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  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    Univex wrote: »
    Anyone can dig up that comment by Turner’s agent about him having met with Barbara? - if this even happened. Or was it Hiddleston?

    Don't know if it's the same source, but here's one article:
    https://www.newsweek.com/poldarks-aidan-turner-next-james-bond-436917

    The 32-year-old star jetted off to Los Angeles to meet with Bond producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson last week, it’s claimed.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,677
    Thanks, thought I had imagined it!
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Interesting....I didn't know Turner was that far down the line regarding the role.
    Time to start taking him very seriously then.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    This story has always confused me:

    The producer of Poldark spilled the beans that Turner supposedly was having this meeting, which brings her and her show great attention (at an award ceremony no less). And why was the meeting in LA considering where Michael, Gregg, Barbara and EoN reside?

    Why go to LA when the players are London-based?

    Plus Newsweek took the Sun as the source, so, there's that to. Unless, of course, the Sun is now a serious place to get news.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Interesting....I didn't know Turner was that far down the line regarding the role.
    Time to start taking him very seriously then.
    I'm not sure how far down the road he is in terms of being considered, but it wouldn't surprise me if they've at least chatted with him at some point. I'd say he's certainly one of the potential choices for Bond #007.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Eon talk to actors all the time. They don't divulge the information because they don't want any potential damage being done to an actor's career if it gets out that he failed to land the Bond role. Plus they don't want to suggest that Daniel Craig is definitely on his way.

    Over the years we have found out the names of dozens of actors who have spoken to Eon, so it would be a big surprise if Aidan Turner doesn't get to at least chat with Eon.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    Isn´t that what film Producers do? Chat with actors, open up Options. If I´m not mistaken, 80-90% of Projects that are somehow in preparation don´t get made in the end. So it´s only a natural process if filmmakers Keep Talking to all Kinds of People. After all this is a Business based very much on Networking.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Quite. But if anyone gets a sniff of an actor speaking with Barbara Broccoli then people are all over it
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,400
    The latest name the press is speculating over is Ricky Whittle….
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/film/next-james-bond-could-former-13869025

    This likely has something to do with the latest series of American Gods screening soon. The first series got great reviews and seemingly cemented him as a star on the rise in Hollywood. I can only imagine major Hollywood franchises are eyeing him up.

    Though his credentials a little spotty for British audiences. He is a former soap actor turned Strictly Come Dancing contestant. He’s got a fairly dodgy CV – but he’s turning his fortunes around.

    Plus, for those who think that Idris is too ‘street’ for Bond, Whittle looks suave and urbane. Could he change minds? I’d take him over Cavill any day.

    shadow-moon-american-gods-1.jpg
    1280_ricky_whittle_getty.jpg

    He would have to grow his hair and have a shave. But I can see it. Currently he looks more like an overpayed footballer. But he could have something.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    The latest name the press is speculating over is Ricky Whittle….
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/film/next-james-bond-could-former-13869025

    This likely has something to do with the latest series of American Gods screening soon. The first series got great reviews and seemingly cemented him as a star on the rise in Hollywood. I can only imagine major Hollywood franchises are eyeing him up.

    Though his credentials a little spotty for British audiences. He is a former soap actor turned Strictly Come Dancing contestant. He’s got a fairly dodgy CV – but he’s turning his fortunes around.

    Plus, for those who think that Idris is too ‘street’ for Bond, Whittle looks suave and urbane. Could he change minds? I’d take him over Cavill any day.

    shadow-moon-american-gods-1.jpg
    1280_ricky_whittle_getty.jpg

    It have to grow his hair and have a shave. But I can see it.

    Not caucasian, so no chance.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited January 2019 Posts: 15,423
    Even if he were to be black, Whittle doesn't possess that Bondian look, so that's an instant no.

    If you want a black Bond, at least aim higher. Someone who has that sophisticated posh charm like Colin Salmon.

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    When I look at this man, I do see a perfectly moulded 00-agent I can respect and trust. One who's very possible to walk into a casino, take his cigarette case out and flip the lighter cap open and light his Morlands cigarette while looking cool. A man of stature.

    Putting the names of random black actors just because they're British won't instantly make them instantly plausible candidates.

    Otherwise... where's my Jason Statham-starred Bond film?
  • barryt007barryt007
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    With a name like Ricky Whittle,thats laughable for a start.

    Who makes all this crap up ?!
    Some people have too much time on their hands.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    This blackification for the sake of being PC needs to stop. Stop the virtue signalling already. Bond is white as described by Fleming and that's the end of it.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    This blackification for the sake of being PC needs to stop. Stop the virtue signalling already. Bond is white as described by Fleming and that's the end of it.

