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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited September 2022 Posts: 1,278
    Venutius wrote: »
    I never saw the end of that film - as soon as I sussed that it was a twist on those Wham lyrics, I switched it off! Not even kidding. I can't be watching tripe like that, man! Based on what I did see, I'd say that Golding's too lightweight for Bond. But that brings us back to the 'is it the role or is it the actor?' conundrum. Looking at that film, I can't picture Golding as Bond - but, as someone else said, if you looked just at Tomb Raider, how many of us would've seen Craig as Bond? No easy way around this one.

    In fairness, I get that if you were a producer and were looking for a new Bond/watched Tomb Raider at the time with this in mind, Craig would certainly have struck them as Bond material. Something like the scene where he steps out of the shower/meets Croft in the hotel room give me a very 'Bondian' sense, and I can see shades of Craig's later performances as Bond in the way he moves, his delivery etc.

    But yes, it's not easy, and often it's a case of honing in on those little things - the walk, certain moments, certain line deliveries etc. rather than the more overt things about an actor and the parts they play.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I never saw the end of that film - as soon as I sussed that it was a twist on those Wham lyrics, I switched it off! Not even kidding. I can't be watching tripe like that, man! Based on what I did see, I'd say that Golding's too lightweight for Bond. But that brings us back to the 'is it the role or is it the actor?' conundrum. Looking at that film, I can't picture Golding as Bond - but, as someone else said, if you looked just at Tomb Raider, how many of us would've seen Craig as Bond? No easy way around this one.

    I think 'lightweight' is a good way to describe him, I get that vibe too. He's very decent, but yes, perhaps not a heavyweight presence.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited September 2022 Posts: 1,860
    Yeh, tbh. Whereas with someone like, say, Jason Isaacs I don't think anyone would've described him as lightweight no matter what the role. 'Presence' is a good way of putting it, actually. Like charisma, it might be one of those largely indefinable traits that you know when you see it, but it does seem to be an important element that whoever gets the Bond role should have. Connery, Dalton, Craig - heavyweights all, with presence in abundance. The majority of the current contenders? Not so much.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lagos, Nigeria
    edited September 2022 Posts: 582
    I think even if it's more appropriate to imagine someone in the role before they film their scenes as James Bond, we might never know who's right for the role, until a Bond scene is filmed with the actor. Then suddenly, we might start seeing it.
  • ByRoyalDecreeByRoyalDecree
    edited September 2022 Posts: 715
    Presence Indeed. Masculine, scary looking, and there is weight behind his movements.

    But I always thought Isaacs like Dalton would have been a BBC Bond compared to Craig or Brosnan.

    Connery, Moore, Craig and Brosnan still possessed distinctly boyish qualities and charms.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    QsCat wrote: »
    Just had a look at Isaacs in some scenes from The Tuxedo. He’d have been great! He was probably a bit too old at the time at about 40. I was aware of him before, but having just seen those clips of him I can’t help but think we are really scraping the barrel right now with Harry Styles and Josh Connor [-X

    At that time I don't think it would have been an issue. But he was probably too Lucius Malfoy. That said, I still sort of hope he'll play Dracula in a faithful adaptation of the novel. Not that it's very likely to happen.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2022 Posts: 12,108
    Ooh he would be a good Drac, wouldn't he? Good call.
    Mind you, I think Claes Bang was pretty excellent.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited September 2022 Posts: 14,111
    mtm wrote: »
    Ooh he would be a good Drac, wouldn't he? Good call.
    Mind you, I think Claes Bang was pretty excellent.

    I think Bang was godawful in an even worse production. But Dracula needs first a good project with a writer and a production team that respects and loves the source material.

    Okay, okay I digress.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2022 Posts: 12,108
    Right, okay, fine.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Now picturing Isaacs as a driven and relentlessly deadly Bond...
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Yeah he has always seemed like a pretty good call. I'll have to watch The Tuxedo.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Not sure if this was already linked... Makes one wonder:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/james-bond-producers-are-finding-villain-007-1235225507/
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    Not sure if this was already linked... Makes one wonder:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/james-bond-producers-are-finding-villain-007-1235225507/

    Really makes the most sense, IMO.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Maybe Aidan Turner would make a good villain if that's what they're thinking about at the moment. I'm not even joking.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Maybe Aidan Turner would make a good villain if that's what they're thinking about at the moment. I'm not even joking.

    In the vein of Greene, possibly.
  • ByRoyalDecreeByRoyalDecree
    edited September 2022 Posts: 715
    Bond if anything. Not sure he has the range to play anything but an underacting villain. He is likeable in lead roles but I cringe when I see him in the Toast of Tinseltown.



