Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 1 Posts: 19,235
    He's good in Guinness then? I haven't watched it yet. I think the only thing I've seen him in might be Argylle, and he's only got about one line in that! :D
  • edited October 1 Posts: 6,031
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    edited October 1 Posts: 348
    No to Dickinson, no to Callum Turner.

    Suter and Partridge however should get a screentest

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  • edited October 1 Posts: 6,031
    Off topic, but if they're doing Robin one of the next Batman films, I can legit see Partidge doing that.

    I'm not even sure if Suter's a great film actor, let alone a good potential Bond ;) In that 'not quite right' category for me, but his voice might be good for a Bond video game or radio/podcast adaptation of Fleming.

    But what will be will be I suppose.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).

    Yes agreed, Dickinson just is a top movie actor and well on his way to being a star, he just is.
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    Must say, Partridge stole the entire show in House of Guiness. The kid has acting chops and presence. Just buff him up a bit and he'd be perfect for the role. He looks like a 27 year old, btw, or even older.
  • edited October 1 Posts: 6,031
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).

    Yes agreed, Dickinson just is a top movie actor and well on his way to being a star, he just is.

    Oh yeah. Whether he translates to Bond or not is another thing, but I can't fault this guy's talent nor his experience in film and high end tv for his age. A Murder at the End of the World, Triangle of Sadness, Babygirl etc.

    Nah, I'm sorry, but Patridge before this Guinness role (as far as I know) and Suter aren't anywhere near Dickinson in terms of being captivating onscreen actors from what I've seen of all of them (one is too young, and the other may well continue to be a TV actor with some minor supporting roles at best), again at least at the moment. That's not even an indication of whether they'll be Bond or not, or what any will do later on. But there's a reason why Dickinson has as much buzz around him for Bond as he does.
    Univex wrote: »
    Must say, Partridge stole the entire show in House of Guiness. The kid has acting chops and presence. Just buff him up a bit and he'd be perfect for the role. He looks like a 27 year old, btw, or even older.

    I'll have to give it a watch. I'm sure he's great in it (again, a good actor from what I've seen, although a bit green). I'm not sure he looks 27 or older, but that's just me.
  • Posts: 7,037
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).

    Yes agreed, Dickinson just is a top movie actor and well on his way to being a star, he just is.

    Oh yeah. Whether he translates to Bond or not is another thing, but I can't fault this guy's talent nor his experience in film and high end tv for his age. A Murder at the End of the World, Triangle of Sadness, Babygirl etc.

    Nah, I'm sorry, but Patridge before this Guinness role (as far as I know) and Suter aren't anywhere near Dickinson in terms of being captivating onscreen actors from what I've seen of all of them (one is too young, and the other may well continue to be a TV actor with some minor supporting roles at best), again at least at the moment. That's not even an indication of whether they'll be Bond or not, or what any will do later on. But there's a reason why Dickinson has as much buzz around him for Bond as he does.
    Univex wrote: »
    Must say, Partridge stole the entire show in House of Guiness. The kid has acting chops and presence. Just buff him up a bit and he'd be perfect for the role. He looks like a 27 year old, btw, or even older.

    I'll have to give it a watch. I'm sure he's great in it (again, a good actor from what I've seen, although a bit green). I'm not sure he looks 27 or older, but that's just me.

    I meant he looked older in the show ;) In character.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 1 Posts: 19,235
    I started Guinness this evening, I must say it gives further reason to think Knight will turn out a very engaging snappy script. He does love to start all of his series with a really great, in media res sort of opening which grabs you, so the PTS is likely to be a killer!

    Partridge is fine so far, I'm certainly not going to say he's bad because he's not. I'm not really blown away so far though, and if you had to pick anyone from this show to be Bond it would be Norton as he does a very good job in the sexy swaggery, more dangerous role and actually gives a lot more charisma than I've seen him show before. Anthony Boyle is really quite good too, I can see him doing it just as well.
    Niamh McCormack is also a standout; she'd fit in a Bond very well and has plenty of presence.
  • edited October 1 Posts: 6,031
    Univex wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).

