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After such a long wait, we need a big reveal of our new James Bond.
Completely agree. TLD's hero shot of Bond in the pre-title sequence is exquisite. I think unarguably the best since Dr. No up to that point.
I'm still a bit salty this wasn't our reveal of Brosnan as Bond, it's so iconic. Anything nearly as cool as this would be great
It really gives you a sense of Brosnan’s Bond and the duality he gave to the character. And it’s a very distinctive face reveal for Bond. They do it again quite overtly when he’s holding Xenia at gunpoint in the car, all serious and his face in shadow, only for him to lean forward, grinning with the line ‘I had a lovely evening’ (followed by him knocking Xenia out). It all feels quite balanced and natural. I like Dalton and TLD’s PTS - and his reveal is certainly cinematic with the push in - but it doesn’t quite have that same tongue in cheek feel to it, nor do I think it’s quite as cleverly done.
Oh for what it’s worth it’s one of my favourite PTS’s. I like that we see all these other Bondian looking 00s get killed off before we reveal our new actor. It’s great.
Different types of introductions to different Bonds through. I think to Brosnan’s credit him and his film seem much more comfortable slipping between humour and seriousness, and I get the sense they didn’t quite tailor the introduction to Dalton’s portrayal of the character in the same way they did for Brosnan. I personally think Dalton flubs the last part where he finds himself on the yacht with the girl (his ‘Bond, James Bond’ is very rushed, and I don’t think he’s able to play up the humour of the scene, although admittedly it’s an odd time for that sort of moment considering all of Bond’s colleagues have been murdered. I guess they wanted an opening that displayed all the sides of Bond though, but again Dalton doesn’t come off as very comfortable doing it. Not quite sure why he’s been directed to lounge on the sunbed when making this urgent phone call. Very odd. May as well have just poured himself some champagne while he was at it!)
As far as introductions to new actors go, I’d say GE is better. It immediately gives you an idea of who this new Bond is. Same for the CR opening (both involve Bond being introduced in a bathroom I guess, but very different scenes!) That’s what I’d hope for the next Bond’s introduction - something striking and unique to this new version. Not just a nicely lit shot or trying to stuff a bunch of Bondian things into a single PTS.
Yeah I think Dalton is great in most of that PTS, but Brosnan would have handled that last scene with more ease.
Ah, that's where we differ. I liked Daltons delivery of the Bond line, because it was more natural and realistic. It's the way someone would have said their name quickly, as they were about to report in. I believed Dalton when he said his name was Bond, as opposed to Brossa who says it in a more laboured and forced way! I didn't believe Brossa when he says it ( and half expected Onatopp to reply "No, you're not, you're that Remington Steele bloke off the telly!")
Dalton's brilliantly nonchalant delivery of the line in Daylights got a laugh from the audience i saw it with way back then..!
Hmm, might just be me then. I think if there’s ever a time to not necessarily be realistic in a Bond film, it’s when the lead actor delivers that badass, iconic line while a beautiful woman becomes so enamoured by him that she invites him for a drink. It’s just not something that can be done ‘realistically’ because it’s part of the tongue in cheek nature of Bond. It can be done/recited naturally I guess (insofar as the actor understands the tone of the moment), but I personally think Dalton comes across as a bit awkward during that part anyway, so he doesn’t have that going for him. There’s actually this odd disconnect between how he plays it and how you can tell the script is trying to depict it (and again, presumably the way he’s been directed isn’t helping - again, him just lying down during this urgent call. Better to be fully standing, surely? You’d also want to emphasise the delivery of the James Bond line as that’d give the edit the opportunity to make the most of that reaction shot of the actress/show her ‘falling’ for Bond. Dalton seems to be rushing through the scene and all comes off a bit breathless and contrived, and I don’t think his performance choices are doing the actress any favours). I don’t think Dalton really understood how to approach those sorts of Bond moments, and here I think they gave him material that didn’t quite play to his strengths.
For me Brosnan nailed the line every time he did it, and he actually had a surprising amount of effective acting each time (I think he conveys perfectly in GE the idea that he’s trying to work out who Onnatop is/is playing her a bit. It’s certainly something none of the actors who read for Bond with that scene did anywhere near as effectively! It’s why I often say I think Brosnan’s GE performance is a better cinematic one than either of Dalton’s).
Sounds like an unintentional laugh honestly.
Many thanks! Yes, they always deliver something brilliant and full of force with the first one, it always seems to be one of the more exciting installments in an era. Can't wait to see what they're cooking up.
Pretty intentional from how i see it...He's in a hurry to contact control. Then puts the brakes on when she asks him to join her. Lighthearted and Bondian after a blistering PTS.
Hmm... yeah, it's never tracked for me. Again, all strangely directed. I get that it's there as a reprieve from the PTS, but it never seemed to be written as a knee slapping moment or some sort of subversion of the iconic line. If anything that's when you want the actor to nail the line, not laugh at it.
Anyway, getting back on topic, I hope the next Bond gets an introduction which suits them. I don't think we'll quite get the brutal, harder edged one of CR, nor will it be quite like anything the others got (to a point anyway). They don't even need to stuff the PTS with Bond seducing a woman or saying the iconic line (that'll come eventually, and they can certainly do it shortly afterwards in the film).