Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I think it’s particularly important not make a shitty film if they cast a minority.

    Believe me, once Bond gets into the public domain, we're gonna have a black, LGBTQ+ and trans Bond everywhere, not saying that it would be bad, but...

    Lol, literary Bond is already in the public domain here in Canada.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 29 Posts: 11,554
    I think it’s particularly important not make a shitty film if they cast a minority.

    Believe me, once Bond gets into the public domain, we're gonna have a black, LGBTQ+ and trans Bond everywhere, not saying that it would be bad, but...

    Bond won’t get into the public domain, it’s a trademark. You’ll no more be able to make and market a film starring James Bond 007 in 20 years time than you will be able to make and sell your own Coca Cola right now.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I hope the casting of the next actor isn't aimed at being purposely controversial, for the sake of promotion.

    I think NTTD suffered a slight backlash with the leak Nomi was going to be a female 007. I felt sorry for Lashana, they made so much of her character in the initial trailers and marketing, then in the film they barely wrote Nomi as a worthwhile character.
    The endless delays gave the marketing team time to readjust and focus on the scale of the film and it being the end of an era.

    They seemed aware of the backlash to Craig's casting (in Being James Bond) when they mentioned the box office numbers of Casino Royale, Wilson and Craig agreed they could have done even better without the silly bad press around the film.
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    It's a double edged sword really. Cast a non-white actor who is right for the part and risk people online foaming at the mouths and generating bad publicity for the film. Don't consider non-white actors at all and risk someone special falling through the cracks.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 29 Posts: 11,554
    There will be mouth-foaming no matter what I think: the chosen guy will be too fat, too thin, wrong hair colour, too young, too weak a chin, not clean shaven enough etc. Papers like the Mail thrive on controversy (remember all of the ‘cursed set’ stuff when NTTD was filming? It’s all been long forgotten about, but they were desperate to stir all that up just to sell a bit more advertising space, how all the ladies present fancied Craig’s sexy stunt double more than they did him etc.) so headlines about there being an adverse reaction to the new Bond are completely inevitable no matter who it is.
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    Yeah, unfortunately all true. Ah well, suppose we'll have moaning to look forward to in the run up to this film.
  • edited September 30 Posts: 589
    Will they dare if it is Idris?

    I was too young to pay attention last time around, but if this trashing becomes a ritual it actually sounds like fun.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lagos, Nigeria
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    I think a word from Craig to Bond 7 would instantly put Bond 7 at ease. I've always thought Craig's electric performance in CR is a response to the pre-criticism he got from fans. So I think Bond 7 would do the same.
  • edited September 29 Posts: 589
    They must have not seen Layer Cake. Or they were just trying to sell newspapers.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited September 29 Posts: 1,680
    Yeah, they were that keen to put the boot in that they even invented a yarn that Dan 'couldn't drive stick' - seemingly not knowing that nearly 99% of UK drivers take their driving test in a manual car, not an automatic. Oops.
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    They must have not seen Layer Cake. Or they were just trying to sell newspapers.

    Layer Cake was a relatively obscure movie. The general public and the newspapers use famous movies, TV seroes and other sources as references. They look at who is known at that time, who looks good in a tux during a gala, etc.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Yeah, they were that keen to put the boot in that they even invented a yarn that Dan 'couldn't drive stick' - seemingly not knowing that nearly 99% of UK drivers take their driving test in a manual car, not an automatic. Oops.

    I remember that he also lost his teeth.
  • edited September 30 Posts: 1,090
    Perhaps along with suggesting actors for the next Bond, we could also suggest what negative qualities the press will inevitably say about them and what stories will come out? I mean, we're not too far off of this anyway...

    Aidan Turner? Lack of chin. Sources say the VFX team have been working overtime to digitally enhance his lower face. Film to be delayed by 2 months...

