Is it impossible to agree on everything Bond?

GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e il momento che verrà
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You all probably noticed the boom in Bond rankings, Bond reviews and what not when Spectre was about to come out. Have any of you ever actually seen a reviewer's ranking with which you can agree completely? Even on these boards it's half a miracle if you find yourself agreeing with another member on most things Bond.

If you look at other film series it's quite easy to find someone with the same taste. There are many people who don't like the prequel trilogy of Star Wars and adore the originals. Same goes for Harry Potter, I'm only fond of 3-8 and I can find someone who agrees with that in a second.

Not so much for 007 however, try and find someone who likes YOLT, OHMSS, TMWTGG, LTK, TWINE on top of all the obvious choices (i.e. FRWL, GF, CR). It's near impossible.

Is it because there is such a big variety of Bond films or are there other reasons?
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  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    Highly unlikely, since there are such a huge number of Bond films, and with each addition to the franchise it becomes less and less likely that people will agree completely with another's rankings. Then the individual likes and dislikes of the various elements in each film will also vary - so I'm afraid that by human nature, it's virtually impossible to agree on everything Bond.

    Someone on this forum told me that their ranking was very similar to mine, though. However, there are a fair few people here with OHMSS at the top or near-top, for LTK, I think there's a couple too. The highest I've seen for YOLT is four. And I believe @DaltonCraig's favorite Bond flick is TMWTGG, while there are some who like TWINE the most here too. DAD, though, I haven't seen too high.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    There's a few trends, but yes it is impossible to have the same opinions. Even if two people have similar rankings, it will be for different reasons. The films are just too varied in tone and style and have any sort of "universal taste".

    The LOTR, SW and Harry Potter films are at least part of the same story and often have the same tone (eg HP films directed by Yates)
  • I agree, the films are way too varied for there to be a common consensus. A person's taste in the series will probably be influenced by what they are introduced to. Those introduced to Connery's era probably won't like Brosnan's films, and those introduced to Moore's movies won't like anything to come out from Dalton, etc.
    That's a generalisation though, since my top five is GE, GF, CR, TLD, TSWLM. Each of those has a different Bond.
    Critically, it is a different matter, I would believe.
  • Posts: 1,498
    It's inevitable - every fan feels like they 'own' the franchise, it's that sense of ownership that creates an emotional connection between the fictional universe and it's fans.
    The flip side is that everyone feels like their version of this universe it the only correct one... so no, we will never agree entirely :)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    If you are looking for someone with TMWTGG as his top Bond film, I'm right here. :-c
  • Posts: 1,498
    If you are looking for someone with TMWTGG as his top Bond film, I'm right here. :-c

    One man's pile of shit is another man's fertilizer...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
    Posts: 41,558
    Yes, impossible.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    AceHole wrote: »
    If you are looking for someone with TMWTGG as his top Bond film, I'm right here. :-c

    One man's pile of shit is another man's fertilizer...

    :)) well there you go. That settles it really.
  • Posts: 4,412
    Yes, impossible.

    no it isn't

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    If you are looking for someone with TMWTGG as his top Bond film, I'm right here. :-c

    I think that answers the original question. If there are people out there who have TWTGG as the best Bond film then an advocate of every variety of combination of the 24 films must be out there.

    Christ there's probably even someone out there who has DAD top!



  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    If you are looking for someone with TMWTGG as his top Bond film, I'm right here. :-c

    I think that answers the original question. If there are people out there who have TWTGG as the best Bond film then an advocate of every variety of combination of the 24 films must be out there.

    Christ there's probably even someone out there who has DAD top!



    Nah, even Lee Tamahori has apologised for it.
  • Posts: 12,241
    In a word yes! So many fans and people to please around the world it will never happen.
  • DragonpolDragonpol The Crazy World of David Dragonpol
    Posts: 14,721
    Yes, impossible.

    Indeed.
  • Posts: 13,242
    NicNac wrote: »
    If you are looking for someone with TMWTGG as his top Bond film, I'm right here. :-c

    I think that answers the original question. If there are people out there who have TWTGG as the best Bond film then an advocate of every variety of combination of the 24 films must be out there.

    Christ there's probably even someone out there who has DAD top!



    Nah, even Lee Tamahori has apologised for it.

    Has he?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Ha!

    I had DAD on top in 2002 for about half a year, if that counts. Of course, it dawned on me later that GE and TND still are better.

    My Top 5 by the end of 2002:
    1. GE
    2. TLD
    3. OP
    4. TND
    5. DAD
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 3,764
    I believe there are atleast two other people who rank AVTAK 5th place. But i don't know or there is somebody ele's who said it be his/her Goldfinger.

    I also notice there be more GF dislikers like there are more Goldeneye (My number 1) haters.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited March 2016 Posts: 4,399
    i personally have From Russia With Love and Casino Royale as my number 1 and 2 respectively (Connery and Craig are also my favorite Bonds)... I've seen quite a few rankings on here, where people have rated those two films towards the bottom of their list......... it really just boils down to personal taste - and not everyone likes the same thing....

    but i do personally think there is a lot of grey area, where a lot of people will "sort of agree" on varying Bond issues - but i think it's impossible to think - much less expect everyone to be on the same brain wave...

    what shouldn't be hard to expect is tolerance - something this place has gotten progressively worse at in recent years.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Close to my own ranking of the films, CR would be my #2 very close to my #1 OHMSS
    with FRWL at #4. :) although I watch them all all the time. :D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    I have FRWL at #1 and CR at #4. The one I don't rank that high (although it's in my top 10) that others probably do is OHMSS. It's really because of Laz. I don't dislike his portrayal, but he doesn't bring enough of the edge I like to see in Bond to rank the film higher.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Of course we all have different tastes, it's one of those, there's no right or wrong choice.
    OHMSS, I just love. The last of the 60s Bonds. I even like Lazenby's acting, gives Bond
    a sense of vulnerability, that I wouldn't have believed with Connery . The locations,
    cast, are all simply perfect for me.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2016 Posts: 23,883
    I agree, it's a beautiful film to look at. Especially when Bond arrives in Switzerland. Laz definitely gives vulnerability to Bond as well, probably more so than any other Bond.

    I only wish there was just a little more steely glare from him. Most of the other Bonds give that off in places, but he always looks so gentle & harmless to me, despite his excellent fighting skills.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I can fully understand your reasons, my Dad hated Lazenby saying he wasn't a patch
    On Connery, but as I loved the Book, with Bond falling in love. For Me I can cut George
    some slack. In many ways I think of OHMSS as a special stand alone edition in the series.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I agree. That's how I see it as well. A quite faithful, sort of parallel universe adaptation.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's also a great " Bond at Christmas" movie. :)
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    It's THE Christmas movie
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Well in my house " Die Hard" is The Christmas movie . :D
    OHMSS, after the Queen then Die Hard when everyone's a little drunk.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Well in my house " Die Hard" is The Christmas movie . :D
    OHMSS, after the Queen then Die Hard when everyone's a little drunk.

    My "Christmas" movie is Long Kiss Goodnight, the German title translates even: Deadly Christmas
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Another great film ( although many don't like it ) great cast.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I was about to say, double feature of Die Hard and Die Hard 2 for me please. OHMSS also, sometime during the festive season.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    I think Die Hard Three came as close to a Bond film as you can. An epic robbery, by
    A nasty organisation, and very much on an epic scale.
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