SPECTRE: It grossed $880 Million Worldwide (..and 2015 was the biggest box office year so far)

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  • Today, after one month (yes, the most important month) the movie will have made no less than 730 million and I am sure it will have got 800+ million after New Year. Probably, Hunger Games 4 and Good Dinosaur won´t pass the 800 million mark.
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    Today, after one month (yes, the most important month) the movie will have made no less than 730 million and I am sure it will have got 800+ million after New Year. Probably, Hunger Games 4 and Good Dinosaur won´t pass the 800 million mark.

    Yes, that Hunger Games film, is so front loaded, that its BO performance in most territories has dropped like a lead balloon. i.e the Chinese gave the film a big thumbs down, and is even below SP in that market now, despite having a more recent opening.

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    Hunger Games must have cost a lot less to make than SP though.

    I don't understand why the SP budget was so big. You don't really see it on the screen. It doesn't particularly feel 'bigger' than SF.
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    Ah whereas I found SF to look cheap. Too UK based, the Chinese locations all studio bound. It was nice to have a Bond film that actually went to the locations depicted in the film.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    The film is doing fine. It will be top 5 or 6 in overall inflation adjusted gross when it's all said and done and that is something to be commended. The gross will be a considerable drop off compared to SF however, and I don't know too many instances where a successor film has acted in that fashion (even TDKR did reasonably well vs. TDK).

    When it's all said and done, I'd be curious to see how the gross held up in various countries compared to SF, and more importantly what the rate of drop off was (e.g. overall opening weekend to final gross multiplier). To me, that is more of a telling signal of whether the film caught on with the public as well as other films in the canon or not. In many markets, the opening gross was very high due to it being SF's immediate successor and due to a huge Sony marketing push (i.e. China) compared to SF.

    PS: I will be seeing the final Hunger Games this Tuesday.
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    Cowley wrote: »
    Ah whereas I found SF to look cheap. Too UK based, the Chinese locations all studio bound. It was nice to have a Bond film that actually went to the locations depicted in the film.

    I didn't actually feel SP felt more location based that SF.

    I was really hoping for more classic locations with Bond himself in Rome. We get the car chase, but that's not the same as seeing Bond walking the streets of Rome.

    I really thought we were going to have a scene with Bond trailing someone through the ruins of the Roman forum, or a fight in the Coloseum, or a clandestine meeting in the Pantheon.

    These days I actually find it quite hard to tell the different between location and studio and CGI work. It all blurs into one.
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    #4 at the boxoffice this week.

    Nice.

    It already made more money than the Amazing Spider-Man 2 I guess (with worldwide numbers added)

    Now let's hope it will somehow pass 750m worldwide after the rest of the world numbers are added.
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    Early estimates put SP's BO in North America at $176.1 mil and over $750 mil worldwide.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Cowley wrote: »
    Ah whereas I found SF to look cheap. Too UK based, the Chinese locations all studio bound. It was nice to have a Bond film that actually went to the locations depicted in the film.

    I didn't actually feel SP felt more location based that SF.

    I was really hoping for more classic locations with Bond himself in Rome. We get the car chase, but that's not the same as seeing Bond walking the streets of Rome.

    I really thought we were going to have a scene with Bond trailing someone through the ruins of the Roman forum, or a fight in the Coloseum, or a clandestine meeting in the Pantheon.

    These days I actually find it quite hard to tell the different between location and studio and CGI work. It all blurs into one.

    The Bond films really need to start feeling atmospheric when shooting on location, otherwise what's the point and why pay the extra expense?

    People can say what they like about QoS but one thing it excelled at was, the feeling and atmosphere of being at the locations the various scenes were set in. Not once has Mendes managed to accomplish this save for perhaps Turkey and the UK settings don't count.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Cowley wrote: »
    Ah whereas I found SF to look cheap. Too UK based, the Chinese locations all studio bound. It was nice to have a Bond film that actually went to the locations depicted in the film.

    I didn't actually feel SP felt more location based that SF.

    I was really hoping for more classic locations with Bond himself in Rome. We get the car chase, but that's not the same as seeing Bond walking the streets of Rome.

    I really thought we were going to have a scene with Bond trailing someone through the ruins of the Roman forum, or a fight in the Coloseum, or a clandestine meeting in the Pantheon.

    These days I actually find it quite hard to tell the different between location and studio and CGI work. It all blurs into one.

    The Bond films really need to start feeling atmospheric when shooting on location, otherwise what's the point and why pay the extra expense?

