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Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)

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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    edited December 5 Posts: 860
    Cameron has said yesterday in a interview that he has a notes on what he wants to do with the Terminator 7. He put his effort on it as a writer. What you guys think of that? I think he should direct it too. Somesort of a reboot should be option too because Dark Fate didnt set world on fire with Linda and Arnold. More new than old.
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 10,035
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Cameron has said yesterday in a interview that he has a notes on what he wants to do with the Terminator 7. He put his effort on it as a writer. What you guys think of that? I think he should direct it too. Somesort of a reboot should be option too because Dark Fate didnt set world on fire with Linda and Arnold. More new than old.

    Honestly I still need to see Genesys I left the franchise after 3 came back for the sarah connor chronicles and havent returned since
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,748
    I feel like Dark Fate is kind of as good at it'll get. It's not a bad film at all, and I thought it was better than the one before it, but it still felt tired and just with nowhere to go.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,498
    Still waiting for that Terminator film that depicts the future war just like as seen in the first two films. Right down to the blue lighting, lasers, sniffer dogs etc. Gimme two hours of that.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,748
    Well I guess they tried that with Salvation, and found out it wasn't enough for a full film.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Allegedly, Salvation was originally conceived much closer to what @QBranch described, but those plans were later altered. Once Bale was cast, he reportedly made demands that turned the original concept upside down. Connor wasn’t meant to be the main character, and the film was supposed to be bleaker and not PG-13. McG later said the studio pushed for a “four-quadrant audience”, in other words, “Make it more like Transformers.” They did, and they lost. What could have been a Mad Max-style vision of despair became a loud, expensive spectacle designed for boys with toys. Terminator Salvation alienated its core audience and failed to engage most others, resulting in yet another “part one” without a “part two,” despite its confident promotion as the start of a new trilogy.

    To be honest, the tonal whiplash from Reese’s grim memories in the original film to the video-game aesthetic of Salvation frustrated me as well, though not enough to dismiss the film outright as trash. It does contain some intriguing material. The visual spectacle is undeniably impressive. Perhaps McG’s R-rated director’s cut will surface someday, allowing us to experience a stronger film, much like Snyder’s cut of Justice League. The tie-in comics exploring a potential follow-up were also surprisingly solid, and after Genisys (and parts of Dark Fate), I found myself gravitating more toward what Salvation might have been.

    All things considered, I think the pooch was screwed with this series long ago. Two brilliant films should have been enough. The series could have lived on in excellent comic material (as it indeed did). I’ll throw T3 a bone out of sympathy, though I have serious issues with various aspects of it. I loved the direction The Sarah Connor Chronicles was taking, but then came the eternally disappointing cancellation. And honestly, I didn’t need any new films after that. Sometimes, the future really is best left “not set.”

    Salvation, even in its original form, risked revealing too much of the nightmare that gave the first two films their emotional power. Then Genisys tried rebooting the series as a “greatest hits” remix of Cameron’s classics, fun action at times, but ultimately pointless and, of course, abandoned. Dark Fate, the “legacy sequel,” showed moments of potential but didn’t impress me much either. That one, too, has gone nowhere.

    In the end, we’re left with two truly great films, and several follow-ups that never amounted to more than isolated attempts. Audiences today simply aren’t as invested in the Terminator universe as they were in the ’80s and early ’90s methinks. And wiping away the memory of these repeated false starts seems like a daunting task, one that may prevent any meaningful revival of interest in the foreseeable future.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    Posts: 860
    QBranch wrote: »
    Still waiting for that Terminator film that depicts the future war just like as seen in the first two films. Right down to the blue lighting, lasers, sniffer dogs etc. Gimme two hours of that.

    This or how about full reboot with new T-800 for example?
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