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  • Can I just say one reason this poster annoyed me slightly is because that skull costume has no relevance to the story apart from being a disguise during the PTS. Why not go for something else that fits the story better?
  • Did someone say penny pinchers? They're spending over $300 million on this movie.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,090
    Did someone say penny pinchers? They're spending over $300 million on this movie.

    Yep and we get a photo of Bond with his arms crossed to promote the thing. Money well spent. Talk about pushing the boat out.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    Spend the money on the goddamned poster! Get people talking about a cool poster rather than the mediocre one we just got!
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    People, instead of only harshly criticising, say what exactly it is you expected for a movie poster or give examples.

    A movie poster is promotion and marketing. This poster sticks out. If you go to a cinema complex where posters are shown SPECTRE will stick out and catch everyone's attention.
    I'd say that's a job well done from EON.
    Furthermore it's a matter of taste. I like it, I didn't like the Skyfall poster which was unremarkable and boring like hell.
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    People, instead of only harshly criticising, say what exactly it is you expected for a movie poster or give examples.

    A movie poster is promotion and marketing. This poster sticks out. If you go to a cinema complex where posters are shown SPECTRE will stick out and catch everyone's attention.
    I'd say that's a job well done from EON.
    Furthermore it's a matter of taste. I like it, I didn't like the Skyfall poster which was unremarkable and boring like hell.

    I don't always agree with your take on stuff @BondJasonBond006, but you are dead right on this. The poster is advertising, period. It has one second to catch non fans attention when they walk past it. No one on this site will even be mentioning the darn thing again when the film opens.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    A busy poster which evokes the likes of TLD or earlier might excite the likes of some here but it would be lost on the market that these films make it's bread and butter that being the general public.

    I don't mind it but it's nothing remarkable but as much as the SF campaign was derided here it contributed to it's massive haul. I know the likes of RC7 will say he doesn't give a damn about BO but EON do and designing something for a select group rather than something that catches peoples eye at the cinema foyer is pretty pointless in their view.

    Yes we are a fan base and a passionate one but we think Bond is our own little sand pit to play in and it's not, I've said it before but I put more trust in a 50 year plus old institution like EON than the Frankenstein fan wankery we'd get if some of you were making these films.

    No disrespect to talented fan poster designers on here, yes most of them are much better from an artistic point of view but it's only Bond fans that would appreciate these.

    As dull to some that SP poster is, it will do it's job and that's all EON is concerned about and who could blame them?


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    IF EON had to get a consensus for a new SP (Bond 24) poster from the members on this site, the newest SP poster would not be ready until Bond 38 was about to be released.
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    Can I just say one reason this poster annoyed me slightly is because that skull costume has no relevance to the story apart from being a disguise during the PTS. Why not go for something else that fits the story better?

    Why do you think it has no relevance? It seems to me that people here are not seeing the wood for the trees, as they say. It may have EVERYTHING to do with the story. Does no-one remember Abbey Road?

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    dmwalker wrote: »
    Can I just say one reason this poster annoyed me slightly is because that skull costume has no relevance to the story apart from being a disguise during the PTS. Why not go for something else that fits the story better?

    Why do you think it has no relevance? It seems to me that people here are not seeing the wood for the trees, as they say. It may have EVERYTHING to do with the story. Does no-one remember Abbey Road?

    Of course it has to do with the story:
    it's a symbol for the ghost, the spectre, that is hunting Bond.
    We know, that the man in the skull costume is Bond himself, we could even say, that the new poster says: Bond is hunted by his own spectre.

    But yes, the costume itself is only seen in the first 2 minutes of the movie. That's it.
    But as a symbol it works for the whole movie.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited September 2015 Posts: 4,010
    dmwalker wrote: »
    Can I just say one reason this poster annoyed me slightly is because that skull costume has no relevance to the story apart from being a disguise during the PTS. Why not go for something else that fits the story better?

    Why do you think it has no relevance? It seems to me that people here are not seeing the wood for the trees, as they say. It may have EVERYTHING to do with the story. Does no-one remember Abbey Road?

    The things is MS is looking at this as a Bond fan, the general couldn't care what you put behind Craig, maybe EON don't want to elude to the story in a blatant way.

    We just forget that this is not ours it's for millions, some people are so wrapped up in their own self importance and opinion they forget the bigger picture.

