understand you a bit better now with regard to the issues and policies. It is absolutely true that Trump is certainly more protectionistic regarding defense and trade. Actually on those issues he is a protectionist. So Ia gree with you.
It is interesting to see however how the UK, led by Conservatives, is now searching for a new free trade agreement 'Norwegian style', when that is actually exactly the same as current EU-free trade. And that in essence is very much the opposite of what Donald Trump stands for.
Is it right now to assume, since you have two apartments and since you work in both Toronto and New York, that you are....very much in favor of free trade deals? You also say that you are very much driven by economic and foreign issues, which is understandable since you work in a more global environment. But in what way?
Anyway, for all forummembers, please vote in this topic I just created :-):
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/16439/the-big-us-elections-poll-voting-closes-november-7th-6-00-pm-gmt#latest
The result of the Brexit referendum will hardly have any effect on the lives of non-British people. It will affect pretty much all nations who the next president of the most powerful country on Earth will be.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/27/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-hack-hillary-clinton/index.html
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and even VP nominee Mike Pence need to clean up Trump's huge mess again. Absolutely irresponsible gaffe from the Trump campaign:
Really depends. I think.....this could also lead to a 'radical' balance in the polls, in which neither candidates profit from it.
Absolutely! Bullshit for president ;-).
"The Democrats just fell for Trump's Russian email-hack bait"
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/the-democrats-just-fell-for-trumps-russian-email-hack-bait-commentary.html
Not so soon. Also here there are two sides of the coin.
Whereas Hillary has the media do it for her.
Sjee, you really have a sense for the dramatic :-). My question for you.....Do you think Donald can actually.....make mistakes? Or is he your God. Like many other rulers in our history :-).
Anyway, curious what you would vote now:
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/16439/the-big-us-elections-poll-voting-closes-november-7th-6-00-pm-gmt#latest
I won't go into all the details here, but overall I am in favour of less foreign entanglements, less wars, and a reform of global macro foreign policy and financial bureaucracies and institutions (including the World Bank and IMF). I would prefer the wealthy Middle Eastern countries to step up (militarily and financially) to dismantle the ISIL threat, and I also would prefer if these Kingdoms would do more to take in refugees from Syria and other war torn zones. I am in favour of the Iran Nuclear deal (and believe it is an essential counter balance to Saudi influence & meddling in the region). I am in favour of Assad staying in power for the time being and do not advocate for his forceful overthrow as there is no viable and sustainable plan to succeed him. Fawaz Gerges from my alma mater and an expert on the area, suggested 5 years ago on Fareed Zakaria GPS that Assad was entrenched and would be very difficult to overthrow, as he had support from a large portion of the Syrian population. He was correct. The administration (who called for his overthrow) was wrong. I believe we would have had a worse catastrophe had Obama (with a little face saving help from Putin & the British parliament) not called off that 'red line' MIC war fiasco in the making. I believe that supporting the overthrow of the Ukranian govt. a few years back was the wrong move, and that Russia's annexation of Crimea was a predictable national security counter move that anyone who was able to look a few steps ahead on a chess board could have forseen.
I believe that the 'foreign policy establishment' in the US, including the 'think thanks' are, for the most part, instruments of neo-Conservative ideology and bought/paid for war mongers, who are leading the US astray, bankrupting it, and weakening it at the expense of foreign powers. I believe this infiltration impacts both parties and is actually more of an infestation - an internal national security threat.
Economically, I favour higher income taxes (a more regressive tax system) on the wealthy, lower corporate taxes, less corporate inversions, corporate tax reform, an end to tax haven loopholes, and a temporarily higher mimimum wage (how high I don't know). I believe Glass Steagall must be reinstated.
My views on Trump are still in flux. I agree with him on some items and am willing to sacrifice my views on others, if he comes up with a more clarified position on the economy and foreign policy. So I'm willing to give up on some items if I see a viable plan from him. He has the benefit of the doubt from me as an outsider/disrupter and a man with 'b@!!$' who has shown to date that he isn't afraid to speak truth to power or be controversial on matters of consequence. Quite frankly, I think he should be careful because his life is probably at risk on account of some of the changes he's advocating.
My views on Clinton however are mixed and much closer to negative. I am ashamed that she chose to support the Iraq War, and that she led the US into Libya without a viable plan (which resulted, indirectly in Sep 11,2012). I believe she lacks judgement on foreign policy matters of consequence, and therefore will be led astray by those same advisers who I think have created so many problems for the country over the years. I don't believe she will do what she says she will do, and I don't believe she will actually be able to, given her benefactors and who she owes (here and abroad). She hasn't been able to take a firm position on anything of consequence in this campaign (so much so that her opponent is defining the issues rather than her) and that is why, despite the historic nature of her candidacy, I cannot support her as of now.
Ultimately a Trump presidency would probably be worse for me personally, but if I ultimately advocate for him, it will be because, on balance, I believe he will be able to make beneficial changes for the country's workers and foreign policy. So he will have to improve, clarify his positions as he is doing more of now, and put more meat on the bone.
I'm not going to debate this with you. They are my high level views as of this moment, and I am going to watch the rest of the campaign with interest to see whether they change. I avoid the personality side shows that the media favours.
Trump has not held any political office. His companies have been bankrupt several times, his university is claimed to be a fraud and is going through the courts, he's been accused of rape (!), he's insulted women, he's obsessed with Hillary Clinton and blames her for all the problems with the US when it was TWO REPUBLICAN LEADERS - Bush Snr and Bush Jnr - that were in power during both Gulf wars. Obama inherited the consequences of those wars,9/11, and the rise in terrorist groups, he and H Clinton didn't create 'em! The neo-right caused the problems, not the neo-left.
But my main point is how weak people are to think money - be it made through fair means or foul - elevates someone, makes them deserving of becoming US President. It's not the quality of their character, it's the quality of their bank balance and I think that is desperately sad. I couldn't care how rich Trump (or H Clinton) are, they both seem totally undeserving of their nominations and I feel the US is morally bankrupt. Heck, I'm sure Michael 'I hate capitalism but I'm stickin' rich from it' Moore could make a good docu-film about the absurd US General Election of 2016.
It's a cliché but it has the sting of truth it it - sometimes in life we get what we deserve... and I feel the US public is getting what they deserve with Trump and H Clinton.
My country is filled with people lacking in critical thinking skills.
By design...
And I'll use a quote from CR "I think I will call you on this/".
Don't believe he attended LSE, has 2 condos and even works. His knowledge of U.S. politics is grade school for someone who claims to live in NYC for 5 years. What kind of substantial job allows so much time during the day and to regurgitate 'War and Peace' length narratives. His writing style is jc level at best. The facts dpn't support his story.
But looking forward to him coming back, offer no tangible proof and post 1,000 words his mother wrote for him. Better yet, admit he's full of baloney.
She sent classified information regarding "Benghazi", to her daughter.
While not illegal, was caught lying multiple times saying the attack was based off of a YouTube video...
600 plus emails of her denying extra security for "Benghazi", while sure it's unfair to directly blame her for terrorist murdering people, she could've authorized extra security. If there was an increased security presence and if Obama and her really had direct knowledge then those people would still be alive.
That alone will cause her to lose the election. Not a hater just facts.
Not a crazy big trump fan but he's different and we need Americans need change and something different.
Also get rid of ObamaCare