    Yes agreed, Dickinson just is a top movie actor and well on his way to being a star, he just is.

    Oh yeah. Whether he translates to Bond or not is another thing, but I can't fault this guy's talent nor his experience in film and high end tv for his age. A Murder at the End of the World, Triangle of Sadness, Babygirl etc.

    Nah, I'm sorry, but Patridge before this Guinness role (as far as I know) and Suter aren't anywhere near Dickinson in terms of being captivating onscreen actors from what I've seen of all of them (one is too young, and the other may well continue to be a TV actor with some minor supporting roles at best), again at least at the moment. That's not even an indication of whether they'll be Bond or not, or what any will do later on. But there's a reason why Dickinson has as much buzz around him for Bond as he does.
    Univex wrote: »
    Must say, Partridge stole the entire show in House of Guiness. The kid has acting chops and presence. Just buff him up a bit and he'd be perfect for the role. He looks like a 27 year old, btw, or even older.

    I'll have to give it a watch. I'm sure he's great in it (again, a good actor from what I've seen, although a bit green). I'm not sure he looks 27 or older, but that's just me.

    I meant he looked older in the show ;) In character.

    Just finished the first episode. It’s not my cup of tea - or pint of Guinness - unfortunately. Good production design, direction, and cinematography, but it’s a bit talky and stereotypically televisual for large portions, if that makes sense. Even with a few bigger and more energetic scenes. It was like a more stylish version of an old BBC period drama (again, it’s just not my thing). I can appreciate the writing and production work, but I didn’t feel much towards most of the characters.

    Partridge is fine, although I’m not seeing Bond at all. He has this tendency to frown a lot. It’s not fair because it’s not meant to be a Bond audition, so I don’t think it says anything about his potential further down the line. But no, he’s no Harris Dickinson, and he looks like a guy in his early 20s to me ;)

    I don’t think he was the most captivating actor in that episode by any means either. James Norton and Niamh McCormack I thought more interesting than him (incidentally, I think Norton gets way too much criticism on these forums just because he’s not the best fit for Bond - he’s a pretty good character actor! McCormack’s performance I liked a lot and I think she’s got a strong screen presence and distinctive face). But again, maybe this just wasn’t my thing.

    I suppose Patridge has a chiselled chin and sort of looks like a very young version of Timothy Dalton almost, so I understand it's somewhat easier to slot him into 'Bond' in some people's minds... although as I said I don't think he inherently gives off the same harder edged or even brooding impression as Dalton, nor do I think there's much in his performances to say he's at his strongest as an actor currently, let alone a potential Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah, despite being absolutely terrific in Happy Valley, James Norton has never quite caught my attention in terms of top lead actors, but he has got something about him in this. I still don't think he'd be my top pick for Bond, but he could do it and make a very decent job of it.
  • edited 8:19am Posts: 2,421
    House of Guinness is a Steven Knight's series...At least they already know him.

    This is something that Leo Suter doesn't have.

    Louis Partridge is very young in any case. I mean, I want to see another Bond actor before I die.
  • edited 8:59am Posts: 4,456
    This from World of Reel



    The new Frankenstein trailer looks good and he does his English accent and has a haunting voice



    In this video he is so fine and cool. He looks so much like Bond to me. It's hard to imagine why people aren't vibing with his choice. He's perfect.

  • edited 9:33am Posts: 6,031
    Ah yes, Jacob Elordi, that unknown British actor…

    Wouldn’t be my choice, but as I’ve always said it’s not stupid considering him. But honestly, I think this all just shows we’re very much in rumour mill mode with this film. World of Reel’s not exactly always 100% accurate, and the last Variety and Deadline articles even acknowledged they were speculating in places, but there’s probably grains of truth to all this. Probably more in the sense they’re considering all their options before going into casting though. It’s often the case studios push for higher profile actors for big roles, but it doesn’t mean that’ll actually be the choice in practice (depends whether the actor wants to do it, or maybe it becomes apparent they’re not right, or maybe a better candidate crops up etc. But no, this doesn’t mean Elordi will be Bond anymore than it was guaranteed Wolverine would be played by Russell Crowe, or that someone like Cary Grant or Richard Burton were to be Bond in ‘62. It doesn’t mean he won’t be the pick either, mind).

