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For a Bond villain? I mean he's not geriatric.
As a henchman masaayyyybe. But I find his face rather ordinary.
First ever saw him in Fast and Furious.
I thinking on the line of the Robert Shaw (Grant) character,maybe even a brother and sister team
Sorry yes, thought I was in the other thread!
To have a character like Grant, you need an actor at the level of Robert Shaw. A tall order. I genuinely think he was the greatest actor to ever play in a Bond film.
Good pick he is great actor.
If im honest Craig would have been better Grant type of villain than Bond.
Yes I think his strongest performances have always been as villains rather than as Bond. If he'd had half the charisma he had in Rocketeer or Hot Fuzz in TLD or LTK, he'd have been a great Bond.
I prefer him to Lazenby, certainly.
I'd have liked to have seen him with a different director, maybe someone else would have got more out of him.
Yeah, I love Dalton's Bond but the charisma of the villain is different from the charisma of the (anti)hero.
I’d say that he isn’t as charismatic as Connery, Moore, or Brosnan but there are moments where he does have that twinkle in the eye - such as the end of TLD pre title for instance. It’s also easy to forget that they were trying to craft something different to the easy going nature of Moore’s portrayal and his era in general. In that context, Dalton succeeded.
Ditto - him and about 3 others. Dalton shot his way up my rankings after my last couple viewings of his films.
I would have too - apparently he ended up getting into a bit of a conflict with John Glen during LTK towards the end of that shoot. I wonder what that was over.
After Lazenby I find him the least of them. All of the others remembered that Bond should have that self-confident swagger, that's what audiences love about the character. But Dalton missed it, and he wasn't a hit as a consequence. Craig's Bond is a much more successful version for my money because he kept what was successful about the screen Bond and added the danger of the books in. I can't imagine Dalton doing the Ocean Club car parking bit of CR and making it as fun as Craig, but Craig feels completely like the Bond we love in that bit to me.
In his villainous roles Dalton can be a bit more full of himself, and he seems weirdly more like Bond in them as a result than he ever did playing Bond. When I watch Rocketeer I want that guy as 007.
Craig would have been great as Red Grant, but he was also great as Bond. In truth, Robert Shaw could have been a pretty great Bond too.
Really? I didn't know that. I think LTK could have been stronger with a different director, yeah.
I don’t really like that Valet bit in CR - I just found that reaction to be a bit immature and childish on Bond’s part - the moment in the bar where those patrons recognize Bond is pretty funny though. I wouldn’t say that Dalton lacks the self confident swagger needed for Bond because there’s that wonderful moment in LTK where he’s meeting Sanchez for the first time and Sanchez states that he’ll need special talents to join his cartel and Bond looks to Sanchez’ other thugs and states that shouldn’t be too difficult with a tone of arrogance in his voice. That and the way he casually makes his way towards the opposite rooftop in order to assassinate Sanchez by disguising himself as a waiter shows he was perfectly capable of showing that swagger needed for Bond. I also think he succeeds more than Craig (and the others) at capturing the spirit of Fleming’s Bond - to the point where I’m picturing him as I’m currently going through the novels.
I disagree with the notion that Dalton’s portrayal was the reason he wasn’t a hit with audiences. It’s true that the critics found him to be “too dark and dreary” (as if critics opinions ever mattered on these sorts of things) but from what I can tell audiences were more dissatisfied that it wasn’t Pierce Brosnan in the role after all the media hype in 87 - and Dalton was viewed more as the backup choice. I don’t think it helped too that when compared to other blockbusters of that time - his two Bond films feel quite dated by the standards of those times. Compare Last Crusade and Batman to Licence to Kill and you begin to realize where and how LTK struggles in comparison to those two films. In the end, I think Dalton really could’ve done with a different director and a stronger script - not that I would call LTK a weak script mind you.
As far as Dalton and Glen, these were some tidbits I found. I wouldn’t take it as gospel - nothing like the info provided here is expanded on in Some Kind of Hero - but it’s quite interesting to read nonetheless;
https://debrief.commanderbond.net/topic/55299-dalton-vs-glen/page-1.html
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1583878/James-Bond-Timothy-Dalton-Licence-to-Kill-director-John-Glen/amp