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Which actor would make a good Bond villain?

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  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited November 27 Posts: 16,312
    Venutius wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As you say though, new producers, new writers, new director, I don't think the old rules necessarily count.
    Yes, good point. Will Amazon want to just hit all the continuity marks in order to win over existing fans or change it up to put their own stamp on it? If so, which elements might they tweak and to what extent, etc. CR showed that it's possible to make a great film that includes both those approaches to some degree, so Villeneuve's comment that CR and SF are the reference points bodes well, I'd say.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'd love to see a villainess in the mold of Rosa Klebb or Irma Bunt.
    Irma Bunt was in a lot of the earlier SP drafts - did anyone ever hear any rumours about possible casting choices for the role back in 2014?

    I understand the skinny woman in the SPECTRE meeting was meant to be her in early drafts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I thought she fitted the villainess description perfectly, I wished they'd use her more, but I don't think she was Irma Bunt in the end. Neither did she remotely look like Bunt.

    Any butch looking actress who could play the role, or a similar one in a Bond film?
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Venutius wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As you say though, new producers, new writers, new director, I don't think the old rules necessarily count.
    Yes, good point. Will Amazon want to just hit all the continuity marks in order to win over existing fans or change it up to put their own stamp on it? If so, which elements might they tweak and to what extent, etc. CR showed that it's possible to make a great film that includes both those approaches to some degree, so Villeneuve's comment that CR and SF are the reference points bodes well, I'd say.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'd love to see a villainess in the mold of Rosa Klebb or Irma Bunt.
    Irma Bunt was in a lot of the earlier SP drafts - did anyone ever hear any rumours about possible casting choices for the role back in 2014?

    I though I remember hearing Tilda Swinton back then but I could be wrong.
  • HarmonyRocketsHarmonyRockets
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    Maybe Sandra Hüller for Irma Bunt? Or another female villian?
  • GerardGerard
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    On the strength of her performance as Madame Morrible in Wicked and Wicked : For Good, I wish to nominate Michele Yeoh. She would be great as a Dragon Lady type of villainess.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    She has had an impressive career since TND, but would people accept her as a villain in a Bond film.
    Personally I think she could be a great villain
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    HarmonyRockets wrote: »
    Maybe Sandra Hüller for Irma Bunt? Or another female villian?

    Or Nina Hoss. But they're both too good looking for Irma Bunt specifically. They need an heavy set and butch looking actress.
    Benny wrote: »
    She has had an impressive career since TND, but would people accept her as a villain in a Bond film.
    Personally I think she could be a great villain

    I find her rather overrated as an actress, to be honest. But that's for the controversial section.
  • Since62Since62
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    They won't select someone who is more famous than the actor portraying Bond, for any other role in the next film. And, since the actor portraying Bond in the next film might not be widely famous yet, that moves the ceiling, so to speak, down, and supports the notion that no other part will be played by a rather famous person.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Since62 wrote: »
    They won't select someone who is more famous than the actor portraying Bond, for any other role in the next film. And, since the actor portraying Bond in the next film might not be widely famous yet, that moves the ceiling, so to speak, down, and supports the notion that no other part will be played by a rather famous person.
    I think you might be wrong on this point. Dame Judy Dench was far more famous than Daniel Craig when Casino Royale was shot, and I expect ‘M’ at least to be played by someone famous that will lend an air of prestige to the production. If they can, they’ll go for someone relatively prestigious for the villain as well, but I think the pressure is less for the villain role, and bigger name actors may be wary of Amazon’s first Bond (though having Villeneuve at the helm should cure them of that worry). Amazon will really want this film to say that there will be no drop in quality when they take the reins. I expect them to throw money at this thing.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited December 3 Posts: 2,617
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    They won't select someone who is more famous than the actor portraying Bond, for any other role in the next film. And, since the actor portraying Bond in the next film might not be widely famous yet, that moves the ceiling, so to speak, down, and supports the notion that no other part will be played by a rather famous person.
    I think you might be wrong on this point. Dame Judy Dench was far more famous than Daniel Craig when Casino Royale was shot, and I expect ‘M’ at least to be played by someone famous that will lend an air of prestige to the production. If they can, they’ll go for someone relatively prestigious for the villain as well, but I think the pressure is less for the villain role, and bigger name actors may be wary of Amazon’s first Bond (though having Villeneuve at the helm should cure them of that worry). Amazon will really want this film to say that there will be no drop in quality when they take the reins. I expect them to throw money at this thing.


    The old Superman formula (a bunch of old actors with an unknown lead actor) can work with Bond

  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited December 3 Posts: 16,312
    I think it can go either way for the villain. I'd rather have a relatively unknown veteran, but that's just me. If they go with the later Craig approach, they'll go famous.

