Has Mission Impossible surpassed Bond?

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Really enjoyed Rogue Nation. Great action and the opening stunt incredible. Loved Rebecca Ferguson in the film. She'd make a great Bond girl.
    I agree. Rebecca Ferguson was the break out star of 2015 for me. She will be in a film with another Bond girl 'must have' (Emily Blunt) later this year, called 'The Girl on the Train'. Can't wait.

    That's one train I'd make sure never stopped.

    What if you saw Eva Green waiting for another train in one of the stations? ;)

    Ouch, touché. I'd turn to Emily and Rebecca and say, "Ladies, it's been fun, but I've got a movie scene to recreate. Cheers."

    And well, you know the rest...

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @bondjames I hope you've seen 'Tinker, Tailor'. 5 star cast, stunning cinematography, and a fantastic plot that keeps you on your toes without any action scenes.

    And that soundtrack..

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    Oh shoot, I forgot to put Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy on my best movie ever list on the best decade thread :-O how could I...
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Really enjoyed Rogue Nation. Great action and the opening stunt incredible. Loved Rebecca Ferguson in the film. She'd make a great Bond girl.

    The MI films could never top Bond because Ethan Hawk isn't a particularly interesting character and they don't have that whole Bond aura that goes back so many years.

    Same with Bourne. Great films but how long can a character go on trying to get his memory back?

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    Sorry forgot he was a Hunt..!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @bondjames I hope you've seen 'Tinker, Tailor'. 5 star cast, stunning cinematography, and a fantastic plot that keeps you on your toes without any action scenes.

    And that soundtrack..

    Yes, I've seen it. I've got it on blu ray as well. It's an old school 'slow burn' kind of thriller imho, in the Harry Palmer vein. I found the performances excellent, especially Mark Strong, Colin Firth, Tom Hardy & of course Gary Oldman.

    I thought BBC's The Game from last year was very similar as well, and that also had a great soundtrack.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    There is a sequel planned, @bondjames, based on the following books with George Smiley from Le Carré's work. Alfredson is keen on directing again with Oldman returning, so maybe they'll get that going once work is done on 'The Snowman'.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Really enjoyed Rogue Nation. Great action and the opening stunt incredible. Loved Rebecca Ferguson in the film. She'd make a great Bond girl.
    I agree. Rebecca Ferguson was the break out star of 2015 for me. She will be in a film with another Bond girl 'must have' (Emily Blunt) later this year, called 'The Girl on the Train'. Can't wait.

    Look forward to it!

    She is a ringer for Ingrid Bergman!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    That's great to know @DaltonCraig007. I've seen the original Smiley's People with Alec Guinness, and thought they would move along with the sequel sooner. Glad to hear it's in the works possibly.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited April 2016 Posts: 28,694
    bondjames wrote: »
    Really enjoyed Rogue Nation. Great action and the opening stunt incredible. Loved Rebecca Ferguson in the film. She'd make a great Bond girl.
    I agree. Rebecca Ferguson was the break out star of 2015 for me. She will be in a film with another Bond girl 'must have' (Emily Blunt) later this year, called 'The Girl on the Train'. Can't wait.

    Look forward to it!

    She is a ringer for Ingrid Bergman!
    @LeonardPine, you're not kidding!

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    As a big Ingrid fan, there is definitely a lot of similarities with her and Rebecca mannerism-wise, and even how I feel they tackle scenes. Both have a certain silent strength to them that is most endearing. That and you instantly fall in love with whatever women they're playing, on principle alone. Not to mention that both are Swedish actresses, born in Stockholm!

    Now I want to see a 40s action film with Bogart in an Ethan Hunt spy role, and Ingrid armed with a massive sniper rifle and a legless dress. How robbed we were of such a spectacle post-Casablanca!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Really enjoyed Rogue Nation. Great action and the opening stunt incredible. Loved Rebecca Ferguson in the film. She'd make a great Bond girl.
    I agree. Rebecca Ferguson was the break out star of 2015 for me. She will be in a film with another Bond girl 'must have' (Emily Blunt) later this year, called 'The Girl on the Train'. Can't wait.

    Look forward to it!