    Hear hear !!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    barryt007 wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    This blackification for the sake of being PC needs to stop. Stop the virtue signalling already. Bond is white as described by Fleming and that's the end of it.
    Hear hear !!
    Make that two!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Something tells me he won't be chatting with EON anytime soon.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    I'm not sure Aiden Turner has proved that he is a bankable star yet.

    Times change, and even as late as 2005 Eon were able to take a chance with Daniel Craig. Yes, he was a leading man in small budget films, but he was definitely a risk.

    In 2020, it may be different. Turner is a TV star, but would he be a bankable big screen star? We really don't know.

    Tall, dark and handsome actors are ten a penny. But tall, dark and handsome actors with bags of big screen charisma? A lot thinner on the ground.

    In terms of exposition Turner is more bankable than Craig back in the day, Layer Cake gave him the nod. However with a small budget of 6.5 mil and a return of only double it was hardly a success. I.e. Craig wasn't bankable back then. He was what EoN (Babs) wanted, a bit of a relatively unknown/obscure-ish actor.
    Turner stars, for example, in Poldark. One of the biggest BBC shows and has been sold to many foreign countries. As many experts claim TV isn't a dirty word anymore, just look at Netflix and HBO alone. Poldark can actually be seen on Netflix. Turner in this day and age is on the verge of breaking through, given what he's done so far and his (praised by critics) talent. Bond would be the perfect breakthrough part, just like it was for Craig.

    Well, I went to great pains to point out that Craig wasn't a bankable star back in 2005 in order to avoid this kind of lecture. But, as you will.

    Craig had broken into films as a leading man in British films, and an acclaimed actor in bigger budget Hollywood films. And yes he wasn't obvious Bond fodder. And no, he wasn't bankable.

    My point still stands though. This is 2019, and times change.
    Yes TV is a much bigger medium now, but Poldark isn't Breaking Bad. It's cosy Sunday night eye candy, and maybe we need to see more to give Barbara Broccoli the feeling that he could do it.

    They can't take risks this time around. The stakes are up, the competition is immense.

    Not a lecture, merely addressing some points. I didn't like Craig for Bond back in the day, apart from the fact CR is a great Bond film. My opinion about him hasn't changed all that much retrospectively. To me he still looks and acts like a brute, say a Russian spy, a great adversary for Bond if you will. To each his own, eh?

    Comparing Poldark to BB is a moot point, the latter being a cult hit. Comparing any show to it would be difficult. Point being, Poldark is a huge show, worldwide. He is incredibly popular with women and the show itself is watchable for men, too. Have you ever seen Poldark or And Then There Were None? He's shown enough, imo. But sure, one film hit would be great too.

    I'm not the fanboy kind, blindly clinging to stars, it's just there is something special about this one Aidan Turner. He's being handed to Babs on a silver platter. It would be daft to ignore it.

    Yes, of course. But even if I hadn't it makes no difference, because I'm not talking about my preference, or who I think should be Bond. I'm not even talking about how good Turner looks in and out of clothes. (He looks great, of course).

    I'm talking about whether Turner has the clout to maintain Bond's popularity in the eyes of the Eon producers. They can't afford to take a risk, and as much as you suggest Turner is nailed on to be successful, it simply isn't a good enough guarantee.

    I support no one, but when I suggested that Richard Madden's star had risen thanks to his Golden Globe win, thus bringing him to the attention of the American public (an important thing to consider) it was taken as me suggesting Madden should be Bond. I was not saying that, I was merely looking at the facts. A Golden Globe does no harm to anyone.

    So, with Marvel and MI cleaning up at the box office, can Broccoli afford to take any risks? I'd say not.

    Oh, and talking of moot points. Craig has had his time and was enormously successful as Bond, so whether he looks like a Russian thug is also moot. Craig is Bond, and has done it well. Nothing to prove there.


    Turner has the clout, a 100% and EoN probably already knows this. Turner has all the ingredients, more than Craig did anyway. Also, it's always a risk to cast a new actor. Just look at Dalton, the majority of critics/people found him too dark/serious, in comparison to Moore. How 'wrong' were those people, looking back. He was ahead of his time. Turner just needs to prove himself and he can only do that by 'being' Bond. He needs to be given the chance, simple as that.

    Your stance on Madden is a little strange. Just because he won a GG he should be Bond. What? No, he's an actor who won a GG and that's that really. Is he Bond material is the true question. I assure you he is not, at least not compared to the competition you speak of.

    Craig Bond? That's subjective as can be. Just like with Dalton who wasn't liked very much at all back in the day, yet now is, especially among Bond adepts. So with that logic he wasn't Bond back then, yet now is. To myself and many others Craig isn't Bond. Indeed he played Bond, but he doesn't have the Bond DNA, imo. Subtle difference.
    peter wrote: »
    Thanks for the sober observations, @NicNac ... You’re very intuitive and your words and comments are eloquently and intelligently shared. I have to agree with your perspective.