    No it's not artistic and no not much work has gone into it but hey it's going to do it's job. So why try and evoke the lost art of poster design for a small majority of people who are likely to see it even if you stuck Bond sat on the toilet on the poster.
  • RC7RC7
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    dmwalker wrote: »
    Can I just say one reason this poster annoyed me slightly is because that skull costume has no relevance to the story apart from being a disguise during the PTS. Why not go for something else that fits the story better?

    Why do you think it has no relevance? It seems to me that people here are not seeing the wood for the trees, as they say. It may have EVERYTHING to do with the story. Does no-one remember Abbey Road?

    The things is MS is looking at this as a Bond fan, the general couldn't care what you put behind Craig, maybe EON don't want to elude to the story in a blatant way.

    We just forget that this is not ours it's for millions, some people are so wrapped up in their own self importance and opinion they forget the bigger picture.

    No it's not artistic and no not much work has gone into it but hey it's going to do it's job. So why try and evoke the lost art of poster design for a small majority of people who are likely to see it even if you stuck Bond sat on the toilet on the poster.

    Again, yet another post suggesting that you can't have a great work of art that simultaneously works as a marketing campaign. People who dislike this poster just want something 'better'. The most depressing aspect of modern cinema is that Hollywood have brainwashed even the most hardcore fans into worshipping $$$. Fuck 'the job it's doing' it's crap. Period.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 108
    Hmm.. I see people in this leaks thread who have not read the leaks. Be careful !

    So about the co-producer status that is on the poster, I'll use spoilers again then (!)
    Could it be related to the fact Craig was deemed too expensive by Sony bosses ? Did they propose to swap some part of the instant paycheck for a share in the results ? Does it mean we'll see Craig in Sony marketing and not a replacement like Ben Whishaw, as Sony proposed ?

    From the leaked e-mails I saw (and I believe I read through them all) Sony only considered Craig to be too expensive when it came to his fee for advertising a mobile phone. There was never any mention of him being too expensive to appear in the movie.

    Also, the phone stuff was the opinion of Sony Electronics, not Sony Pictures.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    One of my favorite moments in the script was when Bond flips the "Atmosphere" switch and Spooky by Dusty Springfield starts to play. I really hope its kept in the film, but part of me is wondering if that could perhaps be one of the multiple songs that is rumored to have been recorded. I think an Adele cover of Spooky would be quite good!

    How does this scene play out??
    What exactly is the atmosphere switch and how does spooky fit????
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    One of my favorite moments in the script was when Bond flips the "Atmosphere" switch and Spooky by Dusty Springfield starts to play. I really hope its kept in the film, but part of me is wondering if that could perhaps be one of the multiple songs that is rumored to have been recorded. I think an Adele cover of Spooky would be quite good!

    How does this scene play out??
    What exactly is the atmosphere switch and how does spooky fit????

    During the car chase in Rome, the DB10 has switches for atmosphere (customised music etc), ejector seat, machine gun and flamethrower. Since the car isn't actually his, it's 009's, when Bond tries to figure out what each switch does, he flicks the atmosphere switch and Spooky starts to play.
  • It's occurred to me that I'm now happy with the ending of the Spectre script, just because it works in both ways. If Craig doesn't do Bond 25, then the ending works, if Craig does do Bond 25, then the ending works because they're setting themselves up for an interesting story.
  • It's occurred to me that I'm now happy with the ending of the Spectre script, just because it works in both ways. If Craig doesn't do Bond 25, then the ending works, if Craig does do Bond 25, then the ending works because they're setting themselves up for an interesting story.

    I agree with you. It works as a happy ending or as a cliffhunger.
  • Hey all, now that the title song artist has been revealed, I have a question for everyone: Sam Smith says the song is "classic Bond" and "an epic love song." I wonder, then, how this could possibly tie in with the description of the OTS as described in the script. The script's cues for the OTS are very dark, bordering on morbid. I don't see a love song going along with it. I think it will probably have to be changed. I'm very curious to see what Mr. Kleinman comes up with - regardless of the song, his work is always brilliant.

    What do you all think?
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    Those of you who've read the script - what do you hope to see in the upcoming final trailer?
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    @antovolk I'd like to see some more of the Morocco and London finale scenes. I also hope to see when Bond and Madeleine first meet at Hoffler Klinik. I'd like to see more of Waltz, also. What are you expecting @antovolk?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I want to get a proper glimpse of some fist fights.
  • I think we will get a couple of one liners, the lighter side of bond
  • antovolk wrote: »
    Those of you who've read the script - what do you hope to see in the upcoming final trailer?