    She is a ringer for Ingrid Bergman!
    @LeonardPine, you're not kidding!

    file_611997_Ferguson-and-Bergman-640x320.jpg

    As a big Ingrid fan, there is definitely a lot of similarities with her and Rebecca mannerism-wise, and even how I feel they tackle scenes. Both have a certain silent strength to them that is most endearing. That and you instantly fall in love with whatever women they're playing, on principle alone. Not to mention that both are Swedish actresses, born in Stockholm!

    Now I want to see a 40s action film with Bogart in an Ethan Hunt spy role, and Ingrid armed with a massive sniper rifle and a legless dress. How robbed we were of such a spectacle post-Casablanca!

    Amazing likeness. You'd had thought Ingrid had been re-born!

    I think both actresses are fascinating to watch. I think Rebecca went a long way in making Rogue Nation as memorable as it was.

    She'd be a fantastic foil for Daniel Craig's Bond!
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    This may be over the top for some but I dont think any of the Bond girls within the DC era can match RF (close for CR perhaps), I wonder if she was even on the radar for Bond?
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    patb wrote: »
    This may be over the top for some but I dont think any of the Bond girls within the DC era can match RF (close for CR perhaps), I wonder if she was even on the radar for Bond?

    Eva Green was fantastic in CR. There's no comparison there.

    Olga Kurylenko's part was pretty under written but she was good otherwise

    Lea Seydoux I thought was excellent in Spectre. Would like to see her again.

    Rebecca Ferguson would make a brilliant foil for Daniel Craig's Bond, but I wouldn't take anything away from Craig's other female co-stars.


  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    patb wrote: »
    This may be over the top for some but I dont think any of the Bond girls within the DC era can match RF (close for CR perhaps), I wonder if she was even on the radar for Bond?
    I agree completely in terms of screen charisma and general acting ability, as demonstrated in the respective films (as opposed to what these actresses might be capable of in other fare), with one exception: - Eva Green was just as good as Vesper Lynd imho.

    I wouldn't say Green was better though, because she was operating with an absolutely sublime cast at the top of their game in CR, including the lead actor. That surely helped her performance. However, like Ferguson, she owned every scene she was in.

    I've always believed Kurylenko was overrated. Very nice to look at, especially in that black dress, but boy is she difficult to understand sometimes (even in November Man, which I watched recently) and she garbles her words constantly. Marlohe had an excellent scene in the casino but didn't really carry the film due to her short stay in SF. Same goes for Seydoux, who actually underwhelmed me relative to expectations in SP.
  • No, it hasn't. Not even close.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    Ok maybe it's because im a woman and generally we don't have good taste when it comes to say which woman are attractive or beautiful but im not so crazy about Rebbeca Ferguson actually i find her a plain Jane.

    Yes she gave a very good performance and she has carisma but I don't find her that gorgeous or attractive to be a Bond girl she more of a MoneyPenny.
    Actually all the Craig Bond girls have been much more attractive than her even Olga with ger looks downplayed.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Szonana wrote: »
    Ok maybe it's because im a woman and generally we don't have good taste when it comes to say which woman are attractive or beautiful but im not so crazy about Rebbeca Ferguson actually i find her a plain Jane.

    Yes she gave a very good performance and she has carisma but I don't find her that gorgeous or attractive to be a Bond girl she more of a MoneyPenny.
    Actually all the Craig Bond girls have been much more attractive than her even Olga with ger looks downplayed.
    It could be because I'm a bloke (with certain biases) but that's what I actually liked about her character. She was one of the guys. Held her own and one could see oneself having a beer (or two) with her at the end of a hard day's work. My kind of gal. She was 'ezee' on my eyes too.
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    Szonana wrote: »
    Ok maybe it's because im a woman and generally we don't have good taste when it comes to say which woman are attractive or beautiful but im not so crazy about Rebbeca Ferguson actually i find her a plain Jane.

    Yes she gave a very good performance and she has carisma but I don't find her that gorgeous or attractive to be a Bond girl she more of a MoneyPenny.
    Actually all the Craig Bond girls have been much more attractive than her even Olga with ger looks downplayed.

