Octopussy Appreciation Thread

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  • barryt007barryt007 Hunting Kara Milovy with a massive elephant gun.
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    Glad to see your perseverance paid off @OnlyManWhoCan ,its the first Bond film I ever saw at the cinema so its a personal one for me.
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    I have great memories of seeing OP in the cinema. It has lots of good stuff in it, from locales, to sets, to action , to characters and it has an underappreciated theme song too imho.
  • barryt007barryt007 Hunting Kara Milovy with a massive elephant gun.
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    The score is one of my favourites too,and the Bond theme is used correctly throughout as well.
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    OCTOPUSSY is the first new Bond film I specifically went to see as a Bond fan. I had seen some of the other Bonds on ABC, but it wasn't until the summer of '83 that I sat down and watched an airing of DN that I became hooked.
    So the following weekend my folks took me to see OP. As we left the Saturday matinee theater in the beautiful incredible hot sun, my mom remarked that this Bond had far more action than the others. My Dad commented that Roger Moore's hair was getting lighter and lighter with each film. He then told me Sean Connery was playing Bond in a rival film coming out later that year.
    Two years later, my Dad had a music gig at a party- kind of an end of summer work event for his job, and they hired his band to perform. Beautiful house in the woods with a hot tub, and more importantly, a VHS player. The owner of the house offered to rent GOLDFINGER for me while the party went on, so his wife took me to their local video store. Sadly, they didn't have GF. They did have TMWTGG, OP and NSNA. For some reason we picked OP.
    I sat in front of their relatively big 27 in screen and popped it in. I probably watched the gunbarrel 10 times before letting the film play. I backed up multiple scenes and watched them repeatedly: the Bond, James Bond, the stuffed sheep's head, and so forth.
    It probably took me four hours to get through the film. I had a blast.
    About two months later, my folks and I were shopping at the local mall, and there was a sale for a 27 inch RCA television (very new looking in 1985), and an VCR. We got it, and brought it home in a cab.
    The next day we went to a used record store that happened to have just a few VHS movies. We bought DARK STAR for $10 and OCTOPUSSY for $20. There were two copis of OP. One was a rental copy in a clear plastic rental case, the other came in the CBS/Fox video box. My Dad chose the rental version. We watched OP that night, and I watched it again the next day after school. During that month in November, 1985 I was popping OP in almost every other day. On the weekends we 'd go to Tower Records and begin renting the other Bonds, GOLDFINGER being the first. By early 1986 I had finally seen them all.
    At the time OP wasn't exactly my favorite, it was just a novelty to have it and be able to watch it whenever I wanted. Today I look back at that time and nostalgia brings OP to the top of my childhood memories as well as a pretty solid number in my rankings.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    OCTOPUSSY is the first new Bond film I specifically went to see as a Bond fan. I had seen some of the other Bonds on ABC, but it wasn't until the summer of '83 that I sat down and watched an airing of DN that I became hooked.
    So the following weekend my folks took me to see OP. As we left the Saturday matinee theater in the beautiful incredible hot sun, my mom remarked that this Bond had far more action than the others. My Dad commented that Roger Moore's hair was getting lighter and lighter with each film. He then told me Sean Connery was playing Bond in a rival film coming out later that year.
    Two years later, my Dad had a music gig at a party- kind of an end of summer work event for his job, and they hired his band to perform. Beautiful house in the woods with a hot tub, and more importantly, a VHS player. The owner of the house offered to rent GOLDFINGER for me while the party went on, so his wife took me to their local video store. Sadly, they didn't have GF. They did have TMWTGG, OP and NSNA. For some reason we picked OP.
    I sat in front of their relatively big 27 in screen and popped it in. I probably watched the gunbarrel 10 times before letting the film play. I backed up multiple scenes and watched them repeatedly: the Bond, James Bond, the stuffed sheep's head, and so forth.
    It probably took me four hours to get through the film. I had a blast.
    About two months later, my folks and I were shopping at the local mall, and there was a sale for a 27 inch RCA television (very new looking in 1985), and an VCR. We got it, and brought it home in a cab.
    The next day we went to a used record store that happened to have just a few VHS movies. We bought DARK STAR for $10 and OCTOPUSSY for $20. There were two copis of OP. One was a rental copy in a clear plastic rental case, the other came in the CBS/Fox video box. My Dad chose the rental version. We watched OP that night, and I watched it again the next day after school. During that month in November, 1985 I was popping OP in almost every other day. On the weekends we 'd go to Tower Records and begin renting the other Bonds, GOLDFINGER being the first. By early 1986 I had finally seen them all.
    At the time OP wasn't exactly my favorite, it was just a novelty to have it and be able to watch it whenever I wanted. Today I look back at that time and nostalgia brings OP to the top of my childhood memories as well as a pretty solid number in my rankings.

