Lady Diana Spencer, Princess of Wales - In Memoriam of August 31, 1997

PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
As someone who was born in 1995, I have not a memory of Diana's death, but I've watched so much newsreel footage of the flowers at the gates of Buckngham Palace that I feel like I do, and the event is no less tragic. In thinking of the title for this thread, I came across this fragment of In Memoriam A.H.H. by Alfred, Lord Tennyson that I feel applies to England's Rose wonderfully.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.


And who can forget Elton John's "Candle in the Wind 1997?"



I received this yesterday: DHCv4UzUIAAUuQN.jpg

Since it's been 20 years from now, I hope you all take a moment to remember Diana.

I'd like to end this post with a photo from happier times.

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What do YOU remember about Diana?
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  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,354
    Here's a neat poem by Lewis Hamilton:

    The day we lost our Nations Rose
    Tears we cried like rivers flowed,
    The earth stood still
    As we laid her to rest,
    A day you & I
    Will never forget
    The people's princess
    Who came to see,
    The love from a Country
    We'd hope she'd lead,
    Englands beauty
    Captured in one sweet soul,
    Carried the torch
    God rest her soul,
    With the gift she had
    She'd light up the way,
    With a smile to show us a brighter day,
    Hearts still full
    of the love she gave,
    20 years since she laid in her grave
    There will never be another like you,
    Now a shinning star in the midnight sky
    I will always remember you,
    Princess Diana
    As our sweet nations Rose
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  • RC7RC7
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    patb wrote: »

    Classic. I'm literally just watching Comedy Vehicle again.
  • edited September 2017 Posts: 3,839
    The poem is very interesting for many reasons and I'm still trying to work out if it's genuine (I dont want it to be). I used to be a fan of F1 and my favourite driver was/is James Hunt. He represents the opposite of Hamilton in so many ways. Too busy boozing and bonking to write poetry is perhaps a cliche but also true.

    Graham Hill also an amazing chap. Perhaps the cultural transfomation of our F1 drivers is a metaphor for our wider changing values. From plain speaking men who had the "Right Stuff to jewellery wearing, poets who get misty eyed over the death (when he was 12?) of someone who stupidly did not wear a seat belt.

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    LADY DIANA

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    I was in bed on the morning ,a sunday i think,i was 27 ,just married,2 tiny kiddies,and my sister phoned up and spoke to my wife ,who passed the phone to me.

    My sister said that she had to call me as Lady Diana had died but she had a terribly vivid and real dream that I had died ,so she was double distraught...i still remember that moment clear as day.

    A weird,spooky,personal and surreal moment.
  • edited September 2017 Posts: 747
    Couldn't sleep so I put the radio on to help me doze.

    I heard the first radio bulletin saying dodi fayed had died. Followed a few hours later by the news Diana had died too.

    What I remember is that she wasn't particularly popular at the time. Everyone including the public was clamouring for dirt.
    In the months leading up to her death she was ridiculed and praised in equal measure for her "queen of hearts" speech, her landline charity, appearing at a heart surgery wearing full eye make up - Julia carling poked fun at her for this on tv. People forget they consumed every bit of crap about her.

    Personally I didn't have an opinion in her either way. It's tragic that two boys lost their mother, and yes I got a lump in my throat at the pageantry and sense of occasion of her funeral, but I have always found the mass hysteria in the week following her death a fascinating social group phenomenon. It was ridiculous and looking back an embarrassing reaction that has ushered in our unecessary grief porn world.

    My mate told me a joke a few days later when mother Teresa died. He said Elton John had recorded a charity record for her. Called "sandals in the bin."

    I thought it was funny.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    I was in bed on the morning ,a sunday i think,i was 27 ,just married,2 tiny kiddies,and my sister phoned up and spoke to my wife ,who passed the phone to me.

    My sister said that she had to call me as Lady Diana had died but she had a terribly vivid and real dream that I had died ,so she was double distraught...i still remember that moment clear as day.

    A weird,spooky,personal and surreal moment.

    Oh, that's very scary stuff. Many stories are like that where people awake in the night as other relatives are dying. Most often, it's also accompanied by a dream.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    edited September 2017 Posts: 3,354
    Matt007 wrote: »
    Couldn't sleep so I put the radio on to help me doze.

    I heard the first radio bulletin saying dodi fayed had died. Followed a few hours later by the news Diana had died too.

    What I remember is that she wasn't particularly popular at the time. Everyone including the public was clamouring for dirt.
    In the months leading up to her death she was ridiculed and praised in equal measure for her "queen of hearts" speech, her landline charity, appearing at a heart surgery wearing full eye make up - Julia carling poked fun at her for this on tv. People forget they consumed every bit of crap about her.

    Personally I didn't have an opinion in her either way. It's tragic that two boys lost their mother, and yes I got a lump in my throat at the pageantry and sense of occasion of her funeral, but I have always found the mass hysteria in the week following her death a fascinating social group phenomenon. It was ridiculous and looking back an embarrassing reaction that has ushered in our unecessary grief porn world.

