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Why so many Felixes?

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  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
    Posts: 2,400
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Cec Linder was once voted the best Leiter on a Norwegian site. I love him as well. They put things in the drinking water here.

    I don't know why I'm quoting a four year-old comment, but I missed this the first time around and it is bloody hysterical.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,959
    Maybe it’s a code name. ;)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,955
    Cec Linder is da bomb.
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,500
    I hope Wright returns as Leiter. I always liked him in the role. And, perhaps controversialy (?), I hope he does so even after Craig leaves and we have a new Bond.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 14,816
    jobo wrote: »
    I hope Wright returns as Leiter. I always liked him in the role. And, perhaps controversialy (?), I hope he does so even after Craig leaves and we have a new Bond.

    My reservation is that he’ll be a bit old then. But it’s nice to keep some continuity between the Bond actors.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    CrabKey wrote: »
    CrabKey said:
    Cool, co-billing, I need more money Jack Lord went on to......?

    That's a joke, right? (Forgive me, sometimes it's hard to tell...) Jack Lord went on to stardom in his own right on the original version of Hawaii Five-0. "Book him, Danno!"

    Actually, no, it isn't a joke. Beyond Hawaii Five-O, what did JL do?
    That's the thing. He didn't do anything. He had found what he wanted to do with Hawaii Five-O, owning shares of the show as well (if you noticed, the show has always been about him and the rest were all his Yes Men, which was at times laughably obvious, yet it wasn't cringeworthy). He had total control of a material that was a vehicle for him and didn't need much else to do. He appeared as a naval commander in a TV movie, afterwards, however. That was his final role as he retired after that.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    I want Matthew McConaughey to take over as Felix.

    ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT.

    That way if Craig stays on after B25 and another 5-6 year gap he can say:

    "James gets older..............they stay the same age. Yes they do"

    when a 22 year old leading lady is cast opposite Craig.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 14,816
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    CrabKey said:
    Cool, co-billing, I need more money Jack Lord went on to......?

    That's a joke, right? (Forgive me, sometimes it's hard to tell...) Jack Lord went on to stardom in his own right on the original version of Hawaii Five-0. "Book him, Danno!"

    Actually, no, it isn't a joke. Beyond Hawaii Five-O, what did JL do?
    That's the thing. He didn't do anything. He had found what he wanted to do with Hawaii Five-O, owning shares of the show as well (if you noticed, the show has always been about him and the rest were all his Yes Men, which was at times laughably obvious, yet it wasn't cringeworthy). He had total control of a material that was a vehicle for him and didn't need much else to do. He appeared as a naval commander in a TV movie, afterwards, however. That was his final role as he retired after that.

    I only saw the pilot and a few episodes, but I thought that in the pilot he was such a Mary Sue. Everybody was in awe of McGarrett, including the badguys.
  • TR007TR007
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    It’s strange that they didn’t sign Lord for multiple movies when they got him for Dr No.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited December 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    CrabKey said:
    Cool, co-billing, I need more money Jack Lord went on to......?

    That's a joke, right? (Forgive me, sometimes it's hard to tell...) Jack Lord went on to stardom in his own right on the original version of Hawaii Five-0. "Book him, Danno!"

    Actually, no, it isn't a joke. Beyond Hawaii Five-O, what did JL do?
    That's the thing. He didn't do anything. He had found what he wanted to do with Hawaii Five-O, owning shares of the show as well (if you noticed, the show has always been about him and the rest were all his Yes Men, which was at times laughably obvious, yet it wasn't cringeworthy). He had total control of a material that was a vehicle for him and didn't need much else to do. He appeared as a naval commander in a TV movie, afterwards, however. That was his final role as he retired after that.
    I only saw the pilot and a few episodes, but I thought that in the pilot he was such a Mary Sue. Everybody was in awe of McGarrett, including the badguys.
    Pretty much. McGarrett was always a Mary Sue.
    TR007 wrote: »
    It’s strange that they didn’t sign Lord for multiple movies when they got him for Dr No.
    Considering the hell they went through during the production and the problems in its duration, they weren't even sure the franchise would continue after Dr. No, so its future was pretty much in doubt. Only Connery had the multiple picture deal contract signed. Jack Lord himself was also dissatisfied, I read somewhere, as there were lots of inconveniences on his part as well as the crew.
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,500
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    CrabKey said:
    Cool, co-billing, I need more money Jack Lord went on to......?