    Thanks for sharing our memories. I always like hearing other fans' experiences with the series. It was a special time to be a fan.

    A little piece of trivia: that ABC airing of DN in the summer of '83 was actually tied for the highest-rated show of the week.
  • 00Agent00Agent I drop in occasionally. Shoot in and out.
    edited July 29 Posts: 2,212
    Rewatched Octopussy yesterday, and what an Ahh-mazing movie it still is.

    Octopussy was the first Bond film outside of the Brosnan ones that i fell in love with 20 years ago (must have been 98/99). On my latest Roger marathon i noticed a couple things changed with his movies for me, especially the fact that i fell in love with TSWLM, a movie i never really 'got' before.

    FYEO, sadly is still a movie i don't get. I doesn't draw me in, and is usually a chore to sit through for me.

    So i was a bit worried about OP, would i love it as much as before? Would it sink in my ranking? But i was relieved to find that i still love it every bit as much as i did before, and actually found even more appreciation for it.

    To start off with my review, i don't really watch Bond movies for the plot. Honestly, i never really understood the plot in Octopussy to begin with. The connection between Kamal Khan, Orlov and Octopussy and their individual motivations was never 100% clear to me and felt convulted, so i made a concious decision to REALLY pay attention this time.... and all i can say is "ok got it!". After 20 years i finally understand what this movie is about :)) it is a bit more complex that usual with Bond movies though.

    What i find trully amazing, is the fact that this movie features so many characters, 2 main villains, 3 henchmen, side characters like Margot and Vijay, but all these characters still feel fleshed out and distinctive! There is a personality to them. For example Kamals pissed off and angry but overly loyal Henchman, who occasionally has silly bits where he gets scared, or confused. You have Michka and Grishka, who are Great. Kamal Khan as the slimy bugger, who has a lot of charisma and is a genuine trickster who likes to f*** people over on all sides.
    I absolutely love the little character bits in the movie, like when Kamal and his Henchman leave the circus, climb into the car and the ignition doesn't work on first try and they look at each other for a second like "WTF!" :D
    Orlov is also great as this egoistical, paranoid wannabe napoleon.

    OP feels like a geniuine espionage film, in my opinion even more than FYEO, but it still features plenty of iconic Bond moments.
    The PTS feels very iconic, you have the casino bit which has me in stitches every time "two sixes, fancy that". A great dinner scene later on, and Roger sells every second of it.

    But also you have very gritty scenes with Bond going undercover, left on his own and doing real investigations. The bit behind the iron curtain where Bond sneakes on the Train, that whole sequence is great, there's a real sense of danger, as well as in the Bomb disarming sequence. And then the hunt through the jungle, which is very tense as well. And even the idiotic tarzan jell can't ruin that (unlike the whistle blow in TMWTGG).

    The locations are great, especially the floating palace of Octopussy really made a huge impression on me this time around. I could watch Roger stroll through that for hours.
    Kamal Kahns estate is impressive as well. East Germany feels gritty and tense as it should be.

    And Maud Adams is fantastic, she really was a completely different type of Bond girl, not a damsel in distress but a woman trully in control of her world, which she doesn't get enough credit for imo (maybe it's the name?). After she got one of the worst Bond girl roles in TMWTGG, where she's just a total victim (as to quote Maud herself) used and abused by pretty much all male characters and then dispatched distastefully, i can see why the Bond producers wanted to make up for that and gave her a trully strong and powerful character to play.

    Her chemistry with Rog feels genuine, and even their final moment is not just played for laughs or sexy-time but feels rather romantic. I wish Roger would have stopped after OP as this would have been a beautiful scene to end his run on. You could imagine the two of them sail across the world together (Daniel, take note).

    And on top of all that you get a beautiful John Barry score, definitly one of his better ones.

    As for negatives, there are a couple nitpicks that i have, but nothing that ruins the movie for me.

    -The "charming tune" bit is annoying to me as hell, i still can't wrap my head around the stupidity of that. Why would Bond know his own theme music?! In an otherwise smart and occasionally gritty movie, this bit is even more misplaced than the "This never happened to the other fella" line from OHMSS.

    -The Tarzan yell is not a big deal but it should have been left out.

    -Not a big fan of the Raid at the end. It's just silly.
    Putting soldiers, armed to the teeth with AK47's, up against silly acrobats who do half-assed flips and karate chops AND NO ONE DIES(!!!) is not very convincing to say the least. That "war zone" is so save that even good old Q doesn't think twice about jumping in there.

    But that's really it, other than that the movie has some genuine tense moments and great pacing from start to finish.

    Right now it's pretty must tied with TSWLM for Rogers best for me.
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