Last Bond Movie You Watched

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  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    FoxRox wrote: »

    You Only Live Twice
    I enjoyed this film more when I was younger. YOLT used to be a definitive top 5 Bond for me, but the last time I ranked the films, YOLT was barely in the top 10. I think i'll always have a fondness for it (the title track is one of the best in the series), but I don't blindly love the film like I used to.

    I know exactly how you feel. I think YOLT has dropped the most in my ranking, from being a sure-fire Top 10 entry all the way to #17. I still like it, but I recognize it as the weakest of the golden age entries. [/quote]

    I went through that, now it's turned around and moved back up into the Top Ten.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 1,497
    To be honest I haven't had much interest to watch any Bond after SP. I've said in a previous post - nothing terribly offensive, it just left me feeling deflated. But I was home sick these past 2 days, and there's nothing better then curling up in a blanket with a cup of tea and a few hours of 007 to get over a cold.

    I gave <b>License to Kill</b> a go. It has improved since the last time I've seen it. First off, Dalton is superb. He gives a low key performance, but injects a controlled intensity to the character. I say controlled because I can tell he is feeling a lot in the scenes, but somehow is able to maintain his cool and trusts his ability to handle the situation. Dalton also does so much acting with his steely blue eyes. You know what he is thinking and you can even see him reading people in several scenes. Dalton is the ultimate Fleming Bond in my mind.

    Robert Davi is a great actor and brings a lot of charisma to ever scene he is in. He combines ruthlessness with a touch of humor and even a bit of warmness, that you end of kind of liking his character - an excellent trait for a villain I might add. The story is padded out with other villains: Krest, Dario, Kilifer, Butcher which really just serve to demonstrate Sanchez's influence effectively.

    Lupe and Pam both serve the story well, and I was pleased to see Lupe not be a sacrificial lamb; that her ability to get out of Sanchez's web was a victory in itself. Hooking up with the President so nonchalantly at the end was a bit awkward though, but maybe that was meant as a throwaway gag. I really liked Pam this time, she seemed genuine and tough, but with a sensitive side. Carey Lowell really is charming.

    John Glen's direction was effective. I think "journeyman director" is fitting. He doesn't bring the grandiosity a director like Lewis Gilbert would, but he keeps the story moving. The screenplay by Maibaum and MGW is done well. This was Maibaum's last Bond film and you can sense his influence in the balance of seriousness and comedy - he always got this right. On that note, I had forgotten or didn't realize that there is quite a bit of humor in this film. Story-wise, I like that Bond is able to stay in the villain's good graces until the very end, even able to turn the villain against another baddie, a neat little story device. The cinematography is rather dull, but the action looks good. The locations feel underused and some of them are just a bit boring to begin with. The set pieces don't really dazzle the imagination either, though this could be intentional to go for a more realistic approach, still they look drab. Kamen's score is fine and is a serviceable Bond score. IMO this is the best gunbarrel, the music sets up the intensity of the film perfectly. I could do without the theme song - it's that late 80's schmaltzy light RnB production I can't stand.

    Overall, LTK has a lot of great scenes, the story moves along and has plenty of twists and turns, the characters are nicely developed and well played by the actors. This feels like an attempt to shake up the formula a bit and almost feels like a spiritual companion film to CR. I give License to Kill a solid 7.5/10, and probably ranked somewhere around #10.


  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    JBFan626 wrote: »
    To be honest I haven't had much interest to watch any Bond after SP. I've said in a previous post - nothing terribly offensive, it just left me feeling deflated.

    Perfect description.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    JBFan626 wrote: »
    I give License to Kill a solid 7.5/10
    I loved your thoughtful review sir!
    But as it happens to be about my favourite Bond movie, I give it a 9/10 personally (only FRWL is a solid 10/10).
    :D
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    Thanks @chrisisall. I'd agree, FRWL is as close of a 10/10 that I can think of, though I still prefer OHMSS as my #1
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe Still waiting for the Jena Malone Batwoman movie that's never going to be made.Moderator
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    From a Bond film that has slipped down my ranking, to a Bond film that has climbed up my list...


