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  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited April 2023 Posts: 3,393
    Benny wrote: »
    I'll have what you're having.
    8-}

    Oh, so is it only me?

    Sorry 😥
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    It's only you @SIS_HQ ;)
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited April 2023 Posts: 3,393
    Benny wrote: »
    It's only you @SIS_HQ ;)

    Sorry 😥 I'll just delete it.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    No need too. It's fine. nothing wrong with your post. You see what you see.
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    Benny wrote: »
    This is one we don't see on screen. But in LTK, Bond is the best man to Felix Leiter at the latter's wedding. We see part of the reception after the wedding on screen, but one part I was thinking about was the speeches.
    I'm trying to think how the best man speech, made by Bond may have gone.
    Bond doesn't come across as a public speaker, in the films or the novels. One wonders what he might've said. Just an observation.

    Oh wow, never have thought about this before- great point! I'm sure he kept it short and sweet (especially Dalton's Bond, haha). That would have been a nice inclusion, even if just as a deleted scene.
  • Posts: 4,762
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Is Roger Moore's version of Bond the only one who had no personal car of his own?

    We've seen him drove some cars, yet those weren't actually his:

    * The AMC hornet was stolen from a store
    * The Lotus Cars (the Esprit/Wet Nellie, and those cars from FYEO) were all given by Q Branch.
    * The rest of the cars that he drove were stolen from other owners (2CV from Melina, a car parked in the Russian Base in OP, and the Taxi Renault in AVTAK).

    All of the Bond actors had their own (personal) cars:

    1. Connery had many like his Sunbeam Alpine in Dr. No and his Bentley in FRWL.
    2. Lazenby had Aston Martin DBS in OHMSS
    3. Dalton had Lincoln Mark VII LCS in LTK.
    4. Brosnan had Aston Martin DB5 in Goldeneye, when he's having a test drive with Caroline, racing against Xenia.
    5. And of course, Craig had his Aston Martin in Casino Royale that he had won in the Poker game.

    So far, it's only Roger Moore's Bond who didn't have his own personal car. Or maybe because we don't see Roger Moore's bond in his free days (day off)?

    I like this thought; I'd never considered it! Another interesting thought related to it is how the Moore era seemed to downplay Bond's cars. As you mentioned, most of Moore's cars were stolen or loaned (AMC Hornet, Melina's car, the taxi in AVTAK, etc.), and both of the Lotus cars in FYEO are barely seen. Only the Lotus in TSWLM seems to get any attention. I don't know if this was a conscious effort during his era or maybe just a byproduct of already having plenty of other gadgets, but it's interesting to note.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited July 2023 Posts: 567
    Just noticed in this shot in TLD outside Universal Exports, there's a newspaper in the background with the headline, "Blazing Jet at 2100 Feet." Does anyone know if this is a real headline?
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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
    edited July 2023 Posts: 8,724
    Just noticed in this shot in TLD outside Universal Exports, there's a newspaper in the background with the headline, "Blazing Jet at 2100 Feet." Does anyone know if this is a real headline?
    You made me curious. TLD was filmed from the end of September 1986 until February 1987. The screencap suggests it is autumn (clothing, trees). My guess is that the headline refers to this incident where the aircraft crashed into a mountain at a level of 2,185 feet and went up in flames. This was heavily publicized since it was the President of Mozambique's plane. So I would not be surprised if the headline is real.

  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Just noticed in this shot in TLD outside Universal Exports, there's a newspaper in the background with the headline, "Blazing Jet at 2100 Feet." Does anyone know if this is a real headline?
    You made me curious. TLD was filmed from the end of September 1986 until February 1987. The screencap suggests it is autumn (clothing, trees). My guess is that the headline refers to this incident where the aircraft crashed into a mountain at a level of 2,185 feet and went up in flames. This was heavily publicized since it was the President of Mozambique's plane. So I would not be surprised if the headline is real.

    I think you may be right. My initial thought was this Aeroméxico flight which crashed on 31 August 1986 after a collision with a smaller aircraft over Los Angeles. But the Tupolev incident sounds more plausible. Thanks @j_w_pepper.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Would have been cool if the headline was "Jeep crashes through patio at Gibraltar killing innocent monkeys!"
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited July 2023 Posts: 5,016
    I never noticed that the airline in the PTS of Moonraker was an actual California airline. While this would not make sense as Bond was coming back from the "African job" it's a pretty cool fact. You can learn more about the airline

    https://airlinehistory.co.uk/airline/apollo-airways-ii

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Naturally, I have a timetable and ticket folder from Apollo.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Parachutes optional? LOL!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    That's extra, man!
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    thedove wrote: »
    I never noticed that the airline in the PTS of Moonraker was an actual California airline. While this would not make sense as Bond was coming back from the "African job" it's a pretty cool fact. You can learn more about the airline

    https://airlinehistory.co.uk/airline/apollo-airways-ii

    Apollo+jetstream.jpg

    The African job... in USA: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Africa,+Indiana+47635,+EE.+UU./@37.8403266,-87.0727745,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x886fb1e8a231883d:0xb317f62c71a9474c!8m2!3d37.8403271!4d-87.0727745!16s/g/11bzrpb6w2?entry=ttu ;)
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited July 2023 Posts: 3,393
    You Only Live Twice, a novel by Ian Fleming is already at its 60th Anniversary next year!

