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Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited March 2016 Posts: 9,020
    Well, I could have bet the Spoiler Allowed thread I have opened will get closed by Benny.

    Good then, I will not hold back on spoilers in here anymore, of course in spoiler tags, will be funny to see posts and posts in spoiler tags, and I am not responsible if someone accidentally doesn't use them.

    EDIT: On second thought forget it, it's not worth the bother, I start a private discussion group for openly discussing BvS, anyone interested can pm me, the ones I know are interested will get a message shortly.
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,779
    I loved every minute of it it was fantastic and I might rank it above begins also who ever said there was no humor in the film must have never watched it because there were a few funny. Moments will elaborate more later but honestly it was smazing
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    It was I who said there was no humour. People laughed at Luthor a few times, but I didn t .

    This film takes a lot of inspiration from the graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns and the animated feature film Superman:Doomsday, so humour wasn t really expected.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited March 2016 Posts: 5,185
    Found a great quote in a BvS review and i wholeheartedly agree:

    "This movie is a rock opera, massive in scale and scope of its ambition. It paints its characters large, its themes are overblown, its visuals are lush and at times make no sense. But that doesn’t matter, because you’re meant to experience it with your heart, not your head."

    I haven't analized this movie yet, 3 days after i watched it and i still think its amazing. I will probably watch it again this week.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2016 Posts: 15,691
    I may have been a bit harsh but I'd give it a solid 8/10. Affleck is tremendous, Gadot is very sexyful, Cavill is still wooden but is improving, Irons is a a great addition, the action scenes are fantastic (especially a shootout/car chase in the middle of the film), and seeing the famous scene that was in the final trailer (Batman demolishing all those bad guys) had me fisting the air in celebration. The final battle is basically CGI and explosion porn, but still quite exciting. The only (big) problem is Eisenberg.
  • Risico007Risico007
    edited March 2016 Posts: 9,779
    My thoughts warning mayor spoilers in every way shape and form
    I figure bullet pointing everything I will give a more I depth review after seeing it a few times

    1. My comment about the humor is well it's like quantum of solace you will either get it and laugh or not the exchange between Lane and Perry about doc was hilarious to me . Alfred had multiple great lines there was a ton of humor was it as in your face as say batman & robin no but it's subtle it's there and I love it

    2. KGbeast is in the film I am so happy the fact that they included a batman villain and such an obscure one is so cool honestly. Oddly enough when I was developing my own idea for a future batman film after dark knight rises the villians I wanted or thought of KGBeast and The reaper and I was at least half right

    3. Luther was actually really good swarmy creepy and paranoid and his scheme wasn't real estate based for the first time ever in films..

    4. Superman is still learning I guess I am not a huge superman fan but I thought he was fine

    5. Affleck may be the best batman period honestly I wish dc got their act together an grabbed him pre daredevil and get him for like 6-8 films but oh well. The opening scene till the end affleck has command of the film and is amazing

    6. I love the way that batman basically wins because come on how cool is that

    7. Superman death bothers me we all know he is coming back for justice league so while it's emotional it's not super amazing because he is coming back and that kind of upsets me.

    Overall the movie is amazing I need to see it a few more times my only fear now is due to critics reaction Affleck and Johns will play it safe and do another batman versus joker film
  • mepal1mepal1
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    I'am confused coz members here say the film is pretty good, yet the critics say the film is utter shite. Who is right, and why such a huge difference of opinion?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,691
    Looks like BvS is heading for an opening weekend of atleast $170 million.
  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
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    Saw it last night. I thought it was ok. I didn't like the way the story was told - too many short scenes and they didn't flowed well into one another. I also didn't like how the BvS fight began and ended. Didn't really understand Lex's motivations at times. Too long and some stuff shoehorned in.
  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
    Posts: 543
    Saw it last night. I thought it was ok. I didn't like the way the story was told - too many short scenes and they didn't flowed well into one another. I also didn't like how the BvS fight began and ended. Didn't really understand Lex's motivations at times. Too long and some stuff shoehorned in.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,691
    Nevermind Luthor's motivation - why is he behaving like a teenager throwing a tantrum?
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited March 2016 Posts: 5,185
    mepal1 wrote: »
    I'am confused coz members here say the film is pretty good, yet the critics say the film is utter shite. Who is right, and why such a huge difference of opinion?

    Check imdb, its at 7,7/10 i believe. With a lot more votes than RT.
    Some of my favorite movies are below 30 on RT, these critics can sometimes be full of themselves
  • mepal1mepal1
    Posts: 1,098
    00Agent wrote: »
    mepal1 wrote: »
    I'am confused coz members here say the film is pretty good, yet the critics say the film is utter shite. Who is right, and why such a huge difference of opinion?

    Check imdb, its at 7,7/10 i believe. With a lot more votes than RT.
    Some of my favorite movies are below 30 on RT, these critics can sometimes be full of themselves

    Yes, some of these critics can be horrible people, who's only contribution to the world is to undermine other peoples good work.

  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited March 2016 Posts: 5,767
    mepal1 wrote: »
    I'am confused coz members here say the film is pretty good, yet the critics say the film is utter shite. Who is right, and why such a huge difference of opinion?
    Because critics don´t know shite.

    I liked it. It´s style over substance all the way, yet still says more than the recent Batman movies.