    Jack O'Connell? Trashy smile. Specific 'smile' coaches have been hired in order to work with him and teach him to contort his mouth in a smoother, more 'Bondian' way. So far the results have been mixed... Film to be delayed by weeks.

    Harry Styles? Can't act. As a result he keeps on getting nervous onset and sings his lines. Apparently this has been the case with his other film roles, except Dunkirk, mostly due to no one saying much in that film anyway. ADR to be done using a dubbing actor. Film to be delayed for an unspecified amount of time...

    Timothee Chalamet? No, just no... Sources say that EON, realising what a horrible mistake they've made, have had to kill him, making it look like an onset accident and will announce it soon. Craig to return as Bond...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Perhaps along with suggesting actors for the next Bond, we could also suggest what negative qualities the press will inevitably say about them and what stories will come out? I mean, we're not too far off of this anyway...

    Aidan Turner? Lack of chin. Sources say the VFX team have been working overtime to digitally enhance his lower face. Film to be delayed by 2 months...

    Jack O'Connell? Trashy smile. Specific 'smile' coaches have been hired in order to work with him and teach him to contort his mouth in a smoother, more 'Bondian' way. So far the results have been mixed... Film to be delayed by weeks.

    Harry Styles? Can't act. As a result he keeps on getting nervous onset and sings his lines. Apparently this has been the case with his other film roles, except Dunkirk, mostly due to no one saying much in that film anyway. ADR to be done using a dubbing actor. Film to be delayed for an unspecified amount of time...

    Timothee Chalamet? No, just no... Sources say that EON, realising what a horrible mistake they've made, have had to kill him, making it look like an onset accident and will announce it soon. Craig to return as Bond...

    You made me laugh, although none of this is unlikely to actually happen.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    007HallY wrote: »

    Jack O'Connell? Trashy smile. Specific 'smile' coaches have been hired in order to work with him and teach him to contort his mouth in a smoother, more 'Bondian' way. So far the results have been mixed... Film to be delayed by weeks.

    As an actor I can say personally from experience that I went through an intensive 18-month smile clinic with 16 different smile coaches that cost about $50,000 and it's all bullshit, total waste of time and money; they might have to just go with someone else.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    007HallY wrote: »

    Jack O'Connell? Trashy smile. Specific 'smile' coaches have been hired in order to work with him and teach him to contort his mouth in a smoother, more 'Bondian' way. So far the results have been mixed... Film to be delayed by weeks.

    As an actor I can say personally from experience that I went through an intensive 18-month smile clinic with 16 different smile coaches that cost about $50,000 and it's all bullshit, total waste of time and money; they might have to just go with someone else.

    You are not making these numbers up? Wow! :| That is one expensive training!
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Matt Smith.
    It would be a creatively brave decision, Barbara likes those. He's fun and interesting to watch. He's the Goldilocks level of famous. He's a bit of a chameleon, could act the socks off the part.
    He maybe doesn't have the 'classic look' but that concept was brilliantly smashed to bits by DC.
    I give you Matt Smith.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I would love to see Smith in the films. If not as Q, then a henchman.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    Matt Smith.
    It would be a creatively brave decision, Barbara likes those. He's fun and interesting to watch. He's the Goldilocks level of famous. He's a bit of a chameleon, could act the socks off the part.
    He maybe doesn't have the 'classic look' but that concept was brilliantly smashed to bits by DC.
    I give you Matt Smith.

    All of this is true, he was brilliant as Philip in The Crown, but for me he's too weird for Bond.
    Weird is a fantastic thing, but less so for Bond IMO.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 1 Posts: 5,152
    Yeah, Matt Smith is a fantastic actor. His work on The Crown and currently House of the Dragon is stunning, but I'm not sure he's suited to James Bond in the sense of the film franchise. If EON were to develop a television series with more faithful adaptations of the novels, then I think Smith would be perfect, in my opinion.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lagos, Nigeria
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    I think all the Bonds have rugged features that still show hints of a protagonist. Matt Smith is a great actor, but his features are more of villainy...I think. But as always, we'll never know who's right for Bond, until one scene of them as 007 is shown to the world.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Yeah, Matt Smith is a fantastic actor. His work on The Crown and currently House of the Dragon is stunning, but I'm not sure he's suited to James Bond in the sense of the film franchise. If EON were to develop a television series with more faithful adaptations of the novels, then I think Smith would be perfect, in my opinion.