    My mate told me a joke a few days later when mother Teresa died. He said Elton John had recorded a charity record for her. Called "sandals in the bin."

    I thought it was funny.

    What the heck is a grief porn world? Also, the media just wouldn't let the poor woman alone. They WERE clamouring for dirt, you're right. A few headlines from People between 1991 and 1997:

    Home Alone
    Diana's Rival
    It's Over
    Diana On Her Own
    Battle For the Boys
    Diana's Lonely Battle
    Diana's Daring New Life
    Diana on the Edge
    Diana's Secret Lover
    Diana & Camilla [Camilla Parker Bowles]
    Diana's Revenge: Take That!
    Di-Vorce! (That one's just bad)
    A Guy for Di
    Goodbye, Diana

    It's, to me, anyway - a few of you may think differently - a very sad situation that she had to be stalked by the press 24/7. Why? Like I said before, leave her alone. One must wonder if August 31 1997 would've turned out differently as the Mercedes-Benz drove safely through the Alma Tunnel if the press wasn't following them.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    It's my understanding that she rejected her Royal security detail a little bit prior to death. If that is true, it was a mistake. They were there for a reason, and she was, as has been noted, one of the most famous people in the world at the time.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    bondjames wrote: »
    It's my understanding that she rejected her Royal security detail a little bit prior to death. If that is true, it was a mistake. They were there for a reason, and she was, as has been noted, one of the most famous people in the world at the time.

    I think I read that somewhere too. I don't know why she did. I would've kept it if I were her.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2017 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's my understanding that she rejected her Royal security detail a little bit prior to death. If that is true, it was a mistake. They were there for a reason, and she was, as has been noted, one of the most famous people in the world at the time.

    I think I read that somewhere too. I don't know why she did. I would've kept it if I were her.
    Trust was probably broken. She likely thought they would be reporting back on her activities, which she may have felt the Queen would have found unsavoury.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's my understanding that she rejected her Royal security detail a little bit prior to death. If that is true, it was a mistake. They were there for a reason, and she was, as has been noted, one of the most famous people in the world at the time.

    I think I read that somewhere too. I don't know why she did. I would've kept it if I were her.
    Trust was probably broken. She likely thought they would be reporting back on her activities, which she may have felt the Queen would have found unsavoury.

    Didn't the Royal Family dislike her immensely?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's my understanding that she rejected her Royal security detail a little bit prior to death. If that is true, it was a mistake. They were there for a reason, and she was, as has been noted, one of the most famous people in the world at the time.

    I think I read that somewhere too. I don't know why she did. I would've kept it if I were her.
    Trust was probably broken. She likely thought they would be reporting back on her activities, which she may have felt the Queen would have found unsavoury.

    Didn't the Royal Family dislike her immensely?

    No,there was a 'quiet' admiration for her,as she was a fantastic mother to the 2 boys ,and her humanitarian work,especially in the mine fields was brilliant.

    Charles is as much if not more to blame for the break-up,Camilla even more so,as they knew eachother before Diana.

    But as in any Royal break-up,the Prince will always be backed by the Royal Family.. (apart from Edward VIII of course but he was a pratt and a was going to be a Hitler puppet-king if the Nazi's won the war ).

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's my understanding that she rejected her Royal security detail a little bit prior to death. If that is true, it was a mistake. They were there for a reason, and she was, as has been noted, one of the most famous people in the world at the time.

    I think I read that somewhere too. I don't know why she did. I would've kept it if I were her.
    Trust was probably broken. She likely thought they would be reporting back on her activities, which she may have felt the Queen would have found unsavoury.

    Didn't the Royal Family dislike her immensely?
    I didn't pay too much attention to it at the time. Bottom line is they are a very conservative, prim and proper family, for obvious reasons given the station they hold. She soaked up all of the energy and brought a lot of unwanted attention on them. Palace intrigue and that sort of thing.

    I can't imagine they were too happy but I don't know if it was bad as some made out. You know the press and their penchant for picking favourites, exaggerating and portraying things in a one sided fashion.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Here's a neat poem by Lewis Hamilton:

    The day we lost our Nations Rose
    Tears we cried like rivers flowed,
    The earth stood still
    As we laid her to rest,
    A day you & I
    Will never forget
    The people's princess
    Who came to see,
    The love from a Country
    We'd hope she'd lead,
    Englands beauty
    Captured in one sweet soul,
    Carried the torch
    God rest her soul,
    With the gift she had
    She'd light up the way,
    With a smile to show us a brighter day,
    Hearts still full
    of the love she gave,
    20 years since she laid in her grave
    There will never be another like you,
    Now a shinning star in the midnight sky
    I will always remember you,
    Princess Diana
    As our sweet nations Rose

    Priceless.