    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Nevermind Luthor's motivation - why is he behaving like a teenager throwing a tantrum?
    Because his brain isn´t working properly chemically speaking. I was surprised that I wasn´t annoyed by Jesse Eisenberg, I usually am.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Eisenberg didn t bother me as much as I thought he would, but he still isn t ideal casting to say the least.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    I actually liked Luthor, i guess i am the only one. It was the perfect underdog story. This guy was such a weird nerd with an inflated opinion of himself (similar to gene hackmans portrayal btw) that i had actually a lot of respect for this guy by the end, for pulling of his plan the way he did. This guy is so weak in appearence that he has to make it all up with intellect. In a movie that is chock full with all powerful godlike figures, he was the perfect counterbalance.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    I am a hardcore DC fan and I have just got out of the cinema, holy mother of god that was Awesome. Just a reminder that the R rated cut has 30 + minutes extra, I think it obvious watching the film where additional material will be added. The hate for this film is mind boggling I loved this film.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Ok...so I saw this twice today...

    And my verdict, this film has been judged waaaaaayyyy too harshly.

    I understand why people may dislike and be underwhelmed by it but I didn't think it was a terrible film. Maybe the responses were so bad that I was expecting a Uwe Boll type crap fest movie but I have to say I was entertained.

    It's not a great film by any means and the film suffers from many MANY things but I thought it was decent enough and I thought it was acted well for the most part.

    I must be one of the few people that like Cavill as Superman. I really felt bad for Supes, taking so much heat from everyone and their fickle mentality. He deserved to be appreciated better. Affleck was great as Bats but I had some issues with his motivations....without getting into too much detail and risking spoilers, I'll say that I enjoyed the film and give it a 7/10.
  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
    Posts: 543
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Nevermind Luthor's motivation - why is he behaving like a teenager throwing a tantrum?
    *sigh* After the Hackman/Spacey "Real Estate"/campy Lex Luthor, I was really hoping for serious take of him for this film. Not sure if I like Eisenberg's version or not however.
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ok...so I saw this twice today...

    And my verdict, this film has been judged waaaaaayyyy too harshly.

    I understand why people may dislike and be underwhelmed by it but I didn't think it was a terrible film. Maybe the responses were so bad that I was expecting a Uwe Boll type crap fest movie but I have to say I was entertained.
    Yes, I don't understand why people said it was awful. I just though it was okay. It has some great scenes, but I think the way the story was told could have been better. I will try to see it again and see if my opinion changes.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    BvS is highly entertaining, that is not disputed I think.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    It has some iconic scenes for the ages.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    mepal1 wrote: »
    Yes, some of these critics can be horrible people, who's only contribution to the world is to undermine other peoples good work.

    It is mind boggling to me how a single site like this can jeopardize the success of a movie. Everytime i mention that i love BvS i have to defend myself against people who haven't even seen the movie. Where do they take their confidence from?
    RT will cost WB a couple million, because there are lots of people who don't want to see it just based on these stupid ratings
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    00Agent wrote: »
    mepal1 wrote: »
    Yes, some of these critics can be horrible people, who's only contribution to the world is to undermine other peoples good work.

    It is mind boggling to me how a single site like this can jeopardize the success of a movie. Everytime i mention that i love BvS i have to defend myself against people who haven't even seen the movie. Where do they take their confidence from?
    RT will cost WB a couple million, because there are lots of people who don't want to see it just based on these stupid ratings

    RT has become way too important. But nonetheless, it is the vast majority of the critics (and top critics) who really destroy the movie. Why is difficult to say.

    Maybe Nolan's legacy weighs just too heavy and is very difficult to be topped.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,691
    I liked Green Lantern. It was FUN, and his costume wasn't DARK green. That was the last movie they put out I can say positive things about.

    Then I saw TDK, and that was basically the end of the DC cinematic universe for me.
    When they figure out how to make enjoyable & energetic & FUN movies again, wake me up.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited March 2016 Posts: 5,767
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    mepal1 wrote: »
    Yes, some of these critics can be horrible people, who's only contribution to the world is to undermine other peoples good work.

    It is mind boggling to me how a single site like this can jeopardize the success of a movie. Everytime i mention that i love BvS i have to defend myself against people who haven't even seen the movie. Where do they take their confidence from?
    RT will cost WB a couple million, because there are lots of people who don't want to see it just based on these stupid ratings

    RT has become way too important. But nonetheless, it is the vast majority of the critics (and top critics) who really destroy the movie. Why is difficult to say.

    Maybe Nolan's legacy weighs just too heavy and is very difficult to be topped.
    Nolan´s legacy is in an equal measure a result of people believing critics. It´s time people realised how overrated those films are.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Nolan´s legacy is in an equal measure a result of people believing critics. It´s time people realised how overrated those films are.
    I concur.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,333
    chrisisall wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    Nolan´s legacy is in an equal measure a result of people believing critics. It´s time people realised how overrated those films are.
    I concur.

    Yeah, I liked Batman Begins and some of the Dark Knight but Rises stank. Nolan's trilogy isn't perfect.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    But that's okay, because we'll always have Steve & Tony to thrill us until the DC characters shape up. :))
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Nolan's trilogy isn't perfect but I think he made his films with a level of maturity that was more than just things looking cool and gratuitous. That being said Snyder's batman isn't perfect either but Affleck was a beast, easily the best live onscreen batman for me. There were times I was thinking, I need at Batfleck solo movie NOW! and there were moments where some of tge things he did, it was better than most so called horror films.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    A Ben Bat flick is the way to go. So it will not happen now.
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