    I think it all just comes back to the idea this isn’t a process we’re part of/are looking from afar on. It’s too early to say for sure who Bond will be played by.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    He’s never been my favourite and I was a bit baffled when he was first suggested, but I’ve grown to think he’s eminently possible and his growing profile has made him more likely a choice. I think he’s currently in that sweet spot of the burgeoning stardom from which it’s a perfect time to choose him, a bit like Dickinson really, although he’s probably slightly further ahead. I certainly wouldn’t rule him out now, and I can see why the studio might be keen on him if the story’s true, he has growing appeal.
  • Posts: 2,421
    I think Hollywood is already giving him his chance to be a star without Bond. He's the current Clive Owen. I think it's a little late to hire him now.
  • Posts: 16,140
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I know what you mean: I tend to think anyone who’s becoming a favourite now isn’t the one who it’ll turn out to be! I’d be happy with Dickinson though, he’s a very good actor and I think he’d do something good with it.

    As an aside, I really wish someone would tell Josh Horowitz that a good interviewer shuts up when your interviewee is talking, they don’t constantly say “yeah… yeah… yeah” all the way though. He’s annoyed me for a while with that! :)

    A bit like the pope: whoever enters the Conclave as pope leaves as cardinal.

    Heh! I've not heard that before, that's a good one.

    Not sure how applicable it is to Bond, but the media's favourite, or the general public's favourite rarely ends up being Bond. It only ever happened with Brosnan, I think, and even he suffered from entering the process as Bond in 1986.
    How about Moore in 1973?

    Yeah, should probably have added it, Moore too, although I'm not sure how the general public was following it then. In any case, Moore and Brosnan (one out of two for the latter), overall my comparison stands.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think Hollywood is already giving him his chance to be a star without Bond. He's the current Clive Owen. I think it's a little late to hire him now.

    Yeah you might be right. Things are looking up for him and he has a couple of potentially big films in the pipeline; I would imagine if they offered him Bond today it could be a very tough choice for him- he might be better off doing his own thing rather than being shackled to that character.
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    I definitely think that's a choice the likes of Elordi and Dickinson will have to make. There's a good case to be made that the better path for both is to do their own thing. At the end of the day only one person will get this role, and it's potentially a massive commitment.
  • Posts: 2,421
    mtm wrote: »
    I think Hollywood is already giving him his chance to be a star without Bond. He's the current Clive Owen. I think it's a little late to hire him now.

    Yeah you might be right. Things are looking up for him and he has a couple of potentially big films in the pipeline; I would imagine if they offered him Bond today it could be a very tough choice for him- he might be better off doing his own thing rather than being shackled to that character.


    The problem I see is that he could be too successful or too unsuccessful for Bond. Both possibilities are bad. ;)

    The die is cast for Elordi.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    edited 11:14am Posts: 348
    Elordi the grasshopper, nope.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I hope Elordi and Harris both join Clive Owen on the list of “ sure thing “ potential Bonds who are never cast.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    I rather Amazon get a true unknown than these youngers out of Hollywood. I feel Hollywood these days is looking to promote a certain type and rather than being forced to pick amongst their litter they should make their own star instead.

    I think get true unknown is very interesting too.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).

    How would you describe Cavill in his early 20s?
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I know what you mean: I tend to think anyone who’s becoming a favourite now isn’t the one who it’ll turn out to be! I’d be happy with Dickinson though, he’s a very good actor and I think he’d do something good with it.

    As an aside, I really wish someone would tell Josh Horowitz that a good interviewer shuts up when your interviewee is talking, they don’t constantly say “yeah… yeah… yeah” all the way though. He’s annoyed me for a while with that! :)

    A bit like the pope: whoever enters the Conclave as pope leaves as cardinal.

    Heh! I've not heard that before, that's a good one.

    Not sure how applicable it is to Bond, but the media's favourite, or the general public's favourite rarely ends up being Bond. It only ever happened with Brosnan, I think, and even he suffered from entering the process as Bond in 1986.
    How about Moore in 1973?