    For Your Eyes Only

    Like Bond during the mounting climbing sequence, FYEO has steadily climbed up my ranking, last time I think I put it in at #6, and I don't feel as though it would be any different now. It's not perfect, but I can appreciate that it was an attempt to recalibrate the series after the silliness of Moonraker.
  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
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    I haven't seen a Bond film since Christmas Day. Yes, Christmas Day. I live none too far from some relatives and shortly before the holidays they borrowed my Bond 50 set. On Christmas Day, of all days, without even asking if I was interested, they chose to watch FRWL and TB. FRWL was before supper, TB came after. It made for a damn fine December 25th, let me tell you that much.
  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
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    From a Bond film that has slipped down my ranking, to a Bond film that has climbed up my list...


    For Your Eyes Only

    Like Bond during the mounting climbing sequence, FYEO has steadily climbed up my ranking, last time I think I put it in at #6, and I don't feel as though it would be any different now. It's not perfect, but I can appreciate that it was an attempt to recalibrate the series after the silliness of Moonraker.

    That's very solid ranking. It's a film that regularly gets lost in the shuffle. Few people hold Moore on the same pedestal as they do Connery or Craig, and even then, most people go straight for TSWLM when citing a Moore film they love.

    I've always been very fond of FYEO. Glad to know you like that much.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    eddychaput wrote: »
    From a Bond film that has slipped down my ranking, to a Bond film that has climbed up my list...


    For Your Eyes Only

    Like Bond during the mounting climbing sequence, FYEO has steadily climbed up my ranking, last time I think I put it in at #6, and I don't feel as though it would be any different now. It's not perfect, but I can appreciate that it was an attempt to recalibrate the series after the silliness of Moonraker.

    That's very solid ranking. It's a film that regularly gets lost in the shuffle. Few people hold Moore on the same pedestal as they do Connery or Craig, and even then, most people go straight for TSWLM when citing a Moore film they love.

    I've always been very fond of FYEO. Glad to know you like that much.

    I have to disagree there. One of things that surprised me when I first came onto these boards was how highly regarded Roger is around here. He smoked Craig in our favorite Bond game. I believe that Roger is more beloved and respected than Craig in this community, by a sizable margin.
  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    eddychaput wrote: »
    From a Bond film that has slipped down my ranking, to a Bond film that has climbed up my list...


    For Your Eyes Only

    Like Bond during the mounting climbing sequence, FYEO has steadily climbed up my ranking, last time I think I put it in at #6, and I don't feel as though it would be any different now. It's not perfect, but I can appreciate that it was an attempt to recalibrate the series after the silliness of Moonraker.

    That's very solid ranking. It's a film that regularly gets lost in the shuffle. Few people hold Moore on the same pedestal as they do Connery or Craig, and even then, most people go straight for TSWLM when citing a Moore film they love.

    I've always been very fond of FYEO. Glad to know you like that much.

    I have to disagree there. One of things that surprised me when I first came onto these boards was how highly regarded Roger is around here. He smoked Craig in our favorite Bond game. I believe that Roger is more beloved and respected than Craig in this community, by a sizable margin.

    Oh, I won't argue on the point pertaining how much people love Moore around these parts. But then again, we're members of a Bond fan message board. It's practically in our DNA to give love to all the actors. Believe me, Moore is very near and dear to my heart.

    I was referring more to general movie fans, casual Bond fans. You know, the weird people.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    edited January 2016 Posts: 30,664
    I'm watching ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE, and it occurs to me that this is the last time that Bernard Lee's M was treated seriously: he carries himself with genuine gravity, he is engaged in actual meaningful dialogue with Bond and others rather than simple exposition or to be a foil for Bond's antics, he is not the butt of a joke. We get snippets of his heyday from here on out, but nothing sustained.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 11,175
    @Birdleson. I think part of that is due to Roger himself and how he is possibly the only one of the six actors to act as a proper long-term ambassador for the series. All the other actors seem to want to distance themselves from it to a certain extent. Roger however appears to be more than happy to talk about his thoughts on Bond. That attitude works well with fans obviously.