    Perhaps his PR advised him his British fans still had the hump from his no show at that event in London so they came up with this masteplan as nothing gets the Great British public onside more than some maudlin spewings about Diana.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,262
    Here's a neat poem by Lewis Hamilton:

    The day we lost our Nations Rose
    Tears we cried like rivers flowed,
    The earth stood still
    As we laid her to rest,
    A day you & I
    Will never forget
    The people's princess
    Who came to see,
    The love from a Country
    We'd hope she'd lead,
    Englands beauty
    Captured in one sweet soul,
    Carried the torch
    God rest her soul,
    With the gift she had
    She'd light up the way,
    With a smile to show us a brighter day,
    Hearts still full
    of the love she gave,
    20 years since she laid in her grave
    There will never be another like you,
    Now a shinning star in the midnight sky
    I will always remember you,
    Princess Diana
    As our sweet nations Rose

    Priceless.

    Perhaps his PR advised him his British fans still had the hump from his no show at that event in London so they came up with this masteplan as nothing gets the Great British public onside more than some maudlin spewings about Diana.

    This will haunt him forever. The moment Hamilton went Partridge.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I am done. I've tried to save this thread, but it appears you people just want to bash her. Bash away. I'll change the title to The Diana Bashing Thread.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    RC7 wrote: »
    Here's a neat poem by Lewis Hamilton:

    The day we lost our Nations Rose
    Tears we cried like rivers flowed,
    The earth stood still
    As we laid her to rest,
    A day you & I
    Will never forget
    The people's princess
    Who came to see,
    The love from a Country
    We'd hope she'd lead,
    Englands beauty
    Captured in one sweet soul,
    Carried the torch
    God rest her soul,
    With the gift she had
    She'd light up the way,
    With a smile to show us a brighter day,
    Hearts still full
    of the love she gave,
    20 years since she laid in her grave
    There will never be another like you,
    Now a shinning star in the midnight sky
    I will always remember you,
    Princess Diana
    As our sweet nations Rose

    Priceless.

    Perhaps his PR advised him his British fans still had the hump from his no show at that event in London so they came up with this masteplan as nothing gets the Great British public onside more than some maudlin spewings about Diana.

    This will haunt him forever. The moment Hamilton went Partridge.

    Genuinely just sent my mate a text with a link to this drivel and the comment 'Veritably Partridge-esque.'

    I love the way he drives on the track but off it the guy really is a monumental cock.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited September 2017 Posts: 9,021
    Show some bloody respect. If you can't say anything nice then just stay silent.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Here's a neat poem by Lewis Hamilton:

    The day we lost our Nations Rose
    Tears we cried like rivers flowed,
    The earth stood still
    As we laid her to rest,
    A day you & I
    Will never forget
    The people's princess
    Who came to see,
    The love from a Country
    We'd hope she'd lead,
    Englands beauty
    Captured in one sweet soul,
    Carried the torch
    God rest her soul,
    With the gift she had
    She'd light up the way,
    With a smile to show us a brighter day,
    Hearts still full
    of the love she gave,
    20 years since she laid in her grave
    There will never be another like you,
    Now a shinning star in the midnight sky
    I will always remember you,
    Princess Diana
    As our sweet nations Rose

    Priceless.

    Perhaps his PR advised him his British fans still had the hump from his no show at that event in London so they came up with this masteplan as nothing gets the Great British public onside more than some maudlin spewings about Diana.

    This will haunt him forever. The moment Hamilton went Partridge.

    Genuinely just sent my mate a text with a link to this drivel and the comment 'Veritably Partridge-esque.'

    I love the way he drives on the track but off it the guy really is a monumental cock.

    He's in that cabal of 'celebrities' (along with Madonna), who my mate defines as having 'no one to tell them they're a c***'.
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    @PropertyOfALady I havent bashed her personally,but you must expect this.
    She was/is a contraversial figure,so you have to accept both good and bad remarks.

    She was not the angel she was depicted to be so you have to make allowances,matey.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    I guess on MI6 we must expect such a thing, yes.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    If this was a General Diana thread? Fine. But really, a thread about her death and all people can say is how horrible she is?!

    That's not right.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited September 2017 Posts: 17,240
    There's always going to be a mixed response to political figures, dead or alive, so we can understand the folks who brought a critical voice here.

    We can also understand @PropertyOfALady 's wish that Diana be only honoured in this thread.

    As far as the mod team is concerned, no rules were broken. At the moment, we see absolutely no reason to close this thread. Respecting the original poster's feelings in the matter, we can at best politely suggest that stronger opinions about Diana be taken to one of our political threads. And we thank you all in advance for taking this into consideration.
  • edited September 2017 Posts: 747


    What the heck is a grief porn world?

    Its McDonald's making adverts to sell using a child dead dad to tweak our emotional buttons

    It's countless examples of people going on 'journeys,' making empty emotional statements a mile wide and an inch deep.

    I just think Diana's death Got way out of hand and most people I know feel the same way. It's a tragedy when anyone dies particularly for the two boys who I really do feel for.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Thank you for the explanation and the article.
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