    That's a joke, right? (Forgive me, sometimes it's hard to tell...) Jack Lord went on to stardom in his own right on the original version of Hawaii Five-0. "Book him, Danno!"

    Actually, no, it isn't a joke. Beyond Hawaii Five-O, what did JL do?
    That's the thing. He didn't do anything. He had found what he wanted to do with Hawaii Five-O, owning shares of the show as well (if you noticed, the show has always been about him and the rest were all his Yes Men, which was at times laughably obvious, yet it wasn't cringeworthy). He had total control of a material that was a vehicle for him and didn't need much else to do. He appeared as a naval commander in a TV movie, afterwards, however. That was his final role as he retired after that.
    I only saw the pilot and a few episodes, but I thought that in the pilot he was such a Mary Sue. Everybody was in awe of McGarrett, including the badguys.
    Pretty much. McGarrett was always a Mary Sue.
    TR007 wrote: »
    It’s strange that they didn’t sign Lord for multiple movies when they got him for Dr No.
    Considering the hell they went through during the production and the problems in its duration, they weren't even sure the franchise would continue after Dr. No, so its future was pretty much in doubt. Only Connery had the multiple picture deal contract signed. Jack Lord himself was also dissatisfied, I read somewhere, as there were lots of inconveniences on his part as well as the crew.


    Apparently there was an issue with salary as well.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    jobo wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    CrabKey said:
    Cool, co-billing, I need more money Jack Lord went on to......?

    That's a joke, right? (Forgive me, sometimes it's hard to tell...) Jack Lord went on to stardom in his own right on the original version of Hawaii Five-0. "Book him, Danno!"

    Actually, no, it isn't a joke. Beyond Hawaii Five-O, what did JL do?
    That's the thing. He didn't do anything. He had found what he wanted to do with Hawaii Five-O, owning shares of the show as well (if you noticed, the show has always been about him and the rest were all his Yes Men, which was at times laughably obvious, yet it wasn't cringeworthy). He had total control of a material that was a vehicle for him and didn't need much else to do. He appeared as a naval commander in a TV movie, afterwards, however. That was his final role as he retired after that.
    I only saw the pilot and a few episodes, but I thought that in the pilot he was such a Mary Sue. Everybody was in awe of McGarrett, including the badguys.
    Pretty much. McGarrett was always a Mary Sue.
    TR007 wrote: »
    It’s strange that they didn’t sign Lord for multiple movies when they got him for Dr No.
    Considering the hell they went through during the production and the problems in its duration, they weren't even sure the franchise would continue after Dr. No, so its future was pretty much in doubt. Only Connery had the multiple picture deal contract signed. Jack Lord himself was also dissatisfied, I read somewhere, as there were lots of inconveniences on his part as well as the crew.
    Apparently there was an issue with salary as well.
    As well as the billing. With Goldfinger, Lord wanted an equal billing and screentime with that of Connery's, which is ridiculous.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Sometimes in nature, a wild Felix tends to multiply into multiple Felix's. :D
  • jobojobo
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    CrabKey said:
    Cool, co-billing, I need more money Jack Lord went on to......?

    That's a joke, right? (Forgive me, sometimes it's hard to tell...) Jack Lord went on to stardom in his own right on the original version of Hawaii Five-0. "Book him, Danno!"