    I suppose the same could apply to Lazenby. but Roger seems more...accessible perhaps? He's presented programmes on Bond, appeared regularly in annual one-man shows and done countless interviews.
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    Dr. No...

    Why is bond suddenly British and working for MI7 wasn't he supposed to be American and working for combined intelligence.....;)

    I am just hoping 1 person walked out of the theater thinking that in 1962 lol however on the heels of having just watched Casino Royale 54 I am shocked out how similar these two peices are specifically how they both really noir detective film something I feel the modern bond films kind of lost (though maybe after seeing all of them I might change my view) I like that bond is essentially investigating a murder and while the stakes are increased toward the end of the film it still feels very well intimate. Connery is brilliant as is Lee and well everyone else. The weak point is the music the bond theme is over used and the rest of the music kind of sounds like an old looney tunes carton. Overall my bond marathon is going very nicely well wife is working next weekend so next week From Russia With Love.

    Dr. no 6.5
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe Still waiting for the Jena Malone Batwoman movie that's never going to be made.Moderator
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    eddychaput wrote: »
    From a Bond film that has slipped down my ranking, to a Bond film that has climbed up my list...


    For Your Eyes Only

    Like Bond during the mounting climbing sequence, FYEO has steadily climbed up my ranking, last time I think I put it in at #6, and I don't feel as though it would be any different now. It's not perfect, but I can appreciate that it was an attempt to recalibrate the series after the silliness of Moonraker.

    That's very solid ranking. It's a film that regularly gets lost in the shuffle. Few people hold Moore on the same pedestal as they do Connery or Craig, and even then, most people go straight for TSWLM when citing a Moore film they love.

    I've always been very fond of FYEO. Glad to know you like that much.

    It's funny how our feelings can change towards certain things as we get older. I never used to like FYEO. To be honest, I used to write it off as boring. Now though, I appreciate the spy thriller side of the film. And while it's still a Moore era Bond, and has to go through certain motions associated with Moore's Bond, FYEO tried to bring Bond back into the realms of a spy thriller.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    edited January 2016 Posts: 30,664
    After finishing ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE last night (great as always), I was still hungering of more Bond, so I went ahead and bought the HD SPECTRE from Amazon (which does not include any extras, so far as I can tell, so if you may want to purchase yours from another source).

    Right off I have to say that watching it on my system, in the same comfortable format as my Bond-A-Thons are watched, has improved the experience vastly. I know that I have spent much time on these boards reiterating my issues with this film, but I still don't think that I conveyed how strong my immediate repulsion was. It never felt like a James Bond film to me, beyond story, or tempo, something about it struck me as unpleasant. I felt that despair which I felt after MOONRAKER, that there is no coming back from this, but even worse because MR had quite a few aspects that I really liked regardless. Also uniquely to SP, I didn't think that I could ever see this one as part of the series, it just didn't seem to fit.

    Well, that has certainly changed, Seen on my own set, immediately following OHMSS, it fits, it has a home. I'm not ready to take it out of the bottom slot yet, those initial wounds run too deep, but at least now I can watch it, enjoy it and (like OCTOPUSSY, MR and DIE ANOTHER DAY) ignore all of the dull and stupid shit (and it wasn't nearly as dull this time).

    I still feel that it probably has the thinnest plot in the franchise (SKYFALL is next in line, but I still place that one in my Top Ten). The Scooby Gang didn't bother me so much this time, primarily because I'm ready for it. I still want them gone. I am not a fan of Thomas Newman's score at all this time out. I think it was one of the major factors in making the film seem "out of whack" to me. Both the Title Song and incidental Barry music should have been incorporated more fully and effectively into the full score. So much of what were heard was loud and abrasive and far too reminiscent of SF.

    But I put even more of the onus of my visceral rejections of the film on cinematographer Hoyte Van Hoytema. His compositions are fine, as is his storytelling. But the dominance of ochers and earth toned filters just buried me. Maybe he was instructed to create that look by Mendes, and I'm blaming the wrong guy, but that was a lousy choice. It greatly effected my mindset in a negative way. It seemed much less of a factor on my home system.