    No nice words for me then ColonelSun? I mean Peter ;)

    Must’ve missed that. Cheeky.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited January 2019 Posts: 15,818
    I can distinctly recall the the Fleming books and some of the Garner novels. Perhaps my memory is falling?

    Where among all those pages, does it specifically state that Bond has a beard and a high fade?

  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    peter wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    I'm not sure Aiden Turner has proved that he is a bankable star yet.

    Times change, and even as late as 2005 Eon were able to take a chance with Daniel Craig. Yes, he was a leading man in small budget films, but he was definitely a risk.

    In 2020, it may be different. Turner is a TV star, but would he be a bankable big screen star? We really don't know.

    Tall, dark and handsome actors are ten a penny. But tall, dark and handsome actors with bags of big screen charisma? A lot thinner on the ground.

    In terms of exposition Turner is more bankable than Craig back in the day, Layer Cake gave him the nod. However with a small budget of 6.5 mil and a return of only double it was hardly a success. I.e. Craig wasn't bankable back then. He was what EoN (Babs) wanted, a bit of a relatively unknown/obscure-ish actor.
    Turner stars, for example, in Poldark. One of the biggest BBC shows and has been sold to many foreign countries. As many experts claim TV isn't a dirty word anymore, just look at Netflix and HBO alone. Poldark can actually be seen on Netflix. Turner in this day and age is on the verge of breaking through, given what he's done so far and his (praised by critics) talent. Bond would be the perfect breakthrough part, just like it was for Craig.

    Well, I went to great pains to point out that Craig wasn't a bankable star back in 2005 in order to avoid this kind of lecture. But, as you will.

    Craig had broken into films as a leading man in British films, and an acclaimed actor in bigger budget Hollywood films. And yes he wasn't obvious Bond fodder. And no, he wasn't bankable.

    My point still stands though. This is 2019, and times change.
    Yes TV is a much bigger medium now, but Poldark isn't Breaking Bad. It's cosy Sunday night eye candy, and maybe we need to see more to give Barbara Broccoli the feeling that he could do it.

    They can't take risks this time around. The stakes are up, the competition is immense.

    Not a lecture, merely addressing some points. I didn't like Craig for Bond back in the day, apart from the fact CR is a great Bond film. My opinion about him hasn't changed all that much retrospectively. To me he still looks and acts like a brute, say a Russian spy, a great adversary for Bond if you will. To each his own, eh?

    Comparing Poldark to BB is a moot point, the latter being a cult hit. Comparing any show to it would be difficult. Point being, Poldark is a huge show, worldwide. He is incredibly popular with women and the show itself is watchable for men, too. Have you ever seen Poldark or And Then There Were None? He's shown enough, imo. But sure, one film hit would be great too.

    I'm not the fanboy kind, blindly clinging to stars, it's just there is something special about this one Aidan Turner. He's being handed to Babs on a silver platter. It would be daft to ignore it.

    Yes, of course. But even if I hadn't it makes no difference, because I'm not talking about my preference, or who I think should be Bond. I'm not even talking about how good Turner looks in and out of clothes. (He looks great, of course).

    I'm talking about whether Turner has the clout to maintain Bond's popularity in the eyes of the Eon producers. They can't afford to take a risk, and as much as you suggest Turner is nailed on to be successful, it simply isn't a good enough guarantee.

    I support no one, but when I suggested that Richard Madden's star had risen thanks to his Golden Globe win, thus bringing him to the attention of the American public (an important thing to consider) it was taken as me suggesting Madden should be Bond. I was not saying that, I was merely looking at the facts. A Golden Globe does no harm to anyone.

    So, with Marvel and MI cleaning up at the box office, can Broccoli afford to take any risks? I'd say not.

    Oh, and talking of moot points. Craig has had his time and was enormously successful as Bond, so whether he looks like a Russian thug is also moot. Craig is Bond, and has done it well. Nothing to prove there.


    Turner has the clout, a 100% and EoN probably already knows this. Turner has all the ingredients, more than Craig did anyway. Also, it's always a risk to cast a new actor. Just look at Dalton, the majority of critics/people found him too dark/serious, in comparison to Moore. How 'wrong' were those people, looking back. He was ahead of his time. Turner just needs to prove himself and he can only do that by 'being' Bond. He needs to be given the chance, simple as that.

    Your stance on Madden is a little strange. Just because he won a GG he should be Bond. What? No, he's an actor who won a GG and that's that really. Is he Bond material is the true question. I assure you he is not, at least not compared to the competition you speak of.

