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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    Revelator wrote: »
    I'm also surprised that folks didn't know the models were nude--I assumed everyone had heard a version of this Binder anecdote:
    There was a dancer--Carolyn Cheshire...she was very good and all nude for Man With the Golden Gun. I used some rippling water, which covered her body, so we got away with that, but when she danced around sideways, some inappropriate hair stuck out. She wouldn't shave. I said, "Carolyn, we must do something." She said, "Brush it down! Use Vaseline! Do whatever you want to do, but I'm not shaving." So I said, "Give me that brush and let's try it." There I was, brushing away, when suddenly I felt something behind me. At that time, they were shooting the film itself on the next stage. Anyhow, I looked around, and there are Cubby Broccoli and Roger Moore. Cubby looked down on me, standing before Carolyn with my brush, and said, "Look, I'm the producer of this picture. Are you sure we're paying you for this?"
    The is obviously - or at least most likely - the one in the images from the TMWTGG credits production for which @MI6HQ posted the links.

    But I would also assume the filming of this is about as erotic for the participants as going to a public or hotel sauna in most of Europe. Meaning a mixed M/F /(D?) crowd in total nudity, but not the faintest thought of sex.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I seem to recall Moore stating on one of the DVD's that when Binder was filming many of the production team wanted to stop by. I believe Binder would protect the girls and not allow any ogling.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    I'm watching GF right now and I never was aware of Connery's scar on the right side on his neck. It can be spotted clearly when Bond awakes on the plane, meeting Pussy for the first time.

    Does someone knows more about this scar? Can it be seen at other moments, too? Or isn't it a scar at all??
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    @goldenswissroyale

    That's funny, I noticed the same thing for the first time today as well (looking for your bloody quarter-frame ;-), by the way, not watching the whole movie).

    I further noticed for the first time that the reflection of the thug that Bond sees in Bonita's eye in the PTS is not a mirror reflection, i.e. it looks like the guy with whatever he has in his hands is unchanged from the scene before. But he should have been mirrored instead.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    On a recent viewing of the oh so good, FRWL I noticed something concerning Bond wearing a hat.
    During the train sequence, Bond , Tania and Kerim board the train in Istanbul, with Bond without his hat.
    Later on after Bond has defeated Red Grant in their epic fight, Bond puts on a hat as he sneaks up on Grants accomplice who is waiting with the truck. Bond is also wearing the hat, when he’s chased by the Spectre helicopter.
    So I can only deduce from this, that Bond took the hat that Grant was wearing, which he in turn had taken from Captain Nash, when Grant murdered him.
    In saying all that, it’s also possible that Bond had his luggage (including hat) placed on the train before hand, along with the clothes he had for Tania.
    Sorry for the long winded and convulsive post. I thought I’d noticed something new.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    It's a good spot, and I'll look out for this on next viewing. Would be quite fitting having him end up with Nash's hat. This reminds me of the garland of marigolds someone puts around Bond's neck in India, then shortly after he puts it around Q's neck, who then promptly removes it and Vijay ends up with it around his neck.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Now I've already found out the main inspiration for You Only Live Twice 1967, the inspiration just came one year earlier before YOLT, and most likely influenced the Producers (hence rockets, secret bases and islands in the Pacific).
    No doubt..... Never noticed this before.

    Thunderbirds Are Go! And You Only Live Twice bears some resemblance to each other.

  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    Are you sure you’re a twenty something year old girl @MI6HQ ?
    You have a large knowledge of things that would normally be unusual for a person of your age.
    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited February 2023 Posts: 3,393
    Benny wrote: »
    Are you sure you’re a twenty something year old girl @MI6HQ ?
    You have a large knowledge of things that would normally be unusual for a person of your age.
    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    I've actually saw it first as a poster in the Propstore ad on Facebook, it made me a bit curious, so I've searched it on Google, I thought it's a live action film, but it's just an animation when I've found out by watching it on YouTube, and yes, I've noticed some resemblance between this film and You Only Live Twice.

