Spectre Composer Is Thomas Newman

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  • Posts: 498
    For those of you saying David Arnold knows nothing about composing, how can you actually say such a thing? I'm a film composer, have you guys ever composed before and do you know what you're actually talking about? Can you really say with a straight face that Casino Royale was a bad soundtrack? Even TND, TWINE were excellent and sounded fresh and appropriate for their times, as did all John Barry's scores. I'll listen to David Arnold's OST's any day.
    Really David is the best choice. He's been doing it since '97 and he did great. The only reason he left was because Sam wanted to use Newman, so now that Sam isn't coming back, hopefully Arnold will.

    Agreed ! :)
  • Michael Giacchino.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    TOFANA007 wrote:
    Pismo, welcome

    YOU are among christians here

    Sadly James Barry is gone. Best compsoer of the series. David ARnolds good. But for Bond 24, Nightfire 007, lets choose a more comtemprary sound. Black Eyed Pees can do the title and score too

    It is JOHN Barry. If you are going to name-drop a legend, get his name right. [-X
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    I dont want David Arnold I want them to try diffrent composers. Be awesome if they could get John Williams, or Hans Zimmer, or James Horner to do Bond 24
  • TOFANA007TOFANA007 Banned
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    YES David ARnold is GOOD! TND is fantastic score.. as is other work for Indpendce Day and Stargate. BUT his inpiration was gone for CR AND QOS sadly!
  • The legend that is John Williams. Would love him to do Bond before its too late. He's in his eighties now.
  • ChristartosChristartos Banned
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    The legend that is John Williams. Would love him to do Bond before its too late. He's in his eighties now.
    No he isn't...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The legend that is John Williams. Would love him to do Bond before its too late. He's in his eighties now.
    No he isn't...
    The man is 81... Do the math.
  • ChristartosChristartos Banned
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    The legend that is John Williams. Would love him to do Bond before its too late. He's in his eighties now.
    No he isn't...
    The man is 81... Do the math.

    ??? No I mean he isn't a legend

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    The legend that is John Williams. Would love him to do Bond before its too late. He's in his eighties now.
    No he isn't...
    The man is 81... Do the math.

    ??? No I mean he isn't a legend

    Of course he is. How would you describe him?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    The legend that is John Williams. Would love him to do Bond before its too late. He's in his eighties now.
    No he isn't...
    The man is 81... Do the math.

    ??? No I mean he isn't a legend
    This should be good.

    Ahum... Okay, explain. What's wrong with Williams then? Let's see how the grand connoisseur gives this his best. I predict... laughter.


  • DarthDimi wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    The legend that is John Williams. Would love him to do Bond before its too late. He's in his eighties now.
    No he isn't...
    The man is 81... Do the math.

    ??? No I mean he isn't a legend
    This should be good.

    Ahum... Okay, explain. What's wrong with Williams then? Let's see how the grand connoisseur gives this his best. I predict... laughter.

    Me too.. I await his explanation with interest.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    And thus the conversation died...

    @myworldisenough, It looks like we're going to have to go to bed with little to no entertainment.

    Sad...
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 1,143
    It is a pity @DarthDimi, I was looking forward to it so much.

    I think you have hit the nail on the preverbal head though... Sad.... Very sad....
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    ??? No I mean he isn't a legend

    I take it you must enjoy Never Say Never Again's sleezy music. John Williams is apart of the big 3 of legendary composers.

    John Barry
    John Williams
    and Jerry Goldsmith.

  • Posts: 498
    TOFANA007 wrote:

    Cjristartos is a gentle christian man and always behaves genttly

    How can you say for sure ?

  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    John Barry.


    No? Why not? Wait What?!? Excuse me while I go cry in my room.




    (sigh) Well, David Arnold's an ok substitute.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 3,494
    For those of you saying David Arnold knows nothing about composing, how can you actually say such a thing? I'm a film composer, have you guys ever composed before and do you know what you're actually talking about? Can you really say with a straight face that Casino Royale was a bad soundtrack? Even TND, TWINE were excellent and sounded fresh and appropriate for their times, as did all John Barry's scores. I'll listen to David Arnold's OST's any day.

