Bond film ranking tournament. MR vs QOS and QOS vs SF

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  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    Yes, let the person running the game run their game.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    Posts: 651
    FRWL and QoS

    (as much as I like and love OHMSS also)
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    I do not accept that I shouldn't be shocked at a member of this forum ranking mr or dad above frwl

    I'm with you mate.

    'I'm entitled to my opinion' The last refuge of the scoundrel to be honest.
    GBF wrote: »
    Let's move on to the next. Couldn't we insert an automatic end when the score is 10:0? We could also make it like a football league so that each round each film has to play against another film. Then it would only be 24 weeks :-)

    The premier league has only 20 teams (films) and that takes 38 weeks.

    24 would probably stretch to nearer 45 or so.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    edited December 2017 Posts: 2,759
    I don't think anyone said they were entitled to their opinion. People simply followed the rules of the game and chose their favorite between the two films and in retaliation, there was a post saying their choices were an "atrocity" and "outrage". To which a few of us responded by asking how someone can get so triggered by someone else's preferences, though we are honored you care so much about our opinion :)

    People's preferences and tastes change over time as well. Heck, 2 of my top 5 were in my bottom 5 when I was younger.

    Anywho, to avoid any shock or disbelief in the future... my top 5 are MR, TLD, LALD, CR, FRWL. So don't expect any of them to get beat often when I post!
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    I get so sick of that crap. People watch these films for a variety of reasons, and with various criteria in mind.
  • OHMSS and FRWL seem pretty clear to me.
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 789
    No. If someone prefers a pile of crap like die another day over a masterpiece like from russia wuth love, one of the very best films in the history of the genre, I will respect their opinion to be sure, but it has no value. In the unlikely event that they somehow sucessfully justify their opinion I will recognize that, but in this case I don't see how that's possible.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    FRWL vs. DAD is a no-brainer (imho).

    But OHMSS vs. QoS is tough (for me):

    Overall atmosphere: OHMSS
    Action sequences: Undecided (both are top notch)
    Story: OHMSS
    Bond Actor: QoS
    Soundtrack: Undecided (to me QoS is Arnold's best)
    Bond girl: Undecided (I just love the Camille character but Tracy also ...)
    Villain: OHMSS
    Best scene: QoS (Tosca)

    In the end for me it's Craig vs. Lazenby and Craig wins. In the end this is something I could not really decide upon to be honest

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    As much as I like QoS, I'd have to give all those categories to OHMSS, except possibly action. The best scene for me between them is either the ski chase or Tracy's death. The action and soundtrack are top notch in both.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    The soundtrack was surprisingly good when I rewatched QoS but OHMSS is just on another level.
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    The soundtrack was surprisingly good when I rewatched QoS but OHMSS is just on another level.

    Exactly. OHMSS boasts the greatest soundtrack of the whole series. QoS could make my Top 10 soundtracks though.
  • GBFGBF
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    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    I do not accept that I shouldn't be shocked at a member of this forum ranking mr or dad above frwl

    I'm with you mate.

    'I'm entitled to my opinion' The last refuge of the scoundrel to be honest.
    GBF wrote: »
    Let's move on to the next. Couldn't we insert an automatic end when the score is 10:0? We could also make it like a football league so that each round each film has to play against another film. Then it would only be 24 weeks :-)

    The premier league has only 20 teams (films) and that takes 38 weeks.

    24 would probably stretch to nearer 45 or so.

    Maybe that is because they play against each other twice in the PL. Films, however, only need to play against each other once.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 2,899
    Birdleson is right however. I did not intend to change any rule. Just thought about giving a hint to make the game a bit quicker .... That, however, has to be decided by the host of this thread...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger The out of control room.
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    SeanCraig wrote: »
    FRWL vs. DAD is a no-brainer (imho).

    But OHMSS vs. QoS is tough (for me):

    Overall atmosphere: OHMSS
    Action sequences: Undecided (both are top notch)
    Story: OHMSS
    Bond Actor: QoS
    Soundtrack: Undecided (to me QoS is Arnold's best)
    Bond girl: Undecided (I just love the Camille character but Tracy also ...)
    Villain: OHMSS
    Best scene: QoS (Tosca)

    In the end for me it's Craig vs. Lazenby and Craig wins. In the end this is something I could not really decide upon to be honest

    I am a bit confused. Is it OHMSS, or is it a tie? Which is fair enough.