    If bond however, I could see him pulling of the first film to lean heavily into the horror genre. (Scaramanga's mirror room meets Silva's cyanide face and Baron Samedi).

    It's either that, Nolanesque dark grand action or realism (if he can be a tad more charismatic).
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    ByRoyalDecree wrote: »
    Bond if anything. Not sure he has the range to play anything but an underacting villain. He is likeable in lead roles but I cringe when I see him in the Toast of Tinseltown.



    If bond however, I could see him pulling of the first film to lean heavily into the horror genre. (Scaramanga's mirror room meets Silva's cyanide face).

    It's either that, Nolanesque dark grand action, or realism (if he can be a tad more charismatic).

    LOL that was the whole point of that flick, I reckon he did a good job then. ToT is a low budget pulp production.
  • ByRoyalDecreeByRoyalDecree
    edited September 2022 Posts: 715
    It's not cringe in the good way. Listen I think he would be a great Bond, but there is no arguing he is very unfit for certain roles. e.g. a villain like Dominic Greene. He is too good looking.

    But I could be wrong:
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  • ByRoyalDecreeByRoyalDecree
    edited September 2022 Posts: 715
    Maybe if you give him a bald cap and a fat suit.
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  • Since62Since62
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    I think the actor who next plays Bond must come across convincingly as a battle-Hardy-ned warrior. He must be believable at action, whether shooting, kicking, punching or Elba-ing people. He must be able to quickly Turner from warm to cold-hearted when threatened, revealing a Cillian instinct. He must display plenty of Styles and taste for the finer things in life. He must be able to Hoult the bad guy's plans time and time again. When he finds himself at an all-time Lowden, he must bounce back and kick ass again. And when he is unable to complete the mission for himself, he must call in the Cavill-ry, so that we can have a YOLT-style battle again. He must be Sasse, and display a flair for comedy without being too Hamm-y. He must be prepared to go to France and Italy, South Africa and Holland. And of course, he must be in it for the Wyn.

    Just keep adding to it as you see fit.

    Waaaiiit a minute. I sense something is afoot ! Something tells me there's no Moore to be added...
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    ByRoyalDecree wrote: »
    It's not cringe in the good way. Listen I think he would be a great Bond, but there is no arguing he is very unfit for certain roles. e.g. a villain like Dominic Greene. He is too good looking.

    But I could be wrong:
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    You have a point indeed. Where'd the head shot go though? Link me up Scotty.
  • ByRoyalDecreeByRoyalDecree
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    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    ByRoyalDecree wrote: »
    It's not cringe in the good way. Listen I think he would be a great Bond, but there is no arguing he is very unfit for certain roles. e.g. a villain like Dominic Greene. He is too good looking.

    But I could be wrong:
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    You have a point indeed. Where'd the head shot go though? Link me up Scotty.

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  • Since62Since62
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    A note with regard to Jason Isaacs - he could play a Villain SOOOO well. Of course, some fans might wind up liking him more than whoever plays Bond in such a film. As for having a villain who is something of a former-Bond-type, that already was done - albeit with a contemporary of Bond - in GE. Still, on the simple basis that he's a terrific actor, with a great look, and should be able to portray a compelling character somewhere in a Bond film, that would describe Mr. Isaacs. In fact, for a variety of actors considered too old to portray Bond in more than a single film, this concept would apply. In each instance, though, the Bond actor would have to be VERY likable in the role, lest the audience like the Villain, or M, or whomever, more than Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Isaacs would also make an excellent M; but perhaps he would be a bit too close to Fiennes. I also think that Elba could make for an interesting M.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't think Elba would make a great M: he's just too much like Bond. You can't have two Bonds.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    I don't think Elba would make a great M: he's just too much like Bond. You can't have two Bonds.

    He would work with a younger Bond.

  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Craig and Isaacs once played a gay couple in a play. Imagine if that'd been two Bonds!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2022 Posts: 12,108
    I think that'd still be ten years away for Elba though, he's still giving off handsome leading man vibes.
    I don't think M should be the sexy alpha male; it's more interesting to give Bond a different type of person to butt up against.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    I think that'd still be ten years away for Elba though, he's still giving off handsome leading man vibes.
    I don't think M should be the sexy alpha male; it's more interesting to give Bond a different type of person to butt up against.

    Well he’s at an interesting point of his career; he can still pla the alpha male in his prime, but take the hair color out with a refined grey beard, and he could easily play the older spy chief and not the blunt instrument.

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