007 First Light - IO Interactive - The New James Bond Video Game

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  • mtm wrote: »
    I've only recently got a PS5: is Hitman Worlds of Assassination worth a punt? Or is it Hitman 3, I don't quite understand which is which.

    Absolutely yes, exceptional games once you get the hang of them (and lots for a Bond fan to enjoy). One downside though is how confusingly they were released. I believe world of assassination is all three games’ content packed in one using Hitman 3 as the launcher, you might want to see if there’s a guide online for making sure you’re buying and downloading the correct package however.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    I've only recently got a PS5: is Hitman Worlds of Assassination worth a punt? Or is it Hitman 3, I don't quite understand which is which.

    The 3 games have been rolled into 1 as World Of Assassination. So get Hitman 3, and you get the base games of H1 and H2 included.
  • RyanRyan Canada
    edited July 1 Posts: 738
    Yes, at this point if you haven't been buying them along the way - just get World of Assassination so you have the most complete experience (although there is still extra DLC to be had as well). It's very convoluted and much a result of the studio buying its freedom and watching the budgets for a while.

    "Welcome Hitman 3, or is that World of Assassination? I'm a little confused."

    "Well we wouldn't want that, would we?"
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Great thank you. Although I am a little confused now yes :D
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    This all sounds very promising. I think approaching it from Hitman as the starting point but then realizing that you need a bit more structure - or funneling as they call it in the interview - to make it a tighter more story-driven game makes sense. I do wonder if there are some story necessities that maybe get taken out on re-play so that you can explore the various locations more freely, after you've done the story the "correct" way once. Them putting new targets and storylines - like the Le Chiffre contract they currently have - into existing maps is one of the coolest things about Hitman.

    I also think it's a positive sign that they realized that the combat mechanics weren't Hitman's strong suit. Maybe that sounds weird for someone who's only heard about Hitman and thinks a game about the world's greatest assassin would be a great combat game, but that's really not what it is. These last games are more about the interaction with the world and stealth and not about shooting and punching your way out of trouble. At the same time, I am a bit apprehensive, as change doesn't immediatly have to be great. So if the melee "game within a game" is too convoluted f.e. and shooting is just always the more convenient option, that's also not great. There are dozens of games where the designers advertise it as "choose your own way" and then only one of the ways is actually enjoyable to play so it quickly becomes clear that this is really a stealth game with some weird shooting mechanics attached or a shooter with some rudimentary stealth system.

    All of this is still hyping me.
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    Some new info here again this is incredible
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Risico007 wrote: »



    Some new info here again this is incredible

    That's got me excited! These guys sound like they understand Bond and it makes me feel we're in safe hands
  • Posts: 6,915
    Can these guys be consultants for Amazon, please? ;)
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Univex wrote: »
    Can these guys be consultants for Amazon, please? ;)

    Lol. Yeah @Univex But I have a strong feeling that Amazon reads our posts and suggestions as well. After all, this is the best and most popular James Bond site on the planet.
  • edited 2:45pm Posts: 6,915
    Univex wrote: »
    Can these guys be consultants for Amazon, please? ;)

    Lol. Yeah @Univex But I have a strong feeling that Amazon reads our posts and suggestions as well. After all, this is the best and most popular James Bond site on the planet.

    Yeah, one really hopes so ;) That’s why I proposed a public poll on the age Bond should have on film. Hoping that they’ll gain some sense and keep him in his late 30s.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 3:03pm Posts: 2,768
    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Can these guys be consultants for Amazon, please? ;)

    Lol. Yeah @Univex But I have a strong feeling that Amazon reads our posts and suggestions as well. After all, this is the best and most popular James Bond site on the planet.

    Yeah, one really hopes so ;) That’s why I proposed a public poll on the age Bond should have on film. Hoping that they’ll gain some sense and keep him in his late 30s.

    Yeah. That doesn't hurt. It all depends on which direction they want to go. Although, based on how NTTD was, Bond 26 is looking like a younger Bond film.
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    Bond 35+. Imagine that, my age bracket!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Can these guys be consultants for Amazon, please? ;)

    Lol. Yeah @Univex But I have a strong feeling that Amazon reads our posts and suggestions as well. After all, this is the best and most popular James Bond site on the planet.

    Yeah, one really hopes so ;) That’s why I proposed a public poll on the age Bond should have on film. Hoping that they’ll gain some sense and keep him in his late 30s.

    Yeah. That doesn't hurt. It all depends on which direction they want to go. Although, based on how NTTD was, Bond 26 is looking like a younger Bond film.

