No Time to Die on Blu-ray

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  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    Extras get worse with each successive Bond release. (Remember the in-depth documentary on the DAD DVD?)
    The real disappointment is the lack of a director commentary as Mendes's one for Skyfall was excellent.

    Agreed - they've all been rubbish since CR. Skyfall is only saved by the commentary. But its lack of 50th anniversary related extras is woeful. Although I realise they were probably saving it for the 50th box set they released that year. QoS screams for both deleted scenes and director commentary (and one with Craig and director would be the best). I'm guessing in ten years we might get a 20th anniversary of CR edition of something that may have more a restrospective feel which is where the special editions on the box set excel at.

  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    Now, it's a perfect time for a VHS release ! :

    http://www.commander007.net/2016/04/spectre-debarque-vhs/

    It should come with a free 'Vesper Lynd Interrogation Tape'
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Does anyone know where you can find this version?

    http://www.thebondbulletin.com/true-colours-regrading-spectre
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Does anyone know where you can find this version?

    http://www.thebondbulletin.com/true-colours-regrading-spectre

    Christ, I'd pay double what I did for the Blu-ray of the original for that regrading. I love SP, but if one of the few negatives I have of it (the yellow filtering) were alleviated, I would enjoy it even more. I want to see the Austria scenes with the cascading snow pop in vibrant whites, but instead it looks like a million dogs each peed on every patch Bond walks on. The filtering works wonderfully in the Rome scenes because the orange, flame-like hues make it all feel so operatic and moody, but the filtering has no place in the Mexico City or Austria sections, nor when we reach Blofeld's lair. It's at those points where the tint does more bad for the visuals than good.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Does anyone know where you can find this version?

    http://www.thebondbulletin.com/true-colours-regrading-spectre

    Christ, I'd pay double what I did for the Blu-ray of the original for that regrading. I love SP, but if one of the few negatives I have of it (the yellow filtering) were alleviated, I would enjoy it even more. I want to see the Austria scenes with the cascading snow pop in vibrant whites, but instead it looks like a million dogs each peed on every patch Bond walks on. The filtering works wonderfully in the Rome scenes because the orange, flame-like hues make it all feel so operatic and moody, but the filtering has no place in the Mexico City or Austria sections, nor when we reach Blofeld's lair. It's at those points where the tint does more bad for the visuals than good.

    I know! If whoever did this version sees this, please come forward!
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    Those regradings look terrible! Colour temperature is way too cold in them.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Those regradings look terrible! Colour temperature is way too cold in them.
    Agreed. Much prefer the original grading.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Does anyone know where you can find this version?

    http://www.thebondbulletin.com/true-colours-regrading-spectre

    Christ, I'd pay double what I did for the Blu-ray of the original for that regrading. I love SP, but if one of the few negatives I have of it (the yellow filtering) were alleviated, I would enjoy it even more. I want to see the Austria scenes with the cascading snow pop in vibrant whites, but instead it looks like a million dogs each peed on every patch Bond walks on. The filtering works wonderfully in the Rome scenes because the orange, flame-like hues make it all feel so operatic and moody, but the filtering has no place in the Mexico City or Austria sections, nor when we reach Blofeld's lair. It's at those points where the tint does more bad for the visuals than good.

    I know! If whoever did this version sees this, please come forward!

    I've been tempted to download a file of the film in HD and edit the colors myself, but because I have zero experience when it comes to video editing and effects, I've held off on it.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,675
    Does anyone know where you can find this version?

    http://www.thebondbulletin.com/true-colours-regrading-spectre

    Christ, I'd pay double what I did for the Blu-ray of the original for that regrading. I love SP, but if one of the few negatives I have of it (the yellow filtering) were alleviated, I would enjoy it even more. I want to see the Austria scenes with the cascading snow pop in vibrant whites, but instead it looks like a million dogs each peed on every patch Bond walks on. The filtering works wonderfully in the Rome scenes because the orange, flame-like hues make it all feel so operatic and moody, but the filtering has no place in the Mexico City or Austria sections, nor when we reach Blofeld's lair. It's at those points where the tint does more bad for the visuals than good.

    I know! If whoever did this version sees this, please come forward!

    I've been tempted to download a file of the film in HD and edit the colors myself, but because I have zero experience when it comes to video editing and effects, I've held off on it.

    You know, that sounds like a good idea! Screw experience. I often jump into programs without experience and learn as I go. Please do this!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Does anyone know where you can find this version?

    http://www.thebondbulletin.com/true-colours-regrading-spectre

    Christ, I'd pay double what I did for the Blu-ray of the original for that regrading. I love SP, but if one of the few negatives I have of it (the yellow filtering) were alleviated, I would enjoy it even more. I want to see the Austria scenes with the cascading snow pop in vibrant whites, but instead it looks like a million dogs each peed on every patch Bond walks on. The filtering works wonderfully in the Rome scenes because the orange, flame-like hues make it all feel so operatic and moody, but the filtering has no place in the Mexico City or Austria sections, nor when we reach Blofeld's lair. It's at those points where the tint does more bad for the visuals than good.