    Really enjoyed MI-RN. Can't say I thought Rebecca Ferguson was that great. Looks not a lot like Bergman to my eyes.

    As for the original question - No. MI is a good substitute for Bond when you can't have Bond, but not a match. Plus I dislike that it is often nothing like the TV series.
  • RC7RC7
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    Szonana wrote: »
    Ok maybe it's because im a woman and generally we don't have good taste when it comes to say which woman are attractive or beautiful but im not so crazy about Rebbeca Ferguson actually i find her a plain Jane.

    Yes she gave a very good performance and she has carisma but I don't find her that gorgeous or attractive to be a Bond girl she more of a MoneyPenny.
    Actually all the Craig Bond girls have been much more attractive than her even Olga with ger looks downplayed.

    I don't get the Ferguson thing either.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    vzok wrote: »
    Szonana wrote: »
    Ok maybe it's because im a woman and generally we don't have good taste when it comes to say which woman are attractive or beautiful but im not so crazy about Rebbeca Ferguson actually i find her a plain Jane.

    Yes she gave a very good performance and she has carisma but I don't find her that gorgeous or attractive to be a Bond girl she more of a MoneyPenny.
    Actually all the Craig Bond girls have been much more attractive than her even Olga with ger looks downplayed.


    Really enjoyed MI-RN. Can't say I thought Rebecca Ferguson was that great. Looks not a lot like Bergman to my eyes.

    As for the original question - No. MI is a good substitute for Bond when you can't have Bond, but not a match. Plus I dislike that it is often nothing like the TV series.

    But when can one not have Bond? I enjoy MI in its own way
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    I enjoy MI but it's not Bond. Always Bond first.

    But I will concede that EoN could learn a thing or two from MI. Stuff though they actually used to know before BB's prominence and Mendes's muddling of the character.
  • no, but Tom cruise owns daniel craig anyday craig will go back to irrelevancy pretty fast after his long bond tenure. Tom cruise has been on the cruise control and one of the biggest movie star for 35 years.
  • No.

    Hunt isn't as interesting as Bond.

    While I loved Ghost Protocol, I've never cared for Rogue Nation. I think it has to do with Rebecca Furgeson's character triple-crossing everyone and it suffers like SP in the fact that both films open with their best moment.

    GP > III > MI > RN > II

    Also, the first three seasons of the television show with Martin Landau and Barbara Bain really haven't been surpased by any of the Tom Cruise films.
  • Hunt isn't a character at all. He's just Tom Cruise doing Tom Cruise stuff.

    I liked the first one, thought the second one was terrible, the third one was good, the fourth one was great, but the fifth was really disappointing. I was bored watching it. I think RN was to GP what MR is to TSWLM: a big bloated followup that doesn't understand what made the last one so good was how freshit all felt.

    But even forgetting that for a minute, at the end of the day, MI is at best a good Bond ripoff (it doesn't even have the excuse of being a homage like Kingsman, it is just shamelessly sub Bond stuff). But it can't compete with the real thing. They'll never have the soul Bond has, the style and the legacy and the magic that's impossible to recreate. And that's something that stuck out to me watching RN. It was clearly the most Bond influenced out of all of them, but it just felt soulless in the same way that watching a Marvel film does. Well made but ultimately a very bland safe film that tries to recapture the magic of Bond but can't because Bond is genuinely special and unique, you can't just throw loads of money at a film and hope to recreate that magic.
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    MI, the first one, is one of my favorite spy films. Has been since I saw it in - 96.

    Kind of reminds me of Dalton's Bond movies.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Yes, I agree. The original MI was a 'film ahead'. I'd say it was a precursor to the Craig films. An 'artsy' spy film.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Mission Impossible 2
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Mission Impossible
    Quantum Of Solace
    Mission Impossible 4
    Die Another Day
    Mission Impossible 3
    Casino Royale
    Skyfall


    Deside not to at Spectre in the list, because i haven't seen Mi5 yet and not deside yet where i at Spectre in my rank. I overall think first Mission Impossible movie is atleast so good as Tomorrow Never Dies, whyle Mi2 is so good as Twine.
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