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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2018 Posts: 4,343
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    In M:I Fallout Henry Cavill's acting is so wooden, so lazy. He's just handsome.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Better have a block of wood, than a sappy BBC soap opera actor.

    Nope... I would definitely choose Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan over a block of wood like Henry Cavill. ;)
    That is your opinion. And I can't recall Moore, Dalton and Brosnan being sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors. Unless you correct me.

    Uhm, yes, I know that's my opinion.

    Moore got used to the role from TSWLM and his first two outings were pretty disappointing. In his last, sometimes he was just embarrassing. Dalton has always been a B-series actor. Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore. Just my opinion.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    In M:I Fallout Henry Cavill's acting is so wooden, so lazy. He's just handsome.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Better have a block of wood, than a sappy BBC soap opera actor.

    Nope... I would definitely choose Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan over a block of wood like Henry Cavill. ;)
    That is your opinion. And I can't recall Moore, Dalton and Brosnan being sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors. Unless you correct me.

    Uhm, yes, I know that's my opinion.

    Moore got used to the role from TSWLM and his first two outings were pretty disappointing. In his last, sometimes he was just embarrassing. Dalton has always been a B-series actor. Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore. Just my opinion.

    "Sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors".

    You still haven't replied to my point you were trying to counter. I'll wait.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    In M:I Fallout Henry Cavill's acting is so wooden, so lazy. He's just handsome.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Better have a block of wood, than a sappy BBC soap opera actor.

    Nope... I would definitely choose Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan over a block of wood like Henry Cavill. ;)
    That is your opinion. And I can't recall Moore, Dalton and Brosnan being sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors. Unless you correct me.

    Uhm, yes, I know that's my opinion.

    Moore got used to the role from TSWLM and his first two outings were pretty disappointing. In his last, sometimes he was just embarrassing. Dalton has always been a B-series actor. Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore. Just my opinion.

    "Sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors".

    You still haven't replied to my point you were trying to counter. I'll wait.

    Oh Gosh, it was an hyperbole. Just like yours, I hope. BTW tell me, do you consider Craig a sappy BBC drama soap opera actor?
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,372
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    In M:I Fallout Henry Cavill's acting is so wooden, so lazy. He's just handsome.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Better have a block of wood, than a sappy BBC soap opera actor.

    Nope... I would definitely choose Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan over a block of wood like Henry Cavill. ;)
    That is your opinion. And I can't recall Moore, Dalton and Brosnan being sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors. Unless you correct me.

    Uhm, yes, I know that's my opinion.

    Moore got used to the role from TSWLM and his first two outings were pretty disappointing. In his last, sometimes he was just embarrassing. Dalton has always been a B-series actor. Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore. Just my opinion.

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    In M:I Fallout Henry Cavill's acting is so wooden, so lazy. He's just handsome.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Better have a block of wood, than a sappy BBC soap opera actor.

    Nope... I would definitely choose Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan over a block of wood like Henry Cavill. ;)
    That is your opinion. And I can't recall Moore, Dalton and Brosnan being sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors. Unless you correct me.

    Uhm, yes, I know that's my opinion.

    Moore got used to the role from TSWLM and his first two outings were pretty disappointing. In his last, sometimes he was just embarrassing. Dalton has always been a B-series actor. Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore. Just my opinion.

    "Sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors".

    You still haven't replied to my point you were trying to counter. I'll wait.

    Oh Gosh, it was an hyperbole. Just like yours, I hope. BTW tell me, do you consider Craig a sappy BBC drama soap opera actor?
    No. I was referring to the choices on this thread like Jack O'Connell, James Norton, Harry Styles and Nicholas Hoult who are apparently far more superior to fit the tone of Bond as "actors" than Henry "Block of Wood" Cavill.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    In M:I Fallout Henry Cavill's acting is so wooden, so lazy. He's just handsome.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Better have a block of wood, than a sappy BBC soap opera actor.

    Nope... I would definitely choose Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan over a block of wood like Henry Cavill. ;)
    That is your opinion. And I can't recall Moore, Dalton and Brosnan being sappy BBC Drama soap opera actors. Unless you correct me.

    Uhm, yes, I know that's my opinion.

    Moore got used to the role from TSWLM and his first two outings were pretty disappointing. In his last, sometimes he was just embarrassing. Dalton has always been a B-series actor. Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore. Just my opinion.

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    :)

    But I still love his two outings.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited September 2018 Posts: 15,423
    matt_u wrote: »
    Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore. Just my opinion.
    This, also, couldn't be more misleading. Brosnan left a large amount of impact on the audience during his tenure and brought a whole new generation of fans to the series while playing as the face of a big franchise. Many Brosnan detractors love to just rewrite history the way they see fit, when in reality, Brosnan was key to recruiting new audiences to the Bond crowd the way Craig did not manage. Sure, one would argue Craig's films brought a lot of money, but Bond on a commercial line is nowhere near what used to be during Brosnan's tenure. Alas, not a lot of youngsters nowadays are interested in Bond or talk about it the way they used to, fifteen years ago. Only a couple of loud minorities here would love to deny that.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2018 Posts: 4,343
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore[/b]. Just my opinion.
    Brosnan was key to recruiting new audiences to the Bond crowd the way Craig did not manage.

    Speaking about rewriting history.

