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Yeah, well, audiences are more sophisticated now so it's for a reason. I like old-school stuff as much as the next guy but we can't live in the past.
I hope they aim for 2022. Ideally they'll go for a quick recast with an actor that can win the audiences, hire a screenwriter to write a fun, straight-forward Bond adventure and get a suitable director to film it. There's plenty of talent that would jump at the chance of making a Bond film. It's up to EON to make it happen!
Yeah, November 2022 would be great! Thats about 2 years and 9 months since Bond 25. It would be so refreshing, since we only got one "short" gap so far this century. I'm hoping that the 60th anniversary is enough to make them get themselves into gear quickly. But at the same time, I'm not holding my breathe.
Not holding my breath either. I guess it's more likely we'll get another long gap…
Sadly, however, the Craig era, as promising as it started has PROVEN time and time again that it isn't wise to hold one's breath.
Considering CR was 12 years ago, it feels like the series hasn't evolved since then, really. Just took over a decade to re-introduce new versions of beloved characters, and thus create the Scooby Gang.
Imagine if the Moore era kept the same tone of LALD all the way up to AVTAK, and by the time TLD was gearing into production, Roger stayed on and the film would be more or less still follow in the 70's funk "Shaft" trend that was popular in 1973. Would audiences in 1987 have responded as well with a new entry that carried the same early 70's trends? "Shaft", the TMWTGG Kung-Fu phase and so forth? I doubt it.
That's what I feel we're getting with B25.
The difference is Cubby kept the films coming out on a 2 year basis letting the series naturally evolve with the times. The Craig era gets a film every 4 years if one is lucky and cinema audiences move on. It's tough to stay relevant when you're lagging so far behind.
I believe this is acurate. Like with DAD, I think the reaction of B25 will cause them to look for a new direction next time around, and a more traditional approach. I believe that they will double down on the artistic flourishes of the Craig era, having tried and failed the more traditional elements with SP. But I think this time it wil backfire and B25 will go down as a "they pushed it one film too far" effort, like AVTAK, DAF and DAD. They definitely won't try a comedic Bond again with Craig after SP, and I think this will cause the film to be seen as behind the times. They aren't all good (see aquaman) but we have to acceot that modern movies have embraced a more light, colourful advebturing tone. Its in this respect that I feel Bond really needs to catch up.
2 out of 4 movies in the current age are MILES above any Bond movie since the 60s.
On what criteria?
Have yet to see a Cameron film I like. Moore on the other hand is entertainment gold.
+ 10000000000 x 1000000000 x infinity
Whats been lacking for me is a lead actor who really has the charisma and screen presence to match Connery and Moore and solid storytelling.
Craig is good but some recent rewatches of his films have reminded me what he lacks and why he has been so unsuccessful outside Bond.
They need to cast the net wide next time and really find a potential star - someone who will inhabit the role and just own it.
And we need some solid/compelling plots with good writing. One reason I was excited about Danny Boyle was that he really puts story and script first.
Craig is reliant on the drama element to be successful in the part, IMO. If that isn't incorporated in a good way (SP…), then he doesn't have that much to offer.
Connery and Moore (and Brosnan too, to people I know) were much more likable in the part. I still have friends saying Craig isn't Bond in their eyes. I hope there's an actor out there with the right look and charisma (charisma even counts more than acting range to me). An actor that the audiences would immediately buy as Bond.
Craig leaves me a bit cold if I'm totally honest. He's solid but has never blown me away as Bond. Still he has been a step in the right direction. I hope they don't go back to total fantasy nonsense for his replacement.
Agree re. Brosnan. He's been decent in more serious non-Bond roles, so it would definitely have been interesting to see him in a more serious Bond film – like FYEO was to Moore (certain scenes aside, of course!).
Craig leaves me a bit cold too. There's something missing there, IMO.
As a fan, and sadly, I've been coming around to this conclusion as well. Not a detractor of the man, never was. Got sold at his "Invasion" interview with Kidman, just on account of his voice and gaze.
Agreed. I saw an interview once with Harry Saltzman. He said Bond is always set "5 minutes in the future". I couldn't agree more.
I agree on Craig too. I don't know wether it's his look, voice or 'the cut of his jib' but I just haven't been able to take to him. Good actor, but my least favourite Bond.
Going back to the original question, given that films in general seem to be trending toward a slightly lighter approach, I assume Bond will step back in to this, as it was pre Craig.
I nice, standalone mission with a good old fashioned Megalomaniac villain would go down a treat with me. I understand that may not be to everyone's taste after having a decade and a bit of the Craig version.
In terms of the future I'm looking for a taller, suaver, smoother actor, but not a caricature. Someone who cannot easily be duplicated by competitors. Someone with an edge, but with more polish than Craig. Someone who I can look at on the screen and just feel that he just belongs in those suits and in that environment without having to be told as much. In other words, someone who's comfortable with the traditional icon elements of the role and who doesn't look like he's acting it.
I'd prefer a decent actor who can subtly convey emotion without overdoing it. I think Rog and Sean were the best at this. Craig's not bad too.
I also want decent espionage driven plots and just a bit of Le Carre (although I'm certainly not asking for that in entirety). So basically more FRWL style.
I doubt we'll get that, but it's what I'd like.
That sums it up really. He's too "unconventional" to win me over. Had he been more traditional looking (taller etc.) he would have one less things that works against him, IMO. As @bondjames writes in the comment above, we need an actor that's taller, suaver, and smoother – without looking like a caricature.
That being said, having an "unconventional" Bond was probably right for this era, but the era itself has been handled so very, very wrong.
I agree. I felt thrilled when Craig was cast that after Pierce Eon was going in a different direction. It started out promisingly with CR, but damn if this isn't my least favorite era in the franchise. Oddly I do tend to rank the Pierce films a bit lower, but overall I prefer the Bondian vibe of the Brosnan years. ,,,,,,and the 2 year gaps .
Besides, Craig's blonde.
What? To me that's worse than his height.
Bring back the classic Bond.
For the 26th, i mean. For now, I'm happy Craig's doing just one more. It really doesn't bother me that much. Although I Know I'd be over the roof with the prospect of having a new Bond under the helm of CJF out next year.
That's a very good point. Given his era has been so different from the rest, it's actually apropos to an extent that he too physically is different and unconventional. I assume (and sincerely hope) that they plan to close his time out definitively with this next film (otherwise there was really no reason to bring him back), so that they can do a semi-hard reset next time and move forward, blending the best of the Craig era with the best of the classic pre-90 period. The right actor will go a long way towards that, but so will new writers and basically an entirely new team to create a clear differentiation from the past.