    And this round is FRWL vs MR, FRWL vs DAD hasn t been done yet. People were just eager to get worked up in advance over hypothetical future votes. Ha ha, if people slam you for your opinion, just laugh it off. I am prepared for that myself during a few GE rounds to come up later.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    It‘s QoS over OHMSS by a narrow margin for me due to Craig over Lazenby
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger The out of control room.
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    And I assume you prefer FRWL over MR as well?
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    Posts: 651
    And I assume you prefer FRWL over MR as well?

    Absolutely.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger The out of control room.
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    Unsurprisingly, yet another beating done by the 60s films, and the biggest yet. Might as well get a few of those out of the way.

    FRWL beats MR 28-4

    OHMSS beats QOS 29-3


    Round 5:

    YOLT vs MR

    and

    OHMSS vs OP
  • Posts: 9,193
    YOLT over MR - Comfortable win for YOLT here. YOLT isn't a Top 10 entry for me, but I still think it's good and definitely superior to MR, which is right at the bottom of my ranking.

    OHMSS over OP - IMO: OP is a good Bond film, but OHMSS is a great one. OHMSS will beat everything except CR for me in this tournament.
  • GBFGBF
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    YOLT over MR

    OHMSS over OP
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    First tricky decision. Both YOLT and MR are so similar in story and style, and they both have some of the same strengths and weaknesses. YOLT wins, by the skin of it's teeth for me. I usually rank it higher and feel I should be consistent, although MR is superior on certain elements like the villain and humor.

    The other one is easy of course. OHMSS all the way!
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 26,958
    YOLT by a huge margin,
    OHMSS by a very large margin.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belgium
    Posts: 3,639
    Birdleson wrote: »
    YOLT by a huge margin,
    OHMSS by a very large margin.

    Seconded.
  • barryt007barryt007 With Bond and M in Tokyo,having an interesting experience.
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    YOLT beats MR easily.
    OHMSS beats OP but OP is one of my favourite Bond films.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger The out of control room.
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    I agree with the rest here.
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
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    YOLT and OHMSS
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2017 Posts: 23,883
    This is a little tougher round than the last one.

    YOLT vs MR - tough choice actually. I enjoy both of Gilbert's mega blockbusters. They are both visually incredible and epic in scope and concept. I believe Roger Moore more readily fits into these sort of approaches and films and there are a lot of elements of MR (particularly the humour) that I much prefer to YOLT. The earlier half of both films are incredibly atmospheric and stylish. YOLT by a hair.

    OHMSS vs OP - I enjoy both for different reasons, because they are such different types of Bond films. OHMSS takes it for its Fleming plot, beautiful cinematography and 60's vibe, but OP puts up a close fight on account of Roger's performance, the overall charisma/entertainment value of the film, and the great villain roster.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited December 2017 Posts: 16,962
    YOLT vs MR: MR, by a very narrow margin. I know it's blasphemous and all that but there are simply more things in YOLT that trouble me. At least in MR, our James Bond was with us.

    OHMSS vs OP: OHMSS, no-brainer.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited December 2017 Posts: 9,117
    Finally a bit of a contest.

    YOLT v MR - MR: The most outlandish Connery film v the most outlandish Moore film. It's exceedingly close but if you're going for an outlandish romp then the man you want with his hand on the tiller to guide you effortlessly through is Rog every time. This sort of film really isn't Sean's forte even if he could be arsed and apart from the laser battle I think there is more scientific accuracy in the space shuttles than SPECTRE's re-entry vehicle (not to mention hollowing out a volcano). The first half of YOLT is a bit plodding too (the wedding scene goes on forever) and whilst the last act smashes it out of the park MR has done enough in the first half (staggering PTS, centrifuge, Corinne's death, museum fight) to hang on for all the ludicrousness of the final space denouement (the effects and Barry's score holding off a sustained YOLT attack). They both put it all up on the screen but, whilst Bond probably really shouldn't go into space, MR has the cojones to slap it's cock down on the table and say 'Get a load of that' and you simply have to admire such chutzpah.

    OHMSS v OP - OHMSS: A hard decision but I'm not going to one of these 'I am entitled to my opinion' cretins and deliberately be obtuse for the sake of it. I adore OP and for sheer entertainment it really can't be beaten and once Bond arrives in Germany we have a sequence till the bomb is defused to rival anythng in the series. But you can't overlook the fact that OHMSS is purest 100% proof Bond and that's going to be very tough for anyone to beat.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    edited December 2017 Posts: 1,984
    I actually prefer MR over YOLT. But OHMSS over OP, as much as I like the latter.
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