    I know! If whoever did this version sees this, please come forward!

    I've been tempted to download a file of the film in HD and edit the colors myself, but because I have zero experience when it comes to video editing and effects, I've held off on it.

    You know, that sounds like a good idea! Screw experience. I often jump into programs without experience and learn as I go. Please do this!

    I might try at it in the new year, but for now I think we need to get @Murdock and @jake24 on this mission, as they're more experienced with editing software and all it entails.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Excellent idea! Would you want me to PM them?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Excellent idea! Would you want me to PM them?

    They'll come to the thread when they see their name mentioned in my post. If that doesn't work I'll have them buzzed to my office (designed like the digs of Bernard Lee's M, naturally).
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    The video editing program I use sadly has no color grading. It's a free program that's slightly better than movie maker. :P But I can make a damn good re-score.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Indeed you can, @Murdock. Unfortunately, the editing software I use doesn't have a color grading option beyond your usual Instagram hipster filters.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Alright people! Who else do you know that is good at this sort of thing? :D
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Couldn't you just alter the color settings on your TV to be less intense?
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    No. Someone must right this piss yellow wrong! :D
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2016 Posts: 10,586
    It feels unnatural for me to tamper with another one’s work when it comes to cinematography. However, I can certainly understand where some of the criticisms are coming from, specifically with the Mexico scenes. The over-saturation distracts from the colourful attributes of the Day of the Dead festival.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    There's a lot of filtering in Skyfall too, largely blues and green overlaid from what I can tell, but in that case it is never used where it distracts from the quality of the visuals and those filtering hues are much less unsavory looking than yellow of all things. The blues and greens of that film also bring out Dan's eyes and suits beautifully.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2016 Posts: 10,586
    Deakins was a master at the subtle use of filtration. In fact, none of the Craig films have failed for me from a visual standpoint.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Deakins was a master at the subtle use of filtration.

    He certainly knew that one filter wouldn't work when overlaid on the entire film. It's why there's no kind of blue or green filtering as in other parts of the film in the Shanghai casino scenes or in Scotland, as those hues would make the images odd to view.

    The mistake the SP crew made was making the entire film look yellow, right down to the damn gun barrel at the start. I wish I was in the room when that decision was made to stop that madness from even being suggested.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Of the edits in that article mentioned on the last page, I only thought the Mexico section of the film benefited from the recoloring, the rest of the movie looked fine to me.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    That's what I am saying. Anyone know anybody who can do this?
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    Really don't like the blue hue on them.
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    I also hate the yellow filter. That was a poor choice.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    2017 will bring Brady learning to colour grade and he will blow our minds with a colorful rendition of SP.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    edited January 2017 Posts: 3,675
    Fooled around with my TV. Got rid of the yellow. Also, I found out that you can watch the movie without the Italian subtitles. I'm not sure why you would want to do that as some parts like blowing up the stadium are important to the plot, and you miss Bond's Mickey Mouse comment, but you can.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @PropertyOfALady, I noticed there were different English subtitles, too, one that translated the bits in Italian and one that didn't, for some reason.

    Fun bit of trivia: the subtitles immediately identify Christoph Waltz as 'Blofeld' when we first see him in SP, instead of 'Franz Oberhauser.'
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 4,400
    I’m actually a little surprised at people’s dissatisfaction with SP’s cinematography. One of the things I admired most about the film was its boldness in not trying to replicate SF’s look. SF is a beautifully framed and lit film – it’s a great example of digital photography working at its perk ability (and not trying to replicate the look of film).

    SP is a more grainy and textured looking film. I love that though – it gives the film a whiskey-tinged glow, which in turn has a sort of nostalgia and romanticism to it. In many ways it is very reminiscent of the work of Gordon Willis on the Godfather films.

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    Stand-out scenes for me include the Spectre boardroom scene – which makes excellent use of shadows and golden hues. I love the sweaty and smokey feel of the scenes in Morroco. Also I’m a big fan of the finale in London.

    I like the rich and humid tones to the Mexico scenes – it gives the entire sequence a heady atmosphere – also the sound design during the tracking shot is marvellous. I’m surprised people aren’t more enthused by Hoyte’s work. I suppose it does mute the more garish spectacle of the DOTD, but it’s still a visually very exciting sequence.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Fully agreed, @Pierce2Daniel.
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