    People can say what they like about QoS but one thing it excelled at was, the feeling and atmosphere of being at the locations the various scenes were set in. Not once has Mendes managed to accomplish this save for perhaps Turkey and the UK settings don't count.

    I agree with you.
  • I found the globetrotting in Spectre to be the best of the Craig films. The bulk of Casino was filmed in the Bahamas and Czech Republic - there was little remotely resembling Montenegro or the African locales. Quantum had a lot of frenetic continent jumping, but the locations were not memorable at all except the Tosca set-piece. Much of Skyfall was of course studio-built, but with nice use of domestic locations. The globetrotting in Spectre had a more Roger Moore-ish vibe - with Craig and his suitcases casually going where the story takes them with not much urgency. I thought Mexico City, Rome, and the Alps felt genuine and atmospheric enough. The Morocco scenes lacked some local colour (and people!!), while London has been overexposed by now.
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    I want to see B25 in New York.
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    Box Office Mojo has it at 176 US and 749 worldwide. We'll see how it pans out when actuals come in but dang that's a lot after a month in release.
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    So IMO, the target now is 850, which is a fair number
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    How much do we think, Japan will do?
    20 more fron the US, 20-25 from Japan?
    The rest internationally. Can it get farther?
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    Plus isnt it true, that 650 mill isnt what it needs to go into profit, due to them having a lot of help from all those, who paid to have their brand in the film?
  • The_Reaper wrote: »
    Box Office Mojo has it at 176 US and 749 worldwide. We'll see how it pans out when actuals come in but dang that's a lot after a month in release.
    It is more than expected, SP is holding fine in Europe and Norh America. By the way, I have just watched Mockinjay 2 and it is disappointing.

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    Germanlady wrote: »
    So IMO, the target now is 850, which is a fair number

    I think $850 mil minimum.

    My guess is around $875 mil, anymore would be more than welcome.

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    Germanlady wrote: »
    How much do we think, Japan will do?
    20 more fron the US, 20-25 from Japan?
    The rest internationally. Can it get farther?

    Yes.....Japan to do around $20-25 mil

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    How much did SF have at this point worldwide? SP was only 90 million behind not long ago. I see no reason it can't finish 150 behind total.
  • Germanlady wrote: »
    How much do we think, Japan will do?
    20 more fron the US, 20-25 from Japan?
    The rest internationally. Can it get farther?
    I would say 20-30 million more in North America, about 15-25 million from Japan (yen is weak theese days, even worse than Euro) and 25-60 million in the rest of the world. SP will make over 800 million, maybe 850.

  • The_Reaper wrote: »
    How much did SF have at this point worldwide? SP was only 90 million behind not long ago. I see no reason it can't finish 150 behind total.
    The point is that SP has already been released in China and SF was not running there until January.

  • In adjusted US dollars, Spectre has now passed FYEO and LALD and is a few days away from nudging TSWLM

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=jamesbond.htm&adjust_yr=2015&p=.htm

    All time worldwide, adjusted, this site hasn't updated yet but its 749 total now puts it ahead of TSWLM for 6th place, and will pass YOLT in a day or two to be 5th.

    http://www.007james.com/articles/box_office.php
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    One thing to remember............about the older Bonds.........the budget for the films, from the mid 60's to mid 70's was anything between $7-9 mil, and even taking inflation into account..........their budgets wouldn't come anywhere near the astronomical sums of the budgets for the more recent films.
    You have to take this into mind when looking at the overall grosses of the films.........and then reflecting how much more profitable the early Bond's were.
  • The budgets were huge at the time though. Didn't YOLT have the biggest single set ever constructed at the time? And I think Moonraker's $30 million was considered astronomical (ha) in 1979.
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    The budgets were huge at the time though. Didn't YOLT have the biggest single set ever constructed at the time? And I think Moonraker's $30 million was considered astronomical (ha) in 1979.

    True...........YOLT cost $9 mil.............but grossed $111 mil.

    But as you can see i'am talking about the budget:gross ratio.

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    Top International BO territories for SP

    UK...................$136.1 mil
    China..............$83.4 mil
    Germany.........$57 mil
    France.............$28.6 mil
    Australia..........$18.4 mil
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    mepal1 wrote: »
    Top International BO territories for SP

    UK...................$136.1 mil
    China..............$83.4 mil
    Germany.........$57 mil
    France.............$28.6 mil
    Australia..........$18.4 mil

    Odd you left out North America. SP has earned more in NA than any other country or region.
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    Skyfall did 60 mil in France, then Spectre breaks opening records, and then the attacks...
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