    Yet, here it is. I now know that, though it may be eternally stuck at the bottom (or maybe not), I can accept it and love it and watch it along with all the rest. Which was something I was afraid I wasn't going to be able to do, so that feels good.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Good to hear that @Birdleson. I had a feeling that the experience could be improved on the small screen, and so I'm awaiting my blu ray anxiously to see how it all comes together.

    I currently have it placeholder ranked at 10, but that's probably because of the novelty of it all, since it's not as familiar. I have been anticipating that it will fall down the rankings when I see it back to back with other Bond films, but based on your comments, I'm hopeful it won't fall too far.

    PS: For someone who ranks the film so poorly, you've probably seen it more times now than most.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    edited January 2016 Posts: 30,664
    That was number 7 for me. Over the next few weeks I'm sure I'll re-watch and pick apart specific scenes.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    After finishing ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE last night (great as always), I was still hungering of more Bond, so I went ahead and bought the HD SPECTRE from Amazon (which does not include any extras, so far as I can tell, so if you may want to purchase yours from another source).

    Right off I have to say that watching it on my system, in the same comfortable format as my Bond-A-Thons are watched, has improved the experience vastly. I know that I have spent much time on these boards reiterating my issues with this film, but I still don't think that I conveyed how strong my repulsion initially was. It never felt like a James Bond film to me, beyond story, or tempo, something about it struck me as unpleasant. I felt that despair which I felt after MOONRAKER, that there is no coming back from this, but even worse because MR had quite a few aspects that I really liked regardless. Also uniquely to SP, I didn't think that I could ever see this one as part of the series, it just didn't seem to fit.

    Well, that has certainly changed, Seen on my own set, immediately following OHMSS, it fits, it has a home. I'm not ready to take to off of the bottom slot yet, those initial wounds run too deep, but at least now I can watch it, enjoy it and (like OCTOPUSSY, MR and DIE ANOTHER DAY) ignore all of the dull and stupid shit (and it wasn't nearly as dull this time).

    I still feel that it probably has the thinnest plot in the franchise (SKYFALL is next in line, but I still place that one in my Top Ten). The Scooby Gang didn't bother me so much this time, primarily because I'm ready for it. I still want them gone. I am not a fan of Thomas Newman's score at all this time out. I think it was one of the major factors in making the film seem "out of whack" to me. Both the Title Song and incidental Barry music should have been incorporated more fully an effectively into the full score. So much of what were heard was loud and abrasive and far too reminiscent of SF.

    But I put even more of the onus of my visceral rejections of the film on cinematographer Hoyte Van Hoytema. His compositions are fine, as is his storytelling. But the dominance of ochers and earth toned filters just buried me. Maybe he was instructed to create that look by Mendes, and I'm blaming the wrong guy, but that was a lousy choice. It greatly effected my mindset in a negative way. It seemed much less of a factor on my home system.

    Yet, here it is. I now know that, though it may be eternally stuck at the bottom (or maybe not), I can accept it and love it and watch it along with all the rest. Which was something I was afraid I wasn't going to be able to do, so that feels good.

    Nice to hear! You have probably seen SPECTRE more then i have seen Skyfall (7 times) now.

  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    After going on a Bond hiatus for almost five months (aside from SPECTRE), I've been averaging one a day since mid-Dec. ( some days none, some days three). I think I'll close out after FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE tonight and see how long I can hold out this time (I still allow myself to watch random clips during these breaks).
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Just finished up another session of GE. Three viewings down this year already!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    SF. It's a well made film and gorgeous to look at and although highly flawed, knowing that Blofeld is in on this from the shadows makes certain things more digestible but still, once we get to Scotland it's hard to stay invested and again, Severine going so soon much like Lucia is painful.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    SF. It's a well made film and gorgeous to look at and although highly flawed, knowing that Blofeld is in on this from the shadows makes certain things more digestible but still, once we get to Scotland it's hard to stay invested and again, Severine going so soon much like Lucia is painful.

