Which actor would make a good Bond villain?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 30 Posts: 18,926
    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I generally prefer when they go for an actor who can conpletely blend in the role, which tends to work better imo with unknown veterans. My ideal villain casting from the Craig era was Mads Mikkelsen: pretty much unknown when cast, at least outside Denmark, long experience, mature looking enough. But that's what I'd like to see. Anyway, if I had to bet, my money would be on Murphy. For the record, if he does get cast, I'd call it first.

    Oh, if there's a Mads Mikelsen type who is lesser known outside their country, but has a distinctive screen presence, charisma, and a unique take on the villain, I'd say go for them. As with Mikelsen they may well become a break out actor in the future anyway.

    But I think it's always worth saying lesser known character actors who 'blend into the role' don't always give us the best villains necessarily. Curt Jurgens, Mathieu Amalric, Julian Glover etc. I think all their villains lack the personality that we could have gotten from perhaps more dynamic actors. In fact, I'd argue if TSWLM is crying out for anything, it's a more distinctive, bigger name actor as the villain. It'd just suit the scale of the film. Not to say lesser knows are always chameleonic character actors who might give us a flat baddie (it depends). And of course an Oscar winning actor could give us an underwhelming performance too.

    Yeah Spy is missing a good villain, although I guess Jaws actually manages to make up for him.
    It's hard to tell how it's going to go: lots of people say they'd cast someone else as Blofeld in Spectre, but I think in 2014 or so any one of us would have leapt at Christolph Waltz playing him after Inglourious Basterds, Django etc. - he's incredible in those other films. (I still don't think he's as bad as Blofeld as lots of folks say, but regardless).
    Likewise Jonathan Pryce, someone I was really excited for and yet he didn't quite meet what I was hoping for; even so i think he's no disaster.
    007HallY wrote: »

    It's why I think Greene in QOS is a missed opportunity. He's such a nasty character who gets inside people's heads, and yet his final confrontation with Bond is a fight. It doesn't quite work because we know Bond will win. Would have been cool to see Greene manage to trip Bond up a bit by taunting him and then wounding him during the fight.

    I kind of don't mind what they were going for with that: Greene is like a cornered animal at that point and just goes goblin mode; Bond can't really predict what he's going to do and he's just liable to hurt himself as Bond (which of course he does do) and that makes him dangerous, especially with an axe. It's quite an interesting moment, although it's no big showdown as you say. I still rather like Amalric in that film, he gives good creepy when he's afforded the chance. But he doesn't get to look Bond in the eye much, which Mikkelsen got to do loads of, and I think that helps a baddie a lot.
    I often think Amalric would have made a good Le Chiffre too.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    What Greene needed was a big, muscular bodyguard, a brute devoted to his master. His Luca Brasi. Like say Robert Maillet (I remember him from that rubbish Holmes movie). Bond wants to get to Greene, he has to go through the bodyguard first. Then you have a completely different climax.

    Yeah, Forster was trying to subvert the norm with Elvis, but it's a joke which crashes to the ground every time. There may well have been a writers strike on, but shooting a comedy character and it coming out as baffling rather than funny is just bad direction, pure and simple. Maybe some of the worst direction in the whole series in fact; John Glen might be bland but I struggle to think of many other situations where you're not actually sure of what the film is trying to say to you.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Pascal was a good baddie in Kingsman, but I don’t really imagine them going for him.

    He's overexposed now. Cast in too many projects. I dream of a week without Pedro Pascal.
    He is in Fantastic Four too.
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Pascal was a good baddie in Kingsman, but I don’t really imagine them going for him.

    He's overexposed now. Cast in too many projects. I dream of a week without Pedro Pascal.
    He is in Fantastic Four too.

    I rest my case.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Pascal was a good baddie in Kingsman, but I don’t really imagine them going for him.
    And in Equalizer 2.

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    I’m not sure about female villain. I would find the sight of Bond beating up a woman distasteful.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Troy wrote: »
    I’m not sure about female villain. I would find the sight of Bond beating up a woman distasteful.

    Grow up. They should totally establish an evil version of Ana De Armas, and have her kick Bond's ass. That would be awesome.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Bond doesn't come to blows with all of the main villains; I think he's only had one punch up with Blofeld for example, despite meeting him in five or so films.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Bond doesn't come to blows with all of the main villains; I think he's only had one punch up with Blofeld for example, despite meeting him in five or so films.

    To be fair, they usually try to avoid direct confrontations with a villainess. Rosa Klebb is killed by Tania, he does not shoot Fiona Volpe, I think he only ever kills Elektra directly. I cannot remember how Irma Bunt dies.
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    Troy wrote: »
    I’m not sure about female villain. I would find the sight of Bond beating up a woman distasteful.
    That's what henchmen are for.
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