    BTW I was speaking about how he wasn't able to make the character more personal, more Brosnan and less a Connery remake for the Nineties. He also publicly spoke about this frustrations.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore[/b]. Just my opinion.
    Brosnan was key to recruiting new audiences to the Bond crowd the way Craig did not manage.
    Speaking about rewriting history.
    Prove me wrong.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited September 2018 Posts: 45,489
    Michael B Jordan was one of the absolutely worst casting decisions in both Fantastic Four and Black Panther. Let s have him ruin Superman as well.

    Edit: I realize it s the wrong thread, it s a reaction to a post on the previous page.
  • MooreFunMooreFun
    Posts: 385
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore[/b]. Just my opinion.
    Brosnan was key to recruiting new audiences to the Bond crowd the way Craig did not manage.

    Speaking about rewriting history.

    BTW I was speaking about how he wasn't able to make the character more personal, more Brosnan and less a Connery remake for the Nineties. He also publicly spoke about this frustrations.

    Craig's era has largely marked the end of the licensing schemes. A series of mediocre video games, which ended years ago, no toys, no extra items to bring in younger fans. The fanbase is aging and Craig's films aren't helping.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    MooreFun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Brosnan, well, there's a reason why he wasn't able to give to the role a personal mark as strong as Connery, Craig and Moore[/b]. Just my opinion.
    Brosnan was key to recruiting new audiences to the Bond crowd the way Craig did not manage.

    Speaking about rewriting history.

    BTW I was speaking about how he wasn't able to make the character more personal, more Brosnan and less a Connery remake for the Nineties. He also publicly spoke about this frustrations.

    Craig's era has largely marked the end of the licensing schemes. A series of mediocre video games, which ended years ago, no toys, no extra items to bring in younger fans. The fanbase is aging and Craig's films aren't helping.
    +1. Thank you!
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,790
    Hey the games were good I liked 4 out of 5 of them (the ps2 and 360 versions of Quantum of Solace were extremely different)
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    The Brosnan games were great!
    Hope the next Bond era will bring that Element back.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    00Agent wrote: »
    The Brosnan games were great!
    Hope the next Bond era will bring that Element back.
    A lot of members here are clearly against it. ;)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,335
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    The Brosnan games were great!
    Hope the next Bond era will bring that Element back.
    A lot of members here are clearly against it. ;)

    Time to trigger them. :D =))
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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Murdock wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    The Brosnan games were great!
    Hope the next Bond era will bring that Element back.
    A lot of members here are clearly against it. ;)
    Time to trigger them. :D =))
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    Captain Murdock saves the day! :))
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    He actually suits the role of generic video game Bond. It’s about his level.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,335
    Without "generic video game Bond." We wouldn't have this masterpiece. =))
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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Michael B Jordan was one of the absolutely worst casting decisions in both Fantastic Four and Black Panther.

    You couldn't be more wrong.

    He was actually the only good thing about that crappy F4ntastic 4 mess and he was great as Killmonger.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited September 2018 Posts: 13,912
    Well, the Brosnan era had all the elements to translate perfectly to games, the Craig era doesn't seem to have translated well to the video game medium. I long for the 2001-2002 days of Bond video games, but I just don't feel as if they will ever come back.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2018 Posts: 1,661
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »

    Considering that a delay is likely and that the series could possibly reboot in 2020. Could we possibly be looking at the Cavill-era beginning soon?
    RC7 wrote: »
    Let’s hope not.

    Heh. Harsh but to the point. :P

    Henry Cavill might seem a bit old hat by the time Bond 26 goes into production. Assuming Eon hasn't sold up and Babs and MG aren't living the high life on some remote island, they'll probably go for a fresher face? Having said that Craig wasn't a new actor when he got the part. Broccoli preferred Craig to Cavill back in 2005 so history may repeat itself in the future. Cavill may be in the race but not take first place.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,172
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Why would Eon hire someone to lead their franchise now following this?
    Because he's a safe choice that would serve their purposes and do what they wanted.

  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2018 Posts: 1,661
    Now that Henry has left Superman I think we can expect endless interviews where he says "I can play the role of James Bond because I'm no longer Superman!"

    :P

    We know Henry can't stop talking about Bond. When he wakes up in the morning the first thing on his mind is the b word.

    No, not breakfast.

    BOND!!!!!!

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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,335
    With good writing, He would be a great Bond. It's not his fault the DCU sucked.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited September 2018 Posts: 40,611
    I've done a complete flip-flop on him as Bond, I'd be all for it. Him dropping out of playing Superman makes it a greater possibility, as I don't see The Witcher taking up much time at all.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,335
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I've done a complete flip-flop on him as Bond, I'd be all for it. Him dropping out of playing Superman makes it a greater possibility, as I don't see The Witcher taking up much time at all.

    Precisely. :-bd
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,372
    Murdock wrote: »
    With good writing, He would be a great Bond. It's not his fault the DCU sucked.

    The Bond films sure needs some proper writing. It's not only the casting they need to get right.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,335
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    With good writing, He would be a great Bond. It's not his fault the DCU sucked.

    The Bond films sure needs some proper writing. It's not only the casting they need to get right.

    That is very true.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,611
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    With good writing, He would be a great Bond. It's not his fault the DCU sucked.

    The Bond films sure needs some proper writing. It's not only the casting they need to get right.

    The script is where it begins and ends. You can get the best actors and throw hundreds of millions of dollars at the production, but if the script is trash, there isn't much salvation in store.
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