    Must admit I'm warming to the idea of a younger Bond, as in this game. It's something we haven't seen before.
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    I can imagine if this game is about a Bond in his 20s and at the very beginning of his career, that’d play well with a film where Bond is in his early 30s and has been a 00 for a few years. I don’t think that’s an unlikely route to go, and if you’re creating a new era of this franchise - game and film - it makes sense to have a younger version of the character.
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    It makes sense, yes, but what would you prefer? That’s the point. We don’t need to be clinical. They do. We don’t. But hey, if they do it right, I won’t mind the yonger fella. It’s just that… well… when did having 30 something became old?
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    Who knows if longevity casting is even a thing anymore, could be short innings per era. Cast for impact.
  • edited 4:31pm Posts: 5,575
    Univex wrote: »
    It makes sense, yes, but what would you prefer? That’s the point. We don’t need to be clinical. They do. We don’t. But hey, if they do it right, I won’t mind the yonger fella. It’s just that… well… when did having 30 something became old?

    Oh no, 30s certainly isn’t old. In fact Bond’s meant to be in his prime at around 37 in the early novels.

    I think it’s more about story opportunity. With this it makes sense for Bond to be so young because the game's about Bond attaining 00 status. They can have a version of the character who grows under those circumstances. A year 3 Bond (I dunno, let’s say he’s meant to be 32 or whatever) might give us different story opportunities that could work for a film. Or they might decide prime Bond is the way to go (although I’m sure an actor in his early 30s could play that version of the character).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 4:49pm Posts: 18,496
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can imagine if this game is about a Bond in his 20s and at the very beginning of his career, that’d play well with a film where Bond is in his early 30s and has been a 00 for a few years. I don’t think that’s an unlikely route to go, and if you’re creating a new era of this franchise - game and film - it makes sense to have a younger version of the character.

    Yes you're probably right; I don't think this game will influence what Amazon do in any way, but it seems unlikely they'll do the same thing.

    I guess one thing which may be applicable: apparently the new Superman movie opens with him being fully established in the world, everyone knows him, Clark works at the Daily Planet, he and Lois are dating (she even knows Clark is Superman) etc. I guess the thinking is that at this point everyone's pretty familiar with the Superman origin story and the Superman status quo.
    It doesn't necessarily mean Bond will follow, but perhaps it shows an awareness that folks don't always need origin stories.
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can imagine if this game is about a Bond in his 20s and at the very beginning of his career, that’d play well with a film where Bond is in his early 30s and has been a 00 for a few years. I don’t think that’s an unlikely route to go, and if you’re creating a new era of this franchise - game and film - it makes sense to have a younger version of the character.

    Yes you're probably right; I don't think this game will influence what Amazon do in any way, but it seems unlikely they'll do the same thing.

    I guess one thing which may be applicable: apparently the new Superman movie opens with him being fully established in the world, everyone knows him, Clark works at the Daily Planet, he and Lois are dating (she even knows Clark is Superman) etc. I guess the thinking is that at this point everyone's pretty familiar with the Superman origin story and the Superman status quo.
    It doesn't necessarily mean Bond will follow, but perhaps it shows an awareness that folks don't always need origin stories.

    I heard it takes place in Superman's second or third year of crimefighting. That's what The Batman did too more or less. Bond doesn't quite have an origin story in the same way, and it's more common to just show him as an established agent, but I can imagine them going a similar route.
  • edited 5:03pm Posts: 6,915
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can imagine if this game is about a Bond in his 20s and at the very beginning of his career, that’d play well with a film where Bond is in his early 30s and has been a 00 for a few years. I don’t think that’s an unlikely route to go, and if you’re creating a new era of this franchise - game and film - it makes sense to have a younger version of the character.

    Yes you're probably right; I don't think this game will influence what Amazon do in any way, but it seems unlikely they'll do the same thing.

    I guess one thing which may be applicable: apparently the new Superman movie opens with him being fully established in the world, everyone knows him, Clark works at the Daily Planet, he and Lois are dating (she even knows Clark is Superman) etc. I guess the thinking is that at this point everyone's pretty familiar with the Superman origin story and the Superman status quo.
    It doesn't necessarily mean Bond will follow, but perhaps it shows an awareness that folks don't always need origin stories.

    I agree with you both. And that’s true, @mtm, it seems origin stories may be falling out of fashion. As are superhero movies, IMO, which have been relying on that dynamics for too long now. Bond has always been original in its way of rebooting. Let’s see what they conjure up :)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can imagine if this game is about a Bond in his 20s and at the very beginning of his career, that’d play well with a film where Bond is in his early 30s and has been a 00 for a few years. I don’t think that’s an unlikely route to go, and if you’re creating a new era of this franchise - game and film - it makes sense to have a younger version of the character.

    Yes you're probably right; I don't think this game will influence what Amazon do in any way, but it seems unlikely they'll do the same thing.

    I guess one thing which may be applicable: apparently the new Superman movie opens with him being fully established in the world, everyone knows him, Clark works at the Daily Planet, he and Lois are dating (she even knows Clark is Superman) etc. I guess the thinking is that at this point everyone's pretty familiar with the Superman origin story and the Superman status quo.
    It doesn't necessarily mean Bond will follow, but perhaps it shows an awareness that folks don't always need origin stories.