    It's been released in March 26, 1964 by Jonathan Cape, and next year, will be celebrating its 60th anniversary, hope the IFP would not forget it.

    Never thought of that before! Just noticed it!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I was watching a bit of CR tonight, and apologies if it’s been mentioned a lot before, but I noticed that Mathis introduces himself as “Mathis, Rene Mathis”. Is the inference that this is where Bond gets his famous style of introduction from?
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    I was watching a bit of CR tonight, and apologies if it’s been mentioned a lot before, but I noticed that Mathis introduces himself as “Mathis, Rene Mathis”. Is the inference that this is where Bond gets his famous style of introduction from?

    Oh very interesting.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    That might be the case. Quite a subtle thing but one never knows. It sounds plausible that Bond liked it and decided to do the same going forward.
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    In chapter 3 of the novel Bond already knows Mathis. M suggests Mathis as an ally for the mission to take on Le Chiffre. Bond responds, "I'd certainly like to have Mathis, sir." If anything, I'd say Mathis' introduction in the film is for the audience rather than infer Bond's iconic introduction was influenced by an ally.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    It's an interesting thought though. Must admit I never noticed how Mathis introduced himself - or maybe I'm just too used to other characters doing this to think much of it: "Soames. Tilly Soames".
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    "Trench, Sylvia Trench."

  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited August 2023 Posts: 567
    I always assumed it was a common way of introducing yourself back in the day. Cary Grant does it when he's impersonating me in North By Northwest. I guess it fell out of use because the association with Bond became too strong. People would just roll their eyes at you.

    I've been tempted to do it a couple of times but I've always bottled it. I also have quite a harsh sounding name which doesn't help.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited August 2023 Posts: 735
    thedove wrote: »
    "Trench, Sylvia Trench."

    Openly flirts with Bond; projects self-confident sexual dynamism; boldly commands the table; and strides through the casino like she owns it.

    The very first Bond Girl.

    Every bit his equal.

    In 1962.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I always assumed it was a common way of introducing yourself back in the day. Cary Grant does it when he's impersonating me in North By Northwest. I guess it fell out of use because the association with Bond became too strong. People would just roll their eyes at you.

    I've been tempted to do it a couple of times but I've always bottled it. I also have quite a harsh sounding name which doesn't help.

    I rather like Kaplan! We share the same boot maker. (sorry feeling silly today!)

    Yes I think people would assume you are a Bond fan when you introduce yourself like that. But when you think of it, this way is brilliant for being remembered.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
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    Feyador wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    "Trench, Sylvia Trench."

    Openly flirts with Bond; projects self-confident sexual dynamism; boldly commands the table; and strides through the casino like she owns it.

    The very first Bond Girl.

    Every bit his equal.

    In 1962.

    And then breaks into his house and puts on his clothes.

    A bit of pervert as well.
    thedove wrote: »
    I always assumed it was a common way of introducing yourself back in the day. Cary Grant does it when he's impersonating me in North By Northwest. I guess it fell out of use because the association with Bond became too strong. People would just roll their eyes at you.

    I've been tempted to do it a couple of times but I've always bottled it. I also have quite a harsh sounding name which doesn't help.

    I rather like Kaplan! We share the same boot maker. (sorry feeling silly today!)

    Yes I think people would assume you are a Bond fan when you introduce yourself like that. But when you think of it, this way is brilliant for being remembered.

    Much appreciated @thedove, it would be a great way of being remembered. Perhaps I'll get around to it one of these days.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
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    Feyador wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    "Trench, Sylvia Trench."

    Openly flirts with Bond; projects self-confident sexual dynamism; boldly commands the table; and strides through the casino like she owns it.

    The very first Bond Girl.

    Every bit his equal.

    In 1962.

    And then breaks into his house and puts on his clothes.

    A bit of pervert as well.
    thedove wrote: »

    Top Five Bond-character pervs ...

    5. Nick-Nack
    4. Everyone in Moonraker
    3. Xenia
    2. Vargas
    1. James Bond
  • Posts: 1,567
    "I like the way Mathis introduced himself. I think I'll use that." I'm not seeing it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    thedove wrote: »
    That might be the case. Quite a subtle thing but one never knows. It sounds plausible that Bond liked it and decided to do the same going forward.

    Yeah, it just feels like in a film where they’ve decided Bond won’t say it until the final scene, it’s a bit of a choice to have another character do it. Maybe not, it’s not given any significance by the direction, but vaguely interesting nevertheless.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited August 2023 Posts: 1,450
    mtm wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    That might be the case. Quite a subtle thing but one never knows. It sounds plausible that Bond liked it and decided to do the same going forward.

    Yeah, it just feels like in a film where they’ve decided Bond won’t say it until the final scene, it’s a bit of a choice to have another character do it. Maybe not, it’s not given any significance by the direction, but vaguely interesting nevertheless.

    The movie, quite particularly Mathis and the ending, have to do with phones. It could be Bond being coy about catching up to Mr. White via Vesper's phone, which probably does last-name, first-name, and Mr. White did ask his name over the phone. Plus, if he thinks Mathis is a bad guy with Mr. White, maybe introducing himself as Mathis would is a message too-I caught you etc.
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