    Before that I've even checked another poster on Propstore where there's a head of the man covered with spikes, and I've found out, it's actually the poster for Hellraiser 😅.

    Maybe, I'm just a curious person.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    Like I said, nothing wrong with that @MI6HQ
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    This is one we don't see on screen. But in LTK, Bond is the best man to Felix Leiter at the latter's wedding. We see part of the reception after the wedding on screen, but one part I was thinking about was the speeches.
    I'm trying to think how the best man speech, made by Bond may have gone.
    Bond doesn't come across as a public speaker, in the films or the novels. One wonders what he might've said. Just an observation.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited March 2023 Posts: 1,450
    Watched Citizen Kane again on a flight this week. There's a scene where Kane says "He provides the pictures, I'll provide the war!" and I never realized that Carver in TND was directly quoting him / making an homage.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Watched Citizen Kane again on a flight this week. There's a scene where Kane says "He provides the pictures, I'll provide the war!" and I never realized that Carver in TND was directly quoting him / making an homage.

    My comment is not about a Bond film, but Citizen Kane. It's a film I can go back to time and again. That you watched it again, do you share the opinion it's a great film?
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited March 2023 Posts: 1,450
    CrabKey wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Watched Citizen Kane again on a flight this week. There's a scene where Kane says "He provides the pictures, I'll provide the war!" and I never realized that Carver in TND was directly quoting him / making an homage.

    My comment is not about a Bond film, but Citizen Kane. It's a film I can go back to time and again. That you watched it again, do you share the opinion it's a great film?

    I find it incredibly watchable, usually a couple times a year when flying. It is indeed very good.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Watched Citizen Kane again on a flight this week. There's a scene where Kane says "He provides the pictures, I'll provide the war!" and I never realized that Carver in TND was directly quoting him / making an homage.

    My comment is not about a Bond film, but Citizen Kane. It's a film I can go back to time and again. That you watched it again, do you share the opinion it's a great film?

    I find it incredibly watchable, usually a couple times a year when flying. It is indeed very good.

    If you haven't seen the documentary The Battle Over Citizen Kane, well worth viewing.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Watched Citizen Kane again on a flight this week. There's a scene where Kane says "He provides the pictures, I'll provide the war!" and I never realized that Carver in TND was directly quoting him / making an homage.

    My comment is not about a Bond film, but Citizen Kane. It's a film I can go back to time and again. That you watched it again, do you share the opinion it's a great film?

    I find it incredibly watchable, usually a couple times a year when flying. It is indeed very good.

    If you haven't seen the documentary The Battle Over Citizen Kane, well worth viewing.

    I'll check it out!
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited March 2023 Posts: 5,016
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    Watching LALD as part of my Bondathon and was stunned to see Quarrell Junior had girlie pictures on the wall of his boat. You see them in the scene where Rosie is changing and unlatches his radio transmitter.



  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 2023 Posts: 3,393
    Is Roger Moore's version of Bond the only one who had no personal car of his own?

    We've seen him drove some cars, yet those weren't actually his:

    * The AMC hornet was stolen from a store
    * The Lotus Cars (the Esprit/Wet Nellie, and those cars from FYEO) were all given by Q Branch.
    * The rest of the cars that he drove were stolen from other owners (2CV from Melina, a car parked in the Russian Base in OP, and the Taxi Renault in AVTAK).

    All of the Bond actors had their own (personal) cars:

    1. Connery had many like his Sunbeam Alpine in Dr. No and his Bentley in FRWL.
    2. Lazenby had Aston Martin DBS in OHMSS
    3. Dalton had Lincoln Mark VII LCS in LTK.
    4. Brosnan had Aston Martin DB5 in Goldeneye, when he's having a test drive with Caroline, racing against Xenia.
    5. And of course, Craig had his Aston Martin in Casino Royale that he had won in the Poker game.