    This may be exactly how I feel once I watch it again. Haven't seen it since SP and I thought a re-watch would do me some good now that we know Blofeld is pulling the strings behind the scenes for Silva and his men. Thankfully, Mendes was smart enough to not kill off Lucia and give her the same fate as Severine, who was also criminally underused.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    To each his own, but I will not go back and watch the earlier Craig Bond films with Blofeld and SPECTRE in mind as all of that shit was conceived and added later on.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'll be selective and only follow that idea for SF, as it's more than likely the only way I'll ever get enjoyment out of watching it again.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'm the opposite on this.

    I much prefer the original premise of Silva going after M out of revenge personally, rather than just as some 'turned' MI6 tech geek in the SPECTRE universe, so I'm going to try and ignore SP's revisions when I next watch SF.

    I don't mind thinking of SPECTRE when watching QoS though, because it seems more plausible that White or Greene weren't the head honcho.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Kingdumb of Norway
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    @Birdleson, great to hear that you can somehow enjoy the latest Bond after all. Ranking it below the Brosnan films is a travesty. Hope you will get out of that psychosis in time.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 1,555
    @Birdleson, great to hear that you can somehow enjoy the latest Bond after all. Ranking it below the Brosnan films is a travesty. Hope you will get out of that psychosis in time.

    Funny, I thought it felt very much like a Brosnan Bond film (weak 3rd act, shoehorned emotional angles, piss poor humor, soulless).

    I think it was very similar to that era, aside from the leading man (who I do think is a better James Bond than Brosnan). In fact, I'd rank it behind at least 2 of the Brosnan movies.

    Should mention here that I'm a fan of Spectre overall aside from some problems (I rank it around #18 or so as of now) and I do enjoy 3 of Brosnan's movies, so I'm not just attacking them all. I'm a Bond fan, waht can I say.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Just did a double feature of SF and GE (I didn't know what to watch after SF, and by seeing @Crasy47 watched it again, it made me choose that one).

    SF is a solid top 10 outing. Tremendous acting by Bardem and Dench. Craig gives a stellar performance. I am always amazed at how fast the movie flies by, given it's quite long and it's quite talkative in the middle section. I love the soundtrack by Newman, but it's one of those that work best with the movie and not on its own. From the first time I saw it I knew that Whishaw and Fiennes would be amongst my favorite MI6 allies in the series. Harris as Moneypenny needed SP for me to like her more.

    As for GE... I just don't know what to say anymore. 3rd time I've seen it this year already and it just doesn't fail to excite me. As with SF, the supporting cast here is fantastic - Dench, Karyo, Jenssen, Scorupco, Coltrane, Bean, Gottfried John ... This movie also moves at a quick pace, never one dull moment. Brosnan is just an absolute legend as 007.
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    Just did a double feature of SF and GE (I didn't know what to watch after SF, and by seeing @Crasy47 watched it again, it made me choose that one).

    SF is a solid top 10 outing. Tremendous acting by Bardem and Dench. Craig gives a stellar performance. I am always amazed at how fast the movie flies by, given it's quite long and it's quite talkative in the middle section. I love the soundtrack by Newman, but it's one of those that work best with the movie and not on its own. From the first time I saw it I knew that Whishaw and Fiennes would be amongst my favorite MI6 allies in the series. Harris as Moneypenny needed SP for me to like her more.

    As for GE... I just don't know what to say anymore. 3rd time I've seen it this year already and it just doesn't fail to excite me. As with SF, the supporting cast here is fantastic - Dench, Karyo, Jenssen, Scorupco, Coltrane, Bean, Gottfried John ... This movie also moves at a quick pace, never one dull moment. Brosnan is just an absolute legend as 007.

    Seems like you and Creasy are having a Goldeneye contest :)

  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    @Birdleson, great to hear that you can somehow enjoy the latest Bond after all. Ranking it below the Brosnan films is a travesty. Hope you will get out of that psychosis in time.

    Aside from SPECTRE, I currently have all Craig's above all of Brosnans.
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