    Craig Bond? That's subjective as can be. Just like with Dalton who wasn't liked very much at all back in the day, yet now is, especially among Bond adepts. So with that logic he wasn't Bond back then, yet now is. To myself and many others Craig isn't Bond. Indeed he played Bond, but he doesn't have the Bond DNA, imo. Subtle difference.
    peter wrote: »
    Thanks for the sober observations, @NicNac ... You’re very intuitive and your words and comments are eloquently and intelligently shared. I have to agree with your perspective.

    No nice words for me then ColonelSun? I mean Peter ;)

    Must’ve missed that. Cheeky.

    All in jest, dear Peter :)
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,507
    Oh, I know. That’s why it was cheeky in my book, lol.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,677
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    This blackification for the sake of being PC needs to stop. Stop the virtue signalling already. Bond is white as described by Fleming and that's the end of it.
    Hear hear !!
    Make that two!

    Make them three!
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,400
    It looks as though Jack O'Connell may be out of race as he seems the favourite to take another iconic role - Batman.

    The-Batman-Jack-OConnell.jpg
    https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/jack-oconnell-still-top-choice-replace-ben-affleck-batman/

    I understand some people's misgivings about him - he hasn't played any suave leading men before. But this guy has something. It's really hard to define, but he's a really special performer who is destined to become regarded as one of the best actors working. Any franchise would be lucky to have him...

    I just hope that Eon move quickly to hire him before the Batman people do!

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    Once you play one iconic role, it pretty much rules you out for Bond - especially if you're the incumbent actor.

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    Though many here do think that Superman himself - Henry Cavill should play the role - I mean, he certainly looks like Bond. I just find him less exciting and intriguing a choice as someone a little more left-field like O'Connell.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    It looks as though Jack O'Connell may be out of race...
    Best news I've read all day
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    ... as he seems the favourite to take another iconic role - Batman.

    The-Batman-Jack-OConnell.jpg
    https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/jack-oconnell-still-top-choice-replace-ben-affleck-batman/
    That's rather unfortunate imho. My expectations for Batman don't include O'Connell. Wayne comes from money and should look it. The more I think about it, Wayne may be a more difficult role to cast than Bond going forward. I honestly can't think of anyone out there who can do it at the moment, whereas many of the Bond hopefuls will be ok by me.
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    I understand some people's misgivings about him - he hasn't played any suave leading men before. But this guy has something. It's really hard to define, but he's a really special performer who is destined to become regarded as one of the best actors working.
    I agree that he is an excellent actor and has something. However, he also has certain shortcomings (pun intended) and comes across as ordinary onscreen, even if intense. I would prefer someone a bit more refined, but still with a lethal quality.
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    I just hope that Eon move quickly to hire him before the Batman people do!

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    That's how I felt about Bale in 2005. Shame, although he was magnificent under Nolan and I'm glad we had him in that role.
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Once you play one iconic role, it pretty much rules you out for Bond - especially if you're the incumbent actor.

    CrazyClearCapeghostfrog-size_restricted.gif

    Though many here do think that Superman himself - Henry Cavill should play the role - I mean, he certainly looks like Bond. I just find him less exciting and intriguing a choice as someone a little more left-field like O'Connell.
    I agree. The more famous one is for another iconic role, the less likely one is to get Bond, especially when such role is current. Having said that, who knows how things might change going forward. They may go for a more famous face, to minimize business risks.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    What, he´s too short for Bond and now he´s supposed to Play Batman? Amusing.

    I think O´Connell is an above-average Young Actor, but can´t they find him some more original roles that fit his physique better? No matter how good an Actor he might be, Batman is even more obviously physically tall than James Bond.
    It´s a shame that Hollywood is so afraid of original material These days that they waste the best Talent.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited January 2019 Posts: 6,677
    Sure, sure, Aidan Turner isn't bankable yet. He's only done TV. Sure. How about now?



    Another Bond audition, then?

    And a young Sam Elliot. Now that's range!!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,090
    Univex wrote: »
    Sure, sure, Aidan Turner isn't bankable yet. He's only done TV. Sure. How about now?



    Another Bond audition, then?

    And a young Sam Elliot. Now that's range!!

    Incredible!
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,677
    Right? Love Sam Elliot! And this one seems like a very special adventure.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,677
    Get Aidan Turner, and get him fast on contract for the 26th! Do it, EON!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    This will surely raise his stock immeasurably. I've always said that he needs to do something else more high profile and this looks like a decent film too. I'm looking forward to it.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 15,818
    As much as I object to 007 having facial hair, I would take the legend known as SAM ELLIOTT as Bond over any of the baby-faced pretty boys being consistently mentioned in the media.

    Actually that trailer does make me leans towards Aidan Turner. He looks extremely classic there.
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