    How about David Oyelowo? I liked him as Javert, even though his casting and others in Les Miserables made the French Monarchy look surprisingly liberal. But he played it fittingly menacing.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited December 3 Posts: 3,423
    At this distance, it's sometimes easy to forget just how much actual credibility Daniel Craig restored to the Bond films. We all remember how Jesper Christiansen said he'd regarded them. He probably wasn't the only one - some of the more high profile actors in Craig's films said that they wanted to be in a Bond film precisely because of Dan and what he'd done with the series. Which implies that they might not have gone near Bond beforehand. With Dan gone, will there be that same attraction for actors like those to get involved? Then again, given the number of famous actors who happily appear in superhero movies, has that old 'pop culture' stigma now vanished completely? Dunno.
  • SeanoSeano Minnesota. No, it's not always cold.
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    Given the team Amazon has put together for Bond 26, I don't think there's going to be too much difficulty attracting folks for this one. As for beyond that, we'll see.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Venutius wrote: »
    At this distance, it's sometimes easy to forget just how much actual credibility Daniel Craig restored to the Bond films. We all remember how Jesper Christiansen said he'd regarded them. He probably wasn't the only one - some of the more high profile actors in Craig's films said that they wanted to be in a Bond film precisely because of Dan and what he'd done with the series. Which implies that they might not have gone near Bond beforehand. With Dan gone, will there be that same attraction for actors like those to get involved? Then again, given the number of famous actors who happily appear in superhero movies, has that old 'pop culture' stigma now vanished completely? Dunno.

    For the next film I think the draw would be Denis Villeneuve.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Good point. Actors will always want to work with Villeneuve, no matter the project.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Ben Kingsley would make a great villian.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Ben Kingsley would make a great villian.

    Fantastic actor with great career.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    I think it would be great to have a famous actor/actress in the villain role. It will certainly attract people curious about what kind of villain that person would be.

    The aforementioned Michelle Yeoh would be very good. I'd also love Maud Adams to come back one more time, as a nice wink to the past and leaving in the middle if she is the same person as in octopussy or not.

  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Ben Kingsley would make a great villian.

    He's a bit too old now, I'd say. I'm all for more mature villains, but he's elderly.
  • renno61renno61
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    mtm wrote: »
    Get old Jorma Tommila from Sisu in; he's got plenty of screen presence.

    Yes I could see him in a Bond movie,same movie Aksel Hennie who plays the villain in Sisu would be good choice
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    renno61 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Get old Jorma Tommila from Sisu in; he's got plenty of screen presence.

    Yes I could see him in a Bond movie,same movie Aksel Hennie who plays the villain in Sisu would be good choice

    I better check him out @mtm and @renno61 . I haven't seen him in anything as far as I can remember, but he's got the kind of background and CV I've always been advocating for Bond villain actors: Nordic origins, veteran but fairly unknown, with a few well received projects under his belt. He's getting on in years so he'd need to be cast for the next Bond, right now he's juuuuuust in the right age range. If they take the casting approach of the early Craig era (pre SF), I'd say he'd have a chance.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    Never seen the appeal of Aksel Hennie myself, though he's very popular for some reason. I find him very bland. There are a lot of better Scandinavian actors out there.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited December 7 Posts: 16,312
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Never seen the appeal of Aksel Hennie myself, though he's very popular for some reason. I find him very bland. There are a lot of better Scandinavian actors out there.

    Don't know him, but he'd be the perfect age now. His face is kinda bland, from the photos I have seen, I'd give you that.

    I'll repeat what I said before, here and elsewhere: I hope one day Scandinavian becomes the default nationality when casting a Bond villain. Or a villain in general. Casting Brits is now a bit too careful and tired, if not downright lazy (albeit I'm conscious I suggested many British actors in this very thread).
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Headhunters is why Aksel Hennie is popular outside of Norway. It was one of the few non-English language films that I saw being sold on dvd in WHSmiths back in the day (in the UK). The movie magazines loved it, too. It’s a good film that sticks in your mind, and Aksel Hennie is front and centre all the way through.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Never seen the appeal of Aksel Hennie myself, though he's very popular for some reason. I find him very bland. There are a lot of better Scandinavian actors out there.

    Don't know him, but he'd be the perfect age now. His face is kinda bland, from the photos I have seen, I'd give you that.

    I'll repeat what I said before, here and elsewhere: I hope one day Scandinavian becomes the default nationality when casting a Bond villain. Or a villain in general. Casting Brits is now a bit too careful and tired, if not downright lazy (albeit I'm conscious I suggested many British actors in this very thread).

    To me at least, his acting is more bland than his face. I guess his best role (to me at least), is his role as Max Manus in the movie with the same name. There are several other actors from that film that I'd rather see in a Bond film though.
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Headhunters is why Aksel Hennie is popular outside of Norway. It was one of the few non-English language films that I saw being sold on dvd in WHSmiths back in the day (in the UK). The movie magazines loved it, too. It’s a good film that sticks in your mind, and Aksel Hennie is front and centre all the way through.

    Haven't seen the film in a long time, though I do remember liking the novel by Jo Nesbø a lot more. Interestingly, Morten Tyldum, the director, did confirm having talks with Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson at some point after having made the film.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    It all depends of the approach they'll have. If they follow with the later Craig era, then my money is on Cillian Murphy, or another Oscar winner. If they go for the early Craig era approach, then the likes of Aksel Hennies are far more likely.
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