    I'm a musician and composer (rock) myself, and couldn't agree with you more about this statement. Most of Arnold's detractors are headphone critics who as far as I can tell don't understand the nuances of composing, you can usually tell who is and isn't because the legit musicians here who don't like him can expound on it. Most of the non-musicians are content to dismiss Arnold as a composer of Barry pastiches. You should check out my music reviews on the "for original fans" thread, I'd love to discuss that aspect with a fellow musician and composer.

    TND and QOS are the best non Barry/Martin OST's in the series, and CR isn't too far behind. Even the ones who don't like Arnold who understood theory and structure mentioned his action pieces had improved, and they were the best he's done to date in QOS. If you listen to Newman's latest as a standalone, there's some good moments but it becomes very redundant by the end and most of his action pieces resemble each other. I'm glad he paid some attention to the legacy or it could have been a lot worse (Serra), but he sure didn't convince me with this effort that he's an upgrade on Arnold.


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    Arnold's soundtracks are so dull. Listen to Miami International from Casino Royale and tell me it is a quality composition. Useless noise.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Arnold's soundtracks are so dull. Listen to Miami International from Casino Royale and tell me it is a quality composition. Useless noise.

    It's not all bad. The Skyfleet reveal que is very John Barryesque.
  • Arnold's soundtracks are so dull. Listen to Miami International from Casino Royale and tell me it is a quality composition. Useless noise.

    On MI I'd agree, it's very difficult to write a 13 minute piece and not get redundant. I would have broken it up into smaller pieces. At least give the guy credit for having the guts to attempt it even if it didn't work out, most of the big name composers wouldn't have touched it and if they had, probably wouldn't have done much if better at all.

  • Pierceuhhh wrote:
    Miami Airport is one of the most boring scene in all 007 movies.
    Amd that include Thunderball LOL!

    What does this have to do with the music?
  • Pierceuhhh wrote:
    The scene was up for discussion if I am not mistake... forgive please chaps I am new to the boards and English is a struggel for me at time I must confess....

    No worries, but we were discussing music and how it was composed or went with the scene, not the scene itself.

    Bond and Carlos had a great fight there that I totally enjoy, I much prefer it to scenes when Brosnan evades tons of bullets without a scratch. Even when a former 00 is aiming.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Pierceuhhh wrote:
    Carlos you say...

    One of my issue with Casino Royale is that villains are too hunky... Carlos is a dream... like he from a boy band lol. Bond villain should be no hunkier than Bon himself!

    Carlos play by Claudio Snatamaria according to Wikipedier
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    Pierceuhhh wrote:
    The scene was up for discussion if I am not mistake... forgive please chaps I am new to the boards and English is a struggel for me at time I must confess....

    No worries, but we were discussing music and how it was composed or went with the scene, not the scene itself.

    Bond and Carlos had a great fight there that I totally enjoy, I much prefer it to scenes when Brosnan evades tons of bullets without a scratch. Even when a former 00 is aiming.

    Actually we're discussing who the composer for Bond 24 sould/will be.. but oh well 8-}
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    I would like to hear a new composer as DA has done enough and perhaps it is time to look for fresher sounds.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    TOFANA007 wrote:
    it will be john williams

    or hans zimmer
    How do you know, Captain Certainty? Is your vessel so confident and sturdy that you would bet money on it?
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 5
    I thought it was John More directing dammit... TOLDJA! said so... MARCO BELTRAMI is your new 007 composer.

    INTERSTELLAR is code name for Bond 24 like BLUE HARVEST was for Return of the Jedi... Paramount and WB are a front for MGM and Columbia...
  • You know, maybe if we all just ignore this @TOFANA007 he'll stop posting all this rubbish. I'm sick of coming on here to read all that made up incoherent B.S.

    Now, on the topic of composer, it really entirely depends on the director. I think EON is wanting to continue down the line of "prestige" directors, and most of them have preferred composers that they usually work with. The same usually goes for cinematographers. That being said, I'm not sure I see Arnold coming back unless the director or his/her composer of choice don't feel comfortable in scoring an action or Bond film.
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