    So far, it's only Roger Moore's Bond who didn't have his own personal car. Or maybe because we don't see Roger Moore's bond in his free days (day off)?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 15,108
    What’s the difference between Dalton’s Lincoln or Connery’s Sunbeam and Roger’s Ford in AVTAK, or his Mini Moke in LALD? All hire cars, surely?
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Is Roger Moore's version of Bond the only one who had no personal car of his own?

    We've seen him drove some cars, yet those weren't actually his:

    * The AMC hornet was stolen from a store
    * The Lotus Cars (the Esprit/Wet Nellie, and those cars from FYEO) were all given by Q Branch.
    * The rest of the cars that he drove were stolen from other owners (2CV from Melina, a car parked in the Russian Base in OP, and the Taxi Renault in AVTAK).

    All of the Bond actors had their own (personal) cars:

    1. Connery had many like his Sunbeam Alpine in Dr. No and his Bentley in FRWL.
    2. Lazenby had Aston Martin DBS in OHMSS
    3. Dalton had Lincoln Mark VII LCS in LTK.
    4. Brosnan had Aston Martin DB5 in Goldeneye, when he's having a test drive with Caroline, racing against Xenia.
    5. And of course, Craig had his Aston Martin in Casino Royale that he had won in the Poker game.

    So far, it's only Roger Moore's Bond who didn't have his own personal car. Or maybe because we don't see Roger Moore's bond in his free days (day off)?

    Didn't the Sunbeam belong to Strangways?
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    When the Lincoln is crushed in GF, you can see the car has no engine as it being lifted by the crane. Noticed it the first time I saw the film and always do. It was removed for obvious reasons, but one of those little details that take away from the moment.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I don't agree that Moore's Bond was the only one without a personal car. Connery had a rental car in DN. In FRWL the line is a throwaway about his Bentley, but we never see him drive one. I might argue that Laz had a Q car as he was technically on Operation Bedlam when he was chasing Tracey down on the beach. I think it might only apply to Brosnan and Craig for personal cars. But in SF somehow his personal Aston is loaded with an ejection seat. Unless Demitrios had that installed?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    We see Bond with his Bentley in FRWL.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    The DB5 in SF is clearly not the DB5 from CR, whatever connection the scriptwriters may have in mind, and it is, in particular, not any of the DB5s of earlier movies.

    The original one is BMT216A...and as I understand it, British cars keep their registration more or less forever. That's a 1963 model. The car first appeared in an episode of The Saint, painted red, but then made its way into GF and later TB, painted "silver birch" (the jury's still out on this) and equipped with gadgets.

    The car of the Brosnan movies is BMT214A...obviously also a 1963 model, but not the same car. Used - as in the Craig movies - to evoke fond feelings of nostalgia among the fan crowd, and no more than that.

    The car Bond wins from Dimitrios in CR is a 1964 model (explicitly mentioned as such in the film), with no British registration, and most of all, it is a left-hand drive model. Even if Bond won it, it won't make any sense for MI6 to convert it into the GF car with the well-known gadgets, including right-hand steering.

    While digging out a DB5 with the "original" registration of BMT216A in SF and later making extensive use of further DB5s (or rather DB5 copies) in NTTD, with at least some of the gadgets that were first seen in GF and then in TB, is too much of a stretch to believe in the first place, it is preposterous to think it is now suddenloy the left-hand drive 1964 car Bond won from Dimitrios. Though it doesn't make sense either way. It's just putting logic aside and let the fans dream of the early Sixties.

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    j_w_pepper wrote: »

    It's just putting logic aside and let the fans dream of the early Sixties.

    Does anyone during production actually think about this stuff, or is it a who cares attitude? "The old farts will love seeing the car again, regardless of the year, model, or what side the steering wheel is on."

    Oh, by the way, let's throw in a gold Land Rover and a guy who looks like GF. That'll be fun. And it was, but if you're trying to sell the new Bond, why remind viewers of the first Bond?

    Speaking of callbacks. Have there been any to the RM series?