    A bit about the terrorist attacks in cities around the world, to give the threat in this film some scope.
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    antovolk wrote: »
    Those of you who've read the script - what do you hope to see in the upcoming final trailer?

    A bit about the terrorist attacks in cities around the world, to give the threat in this film some scope.

    I agree - that's essentially sort of the set up to the film, that and the surveillance aspect would be awesome. Would love to see one or two shots of the Nine Eyes meeting, and the reveal of the CNS (the concept art is "out there" - think I posted it on the Production Timeline somewhere under spoiler tags and it looks AWESOME).
    mnhettia wrote: »
    I think we will get a couple of one liners, the lighter side of bond

    I think after the really atmospheric teaser I see why they decided to go full on "glorious Bond" for the theatrical trailer, I'd really love it if tone wise the final trailer came back to the atmospheric/mysterious style of the teaser, so I'm not sure on the lighter side of Bond as we already essentially got that with the theatrical trailer...

    Also I'll be very surprised if a shot of the Rolls approaching Madeleine and Bond in the desert isn't included - bound to be stunning.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited September 2015 Posts: 2,138
    Regarding Bond's phone in Spectre was told from a reliable insider that Bond will use a prototype of the
    Samsung Galaxy S7 in Spectre months before it hits shelves code name "Project Lucky" the first mobile to offer UFS 2.0 storage
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    Regarding Bond's phone in Spectre was told from a reliable insider that Bond will use a prototype of the
    Samsung Galaxy S7 in Spectre months before it hits shelves code name "Project Lucky" the first mobile to offer UFS 2.0 storage

    HOLY MOTHER OF :))

    I find that hilarious - nice work!
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    antovolk wrote: »
    Regarding Bond's phone in Spectre was told from a reliable insider that Bond will use a prototype of the
    Samsung Galaxy S7 in Spectre months before it hits shelves code name "Project Lucky" the first mobile to offer UFS 2.0 storage

    HOLY MOTHER OF :))

    I find that hilarious - nice work!

    The S6 just dropped two months ago.. why would they have the s7 in a film nearly a year from it releasing
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    Regarding Bond's phone in Spectre was told from a reliable insider that Bond will use a prototype of the
    Samsung Galaxy S7 in Spectre months before it hits shelves code name "Project Lucky" the first mobile to offer UFS 2.0 storage

    Very interesting and it seems significant. The email leaks were full of back and forth over Samsung's much richer offer to EON. Craig and Mendes were negative about the quality of the Sony phone, and Sond execs also looked like they were trying to screw Craig out of his endorsement fee. Looks like EON screwed Sony back. Seems kind of significant re EON's attitude toward any need to cooperate with the Sony suits. Would guess there is lots going with
    this deal or maybe it was just all about the money.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Regarding Bond's phone in Spectre was told from a reliable insider that Bond will use a prototype of the
    Samsung Galaxy S7 in Spectre months before it hits shelves code name "Project Lucky" the first mobile to offer UFS 2.0 storage

    HOLY MOTHER OF :))

    I find that hilarious - nice work!

    The S6 just dropped two months ago.. why would they have the s7 in a film nearly a year from it releasing

    http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s7/23115/samsung-galaxy-s7-price-specs-features-release-date-rumours

    Apple just dropped an new Iphone 6s Samsung was always going to get its next phone ready to compete. You asked so cynically why..that's why they would get the S7 ready.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Regarding Bond's phone in Spectre was told from a reliable insider that Bond will use a prototype of the
    Samsung Galaxy S7 in Spectre months before it hits shelves code name "Project Lucky" the first mobile to offer UFS 2.0 storage

    HOLY MOTHER OF :))

    I find that hilarious - nice work!

    The S6 just dropped two months ago.. why would they have the s7 in a film nearly a year from it releasing

    http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s7/23115/samsung-galaxy-s7-price-specs-features-release-date-rumours

    Apple just dropped an new Iphone 6s Samsung was always going to get its next phone ready to compete. You asked so cynically why..that's why they would get the S7 ready.

    At least Samsung will sell something again in Europe that way :)) They are way behind Apple, without the Asian market Samsung could scrub their phone department.
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