    Yeah, should probably have added it, Moore too, although I'm not sure how the general public was following it then. In any case, Moore and Brosnan (one out of two for the latter), overall my comparison stands.

    I would say Dalton isnt too much behind when compared Moore and Brosnan.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    @MSL49 Please use the edit function and don’t triple post.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I know what you mean: I tend to think anyone who’s becoming a favourite now isn’t the one who it’ll turn out to be! I’d be happy with Dickinson though, he’s a very good actor and I think he’d do something good with it.

    As an aside, I really wish someone would tell Josh Horowitz that a good interviewer shuts up when your interviewee is talking, they don’t constantly say “yeah… yeah… yeah” all the way though. He’s annoyed me for a while with that! :)

    A bit like the pope: whoever enters the Conclave as pope leaves as cardinal.

    Heh! I've not heard that before, that's a good one.

    Not sure how applicable it is to Bond, but the media's favourite, or the general public's favourite rarely ends up being Bond. It only ever happened with Brosnan, I think, and even he suffered from entering the process as Bond in 1986.
    How about Moore in 1973?

    Yeah, should probably have added it, Moore too, although I'm not sure how the general public was following it then. In any case, Moore and Brosnan (one out of two for the latter), overall my comparison stands.

    I would say Dalton isnt too much behind when compared Moore and Brosnan.

    The general public in the UK didn’t know who Dalton was. My mum told me he was ‘some American’. Most kids here were hoping for Lewis Collins (‘Bodie’ from The Professionals), and I would say he was the Clive Owen of his day.
  • edited 1:45pm Posts: 6,031
    MSL49 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).

    How would you describe Cavill in his early 20s?

    Much more stereotypically masculine than Partidge, regardless of what I think of him as an actor ;)
    talos7 wrote: »
    I hope Elordi and Harris both join Clive Owen on the list of “ sure thing “ potential Bonds who are never cast.

    Honestly, there's a good chance both are unlikely to get the role. It's not an issue of fate or the most discussed person destined not to get the role. It's just that there are so many possibilities.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
    edited 2:04pm Posts: 1,125
    007HallY wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, he was fine I guess in the Argylle post credits... I'm not sure he really screamed Bond though.... same for Enola Holmes.

    Honestly, the boy's so young I think it's impossible to tell if there's any Bond potential there. I personally find him a bit feminine/androgynous looking (he's a good looking kid, but I think that element is something he leans into and is part of his appeal. It's no slight against how he comes off onscreen or how he could look when he's older - but again, it doesn't scream Bond to me right now, and it's all part of that sense he's simply way too young, or potentially really not right for the role anyway). He's a good actor and I'm sure he has great stuff ahead. That said I don't think he's even comparable to Henry Cavill when he was in his early 20s. And no, I certainly wouldn't say from what I've seen he's a better actor, nor does he have a more commanding screen presence than Harris Dickinson (I can understand having reservations about Dickinson as Bond or thinking he doesn't quite have the right qualities for the character, but the guy is genuinely a magnetic actor, and I'd say he made much more impact onscreen when he was Partridge's age - Beach Rats, Postcards From London etc).

    How would you describe Cavill in his early 20s?

    Much more stereotypically masculine than Partidge, regardless of what I think of him as an actor ;)
    talos7 wrote: »
    I hope Elordi and Harris both join Clive Owen on the list of “ sure thing “ potential Bonds who are never cast.

    Honestly, there's a good chance both are unlikely to get the role. It's not an issue of fate or the most discussed person destined not to get the role. It's just that there are so many possibilities.

    I remember seeing Cavill in The Count of Monte Cristo and I Capture the Castle and being surprised to hear he had been in the running for Superman (the one he didn’t get). He just seemed too boyish and wimpy. I wouldn’t have said Partridge, from what little I’ve seen of him (Enola Holmes 2), appears less masculine, imo.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Given the late 20's/early 30's young Bond criteria, I wonder who the top 5 are for screentest? How young/old will they go? 26 to 35 years old?

    Does it rule out for example, James Norton, Josh O'Connor and maybe even Aaron Taylor Johnson
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