    I heard it takes place in Superman's second or third year of crimefighting. That's what The Batman did too more or less. Bond doesn't quite have an origin story in the same way, and it's more common to just show him as an established agent, but I can imagine them going a similar route.

    Yes it's interesting that it's now become a slight trend with Batman and now Superman doing the same. The latest Spider-Man did a similar thing, in fact.
    It may well be that's because they all have very well-known origin stories which audiences don't really need to see again, whereas as you say Bond doesn't- so that might mean Bond won't necessarily follow suit. But he may well, yes.
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    Brighton, that's fun!
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 5:15pm Posts: 2,768
    mtm wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Can these guys be consultants for Amazon, please? ;)

    Lol. Yeah @Univex But I have a strong feeling that Amazon reads our posts and suggestions as well. After all, this is the best and most popular James Bond site on the planet.

    Yeah, one really hopes so ;) That’s why I proposed a public poll on the age Bond should have on film. Hoping that they’ll gain some sense and keep him in his late 30s.

    Yeah. That doesn't hurt. It all depends on which direction they want to go. Although, based on how NTTD was, Bond 26 is looking like a younger Bond film.

    Must admit I'm warming to the idea of a younger Bond, as in this game. It's something we haven't seen before.

    Yes @mtm I do as well. Never done before is always refreshing.
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can imagine if this game is about a Bond in his 20s and at the very beginning of his career, that’d play well with a film where Bond is in his early 30s and has been a 00 for a few years. I don’t think that’s an unlikely route to go, and if you’re creating a new era of this franchise - game and film - it makes sense to have a younger version of the character.

    Yes you're probably right; I don't think this game will influence what Amazon do in any way, but it seems unlikely they'll do the same thing.

    I guess one thing which may be applicable: apparently the new Superman movie opens with him being fully established in the world, everyone knows him, Clark works at the Daily Planet, he and Lois are dating (she even knows Clark is Superman) etc. I guess the thinking is that at this point everyone's pretty familiar with the Superman origin story and the Superman status quo.
    It doesn't necessarily mean Bond will follow, but perhaps it shows an awareness that folks don't always need origin stories.

    I heard it takes place in Superman's second or third year of crimefighting. That's what The Batman did too more or less. Bond doesn't quite have an origin story in the same way, and it's more common to just show him as an established agent, but I can imagine them going a similar route.

    Yes it's interesting that it's now become a slight trend with Batman and now Superman doing the same. The latest Spider-Man did a similar thing, in fact.
    It may well be that's because they all have very well-known origin stories which audiences don't really need to see again, whereas as you say Bond doesn't- so that might mean Bond won't necessarily follow suit. But he may well, yes.

    Yeah, there's no obvious way of doing it with Bond. My suspicion is they might go for an established Bond, but one who goes on a mission which in some way challenges him personally and puts him on a certain track (could be anything). Which is not unlike all those Superhero films you mentioned.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can imagine if this game is about a Bond in his 20s and at the very beginning of his career, that’d play well with a film where Bond is in his early 30s and has been a 00 for a few years. I don’t think that’s an unlikely route to go, and if you’re creating a new era of this franchise - game and film - it makes sense to have a younger version of the character.

    Yes you're probably right; I don't think this game will influence what Amazon do in any way, but it seems unlikely they'll do the same thing.

    I guess one thing which may be applicable: apparently the new Superman movie opens with him being fully established in the world, everyone knows him, Clark works at the Daily Planet, he and Lois are dating (she even knows Clark is Superman) etc. I guess the thinking is that at this point everyone's pretty familiar with the Superman origin story and the Superman status quo.
    It doesn't necessarily mean Bond will follow, but perhaps it shows an awareness that folks don't always need origin stories.

    I heard it takes place in Superman's second or third year of crimefighting. That's what The Batman did too more or less. Bond doesn't quite have an origin story in the same way, and it's more common to just show him as an established agent, but I can imagine them going a similar route.

    Yes it's interesting that it's now become a slight trend with Batman and now Superman doing the same. The latest Spider-Man did a similar thing, in fact.
    It may well be that's because they all have very well-known origin stories which audiences don't really need to see again, whereas as you say Bond doesn't- so that might mean Bond won't necessarily follow suit. But he may well, yes.

    Yeah, there's no obvious way of doing it with Bond. My suspicion is they might go for an established Bond, but one who goes on a mission which in some way challenges him personally and puts him on a certain track (could be anything). Which is not unlike all those Superhero films you mentioned.

    I agree. I believe I said earlier it would probably be similar to The Batman, year two or somewhere early in his career and he makes mistakes and learns from them. Would probably make sense too so as not to have too many competing origins for Bond (i.e. Craig era, First Light).
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