  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited April 2023 Posts: 5,016
    One could say that Craig's black outfit in SP was a nod to RM in LALD. I believe both Craig and Mendes said that was their first Bond movie to watch in cinemas. Certainly no cars have been used from RM time in the role. There was a line about an exploding pen but that is tied to Brosnan's Bond, though Moore did have a trick pen in OP.
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    thedove wrote: »
    One could say that Craig's black outfit in SP was a nod to RM in LALD. I believe both Craig and Mendes said that was their first Bond movie to watch in cinemas. Certainly no cars have been used from RM time in the roll. There was a line about an exploding pen but that is tied to Brosnan's Bond, though Moore did have a trick pen in OP.

    So did Connery in NSNA. Oh, that's unofficial.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 15,108
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    The DB5 in SF is clearly not the DB5 from CR, whatever connection the scriptwriters may have in mind, and it is, in particular, not any of the DB5s of earlier movies.

    The original one is BMT216A...and as I understand it, British cars keep their registration more or less forever. That's a 1963 model. The car first appeared in an episode of The Saint, painted red, but then made its way into GF and later TB, painted "silver birch" (the jury's still out on this) and equipped with gadgets.

    The car of the Brosnan movies is BMT214A...obviously also a 1963 model, but not the same car. Used - as in the Craig movies - to evoke fond feelings of nostalgia among the fan crowd, and no more than that.

    The car Bond wins from Dimitrios in CR is a 1964 model (explicitly mentioned as such in the film), with no British registration, and most of all, it is a left-hand drive model. Even if Bond won it, it won't make any sense for MI6 to convert it into the GF car with the well-known gadgets, including right-hand steering.

    While digging out a DB5 with the "original" registration of BMT216A in SF and later making extensive use of further DB5s (or rather DB5 copies) in NTTD, with at least some of the gadgets that were first seen in GF and then in TB, is too much of a stretch to believe in the first place, it is preposterous to think it is now suddenloy the left-hand drive 1964 car Bond won from Dimitrios. Though it doesn't make sense either way. It's just putting logic aside and let the fans dream of the early Sixties.

    It's not that unusual to add an unused year-appropriate plate to an older car which has been imported, and you can certainly change registration numbers in the UK. Although 'A' is a '63 number, you'd have still been able to buy cars in '64 on an A plate as it didn't run Jan-Jan. It's also only Bond's guess that it's a '64 car, I'm not sure how he works that out.

    In my personal take on it, Bond won the car in CR, imported it, re-registered it, and then got his mates in Q Branch to convert it to RHD as a favour (that's not unusual either: it's a service Aston Martin Works and others offer), and while they were doing that they added some gadgets from an old Q car from the 60s they were decommissioning. Or it's possible that as his activities in the Bahamas turned out to lead to an MI6-sanctioned mission in apprehending Le Chiffre, his winnings from there were counted as part of that mission and taken by the UK Government as Government property i.e. the Aston; which is why Q rebuilds it in Spectre. But goodwill towards Bond means they turn a blind eye and it basically becomes his. That scenario is no more preposterous than anything else in a Bond film.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited April 2023 Posts: 3,393
    When Fleming predicted the would be cause of his son's death:

    In Casino Royale novel, Vesper killed herself by overdose.

    (The book's age at the time too was almost close to Caspar's age when he died, the book was published in 1953, Caspar killed himself in 1975, then it's 22, just one year missed, and it's already 23), it's just something that I've realized all of a sudden.

    In 1975, at the age of 23, Caspar killed himself by overdose while he's in his father's Goldeneye villa in Jamaica.

    In the film, Vesper Lynd was 23 when she died, had they adapted that drug overdose angle from the book, it would eerily resembled Ian Fleming's son's death.

    It would echoed Caspar Fleming's death, drug overdose at the age of 23.

    Why I haven't thought of this for a very long time? Maybe it's true? Writings On The Wall?
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    I'll have what you're having.
    8-}
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