    Actually, no, it isn't a joke. Beyond Hawaii Five-O, what did JL do?
    That's the thing. He didn't do anything. He had found what he wanted to do with Hawaii Five-O, owning shares of the show as well (if you noticed, the show has always been about him and the rest were all his Yes Men, which was at times laughably obvious, yet it wasn't cringeworthy). He had total control of a material that was a vehicle for him and didn't need much else to do. He appeared as a naval commander in a TV movie, afterwards, however. That was his final role as he retired after that.
    I only saw the pilot and a few episodes, but I thought that in the pilot he was such a Mary Sue. Everybody was in awe of McGarrett, including the badguys.
    Pretty much. McGarrett was always a Mary Sue.
    TR007 wrote: »
    It’s strange that they didn’t sign Lord for multiple movies when they got him for Dr No.
    Considering the hell they went through during the production and the problems in its duration, they weren't even sure the franchise would continue after Dr. No, so its future was pretty much in doubt. Only Connery had the multiple picture deal contract signed. Jack Lord himself was also dissatisfied, I read somewhere, as there were lots of inconveniences on his part as well as the crew.
    Apparently there was an issue with salary as well.
    As well as the billing. With Goldfinger, Lord wanted an equal billing and screentime with that of Connery's, which is ridiculous.


    Wow! I didn't know that. ;))
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,102
    Felix Leiter in the films is kind of a wasted more often than not useless character anyway...
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    As well as the billing. With Goldfinger, Lord wanted an equal billing and screentime with that of Connery's, which is ridiculous.

    Interesting, I always thought that he is almost as cool as Sean in Dr. No.
    That scene with Bond, Felix, Querrel and Puss Feller in the warehouse is one of the most humorous in the whole franchise.

  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,500
    QQ7 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    As well as the billing. With Goldfinger, Lord wanted an equal billing and screentime with that of Connery's, which is ridiculous.

    Interesting, I always thought that he is almost as cool as Sean in Dr. No.
    That scene with Bond, Felix, Querrel and Puss Feller in the warehouse is one of the most humorous in the whole franchise.


    Jack Lord almost matched Sean in charisma and swagger, I agree. He and Wright are the only Felixes that almost felt like Bond's equal.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    jobo wrote: »
    QQ7 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    As well as the billing. With Goldfinger, Lord wanted an equal billing and screentime with that of Connery's, which is ridiculous.

    Interesting, I always thought that he is almost as cool as Sean in Dr. No.
    That scene with Bond, Felix, Querrel and Puss Feller in the warehouse is one of the most humorous in the whole franchise.


    Jack Lord almost matched Sean in charisma and swagger, I agree. He and Wright are the only Felixes that almost felt like Bond's equal.

    I agree with both of you and recently said so in my Bondathon-- that Lord was almost as cool as Connery.

    I also agree that he and Wright do feel like Bond's equal (but not enough to throw shade on the big man, lol)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    In spite of his faults, I still do appreciate Jack Lord as an actor a lot. He definitely had screen charisma whenever he appeared, and holds up rather well as a convincing man of stature even as a supporting character, which is why he is my favourite Felix Leiter. His swagger, like you chaps said and agreed upon, matched that of Connery’s.

    The same can be said with that of Wright’s and Craig’s, as they do suit each other in the roles, both making very convincing covert operatives who could just as well pull the trigger on a target and worry about it later.

    - - -
    Regarding Lord as Felix in Goldfinger, I really can’t grasp how did he think he’d fare with a shoehorned equal screentime with Connery. The story would have been to awfully changed and the drafts rewritten that would alienate the screenplay from its source material farther than imaginable. I wonder if that was the reason Lord later appeared in his own spy thriller film called The Counterfeit Killer (which I haven’t seen since it’s not available on home media format at all). I’ve got to hand it to him, though. After several years of trying, he did get the screen franchise he always wanted to control the sandbox of it in his favour.
  • Escalus5Escalus5
    edited December 2018 Posts: 614
    Jack Lord also starred in the 1968 feature THE NAME OF THE GAME IS KILL, one of the most bizarre and entertaining psychological thrillers that I've ever seen. Lord plays a Hungarian (!) hitchhiking through Arizona who finds himself caught up in the antics of three very weird sisters. For decades this film was difficult to see, existing only in lousy bootlegs, but it was finally released on DVD and has developed something of a cult following.