    Yeah, weirdly once you've played Patrick Bateman (as he has) then you kind of show a potential for Bond I think! :D
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe Moderator
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    I can't picture Matt Smith as Bond, he looks too unconventional. Then again, I was wrong about him in Doctor Who, he was an excellent choice. I will happily be proven wrong again, I just can't see it in my head.

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    The longer the wait goes on, the more I'm second guessing my own opinion. God help Barbara and Michael, I don't envy the task in hand at all
  • LucknFateLucknFate Arkhangelsk
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    Really not necessary or funny. Let people live.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    I can't picture Matt Smith as Bond, he looks too unconventional. Then again, I was wrong about him in Doctor Who, he was an excellent choice. I will happily be proven wrong again, I just can't see it in my head.

    Great comment. It was me who suggested Matt Smith a few posts back, a left field choice. (I'm sure I'm not the first to do so)
    But your comment perfectly mirrors my thoughts on who ever gets the job. There are so many suggestions on this thread who I just can't picture as Bond. Yet that is what makes it so exciting, we won't know if they are the right man for the job until the film starts. I'm completely open minded on it.
  • LucknFateLucknFate Arkhangelsk
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    I can't picture Matt Smith as Bond, he looks too unconventional. Then again, I was wrong about him in Doctor Who, he was an excellent choice. I will happily be proven wrong again, I just can't see it in my head.

    Great comment. It was me who suggested Matt Smith a few posts back, a left field choice. (I'm sure I'm not the first to do so)
    But your comment perfectly mirrors my thoughts on who ever gets the job. There are so many suggestions on this thread who I just can't picture as Bond. Yet that is what makes it so exciting, we won't know if they are the right man for the job until the film starts. I'm completely open minded on it.

    When did the temp on Craig change? That first CR trailer is an all-timer, I'd be shocked if that didn't turn many doubtful folks before the movie. But still, you're right about truly not knowing if it's right until the movie is rolling. A trailer isn't everything.
  • 007HallY wrote: »

    Jack O'Connell? Trashy smile. Specific 'smile' coaches have been hired in order to work with him and teach him to contort his mouth in a smoother, more 'Bondian' way. So far the results have been mixed... Film to be delayed by weeks.

    As an actor I can say personally from experience that I went through an intensive 18-month smile clinic with 16 different smile coaches that cost about $50,000 and it's all bullshit, total waste of time and money; they might have to just go with someone else.

    Arnold Schwarzenegger reportedly spent somewhere in the range of $250k on smile coaches in the early part of his career. I’d say the results were worth it.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited October 2 Posts: 6,755
    Interesting, I’m happy to hear this.

    https://screenrant.com/james-bond-younger-actor-never-producer-response/

    ”We’ve tried looking at younger people in the past. But trying to visualize it doesn’t work. Remember, Bond’s already a veteran. He’s had some experience. He’s a person who has been through the wars, so to speak. He’s probably been in the SAS or something. He isn’t some kid out of high school that you can bring in and start off. That’s why it works for a thirty-something.”
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Interesting, I’m happy to hear this.

    https://screenrant.com/james-bond-younger-actor-never-producer-response/

    ”We’ve tried looking at younger people in the past. But trying to visualize it doesn’t work. Remember, Bond’s already a veteran. He’s had some experience. He’s a person who has been through the wars, so to speak. He’s probably been in the SAS or something. He isn’t some kid out of high school that you can bring in and start off. That’s why it works for a thirty-something.”

    Always reassuring to read quotes like these. :)
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