    Highly recommended.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 14,816
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    Jack Lord also starred in the 1968 feature THE NAME OF THE GAME IS KILL, one of the most bizarre and entertaining psychological thrillers that I've ever seen. Lord plays a Hungarian (!) hitchhiking through Arizona who finds himself caught up in the antics of three very weird sisters. For decades this film was difficult to see, existing only in lousy bootlegs, but it was finally released on DVD and has developed something of a cult following.

    Highly recommended.

    Sounds like the Scottish Play.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    echo wrote: »
    Cec Linder is da bomb.

    Wouldn't happen to be Norwegian by any chance?
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I want Matthew McConaughey to take over as Felix.

    ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT.

    I've long thought McConaughey would make a great Felix. He looks similar to how I picture Leiter in the books, plus he's got that thick Texan drawl and he can easily pull off being jokey or down-to-business. I doubt he'd do it at this point in his career, but I'd be thrilled if he was the Felix to the next Bond. Can't think of more perfect casting, really.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Cec Linder is da bomb.

    Wouldn't happen to be Norwegian by any chance?

    He is just from the Echochamber.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Connery: 5/7 films feature Leiter, played by five different actors.
    Moore: 1/7 films features Leiter
    Dalton: Both films feature Leiter, played by two different actors, the second of which was Moore Bond s Leiter.
    Craig:3/5 films feature Leiter, this time played by the same actor.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Connery: 5/7 films feature Leiter, played by five different actors.
    Moore: 1/7 films features Leiter
    Dalton: Both films feature Leiter, played by two different actors, the second of which was Moore Bond s Leiter.
    Craig:3/5 films feature Leiter, this time played by the same actor.

    Interesting statistics when you write it out like that. I think the Moore era could have done with a few more appearances for Leiter. TMWTGG could have featured Leiter in particular as he appeared in the original Fleming novel.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Connery: 5/7 films feature Leiter, played by five different actors.
    Moore: 1/7 films features Leiter
    Dalton: Both films feature Leiter, played by two different actors, the second of which was Moore Bond s Leiter.
    Craig:3/5 films feature Leiter, this time played by the same actor.

    Interesting statistics when you write it out like that. I think the Moore era could have done with a few more appearances for Leiter. TMWTGG could have featured Leiter in particular as he appeared in the original Fleming novel.
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Connery: 5/7 films feature Leiter, played by five different actors.
    Moore: 1/7 films features Leiter
    Dalton: Both films feature Leiter, played by two different actors, the second of which was Moore Bond s Leiter.
    Craig:3/5 films feature Leiter, this time played by the same actor.

    Interesting statistics when you write it out like that. I think the Moore era could have done with a few more appearances for Leiter. TMWTGG could have featured Leiter in particular as he appeared in the original Fleming novel.

    Yes, and he would fit in in AVTAK as well, as so much of it takes place in the US.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Connery: 5/7 films feature Leiter, played by five different actors.
    Moore: 1/7 films features Leiter
    Dalton: Both films feature Leiter, played by two different actors, the second of which was Moore Bond s Leiter.
    Craig:3/5 films feature Leiter, this time played by the same actor.
    And Felix is mentioned the dialog of a 4th Craig Bond film.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    I wouldn't mind if Felix worked actively (as opposed to being in the background) with Bond in a future film. Instead of the 'scooby gang' we got in Spectre.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    It was always thought the Felix shouldn't upstage Bond. The Leiter's in GF and DAF show how the producers wanted Bond to the be focus and star! TB with McClory chose a good Leiter in Van Nutter. Weird that Leiter went away for most of Moore's movies. I think MR and AVTAK could have added him. But I guess they wanted Lee has a sacrificial lamb instead of the CIA contact living to see another day.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited July 2019 Posts: 4,102
    He realistically should have been in GE, instead of Jack Wade. Pierce Brosnan needed a Felix and that would have been the best place for him. He could still function, with fake limbs. It could have shown that Bond still had a friend in the world, after Alec's downturn.
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