Denis Villeneuve Announced as Bond 26 Director

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  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Could be that he wants to get something out of his system he has never done before. It's incredibly unlikely that he's going to do a 90-minute joke-fest, but it's not like guys on this level just always want to do the same film over and over again.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Can someone explain the idea of "fun Bond" to me. I don't mean to be rude it just seems a bit vague

    Is fun Bond like GoldenEye or like all the way camp of DAF or TSWLM / MR?
  • edited 9:15am Posts: 548
    Seve wrote: »
    God help us, it will be slow, portentious and pretentious

    Not that I didn't enjoy "Prisoners" and "Sicario" but the pacing required for a Bond film is very different

    I didn't mind "Bladerunner 2049" but it was slow
    I didn't like "Arrival" because it was all of the above
    And, as a fan of "Dune" the book, I found that movie failed to deliver

    On the other hand, I'm also confident it won't be a disgrace to the franchise, as the guy does have talent

    Surprised to read the news of the director. 😉 Things are moving forward! James Bond will return.

    I agree 100 percent with Seve. I rate Blade Runner 2 (2049) as one of the worst sequels ever made. Dull, tedious. Ironically, I thought the first teaser trailer was wonderful. A masterclass in how to present a teaser trailer:



    I didn't think the film caught any of that vibe.

    I thought Amazon would have gone with Christopher Nolan. Seemed the obvious choice but maybe Nolan would want final cut privilege (complete control over the final edit of the film) and Amazon MGM Studios don't allow that?

    I can't think of an obvious actor to play 007 but I guess Denis Villeneuve will have a few chaps in mind and maybe he can influence Amazon/Pascal/Haymen.

    My guess is Amazon will want to continue making Bond films in the Eon Barbara Broccoli/Craig era style. Based on his resume Villeneuve doesn't seem the type of film maker that would make a Connery or Moore type Bond film. I could be completely wrong of course, but I can't see Bond 26/1 being a more light hearted romp!

    However, maybe 007 First Light is a clue how Amazon regard Bond so you never know. I've no idea if First Light will be good but a film adaptation of the game (albeit with a different plot), Bond as a young 00, Villeneuve directing, could be one way to reinvent the franchise.








  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    Whenever someone asks who made the best version of Dune, I say David Lean. B-)

    Lean?

    I belive it's a "Lawrence of Arabia" joke
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Can someone explain the idea of "fun Bond" to me. I don't mean to be rude it just seems a bit vague

    Is fun Bond like GoldenEye or like all the way camp of DAF or TSWLM / MR?

    Interesting question, I guess it's a matter of individual taste, personally I think

    Connery's movies set the bar / created the template for the right balance of seriousness and fun, with the possible exception of FRWL, which is perhaps a bit more serious, and DAF which is too silly

    All Moore Bond movies are intended to be fun, but some take it too far

    Dalton's TLD is meant to be fun, while LTK is intended to be more serious, but probably wasn't as serious as he would have liked.

    All Brosnan Bond movies are intended to be fun, with the possible exception of TWINE

    All Craig movies are intended to be serious and melodramatic, with "fun" coming in a distant third
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    bondywondy wrote: »
    Seve wrote: »
    God help us, it will be slow, portentious and pretentious

    Not that I didn't enjoy "Prisoners" and "Sicario" but the pacing required for a Bond film is very different

    I didn't mind "Bladerunner 2049" but it was slow
    I didn't like "Arrival" because it was all of the above
    And, as a fan of "Dune" the book, I found that movie failed to deliver

    On the other hand, I'm also confident it won't be a disgrace to the franchise, as the guy does have talent

    Surprised to read the news of the director. 😉 Things are moving forward! James Bond will return.


    My guess is Amazon will want to continue making Bond films in the Eon Barbara Broccoli/Craig era style. Based on his resume Villeneuve doesn't seem the type of film maker that would make a Connery or Moore type Bond film. I could be completely wrong of course, but I can't see Bond 26/1 being a more light hearted romp!

    What most fans wanted was a course correct back to a middle-ground approach, with a balance between a strong contemporary story, dynamic action and a slightly more irreverent touch. Hiring Villeneuve signals a desire to carry on in the Craig mold.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Could be that he wants to get something out of his system he has never done before. It's incredibly unlikely that he's going to do a 90-minute joke-fest, but it's not like guys on this level just always want to do the same film over and over again.

    Yeah I think that's very possible. He's said he was a fan of the early movies so there must be a reason for that (personally I liked that Mendes seemed a fan of the Roger movies!)
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Seve wrote: »
    Whenever someone asks who made the best version of Dune, I say David Lean. B-)

    Lean?

    It's a "Lawrence of Arabia" joke

    Oh, no. I meant David Lynch directed the old Dune...not David Lean.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Could be that he wants to get something out of his system he has never done before. It's incredibly unlikely that he's going to do a 90-minute joke-fest, but it's not like guys on this level just always want to do the same film over and over again.

    Yeah I think that's very possible. He's said he was a fan of the early movies so there must be a reason for that (personally I liked that Mendes seemed a fan of the Roger movies!)

    I can imagine him making something like From Russia With Love.
  • edited 9:31am Posts: 6,874
    These last few pages are a perfect example of what makes me go away from these forums from time to time. Bond fans are a bunch of entitled, unhappy people.

    So, we've got fabulous new producers, one of the best directors ever, the promise of they continuing our beloved films, and we what? Complain? What a sad bunch.

    Denis Villeneuve is an incredible filmmaker. Knowledgeable and respectful, who works with only the best people in the business.

    So, we get the producer of Harry Potter, the director of Arrival, Sicario, Dune, 2049, ... And we get to complain? Cmon people, grow up.

    If it were Nolan, we would complain about the lack of sexiness, if it were Cuaron, we'd complain about his lack of consistence, if it is Villeneuve, we'll complain about the pace, ... Cmon...

    These are all brilliant filmmakers. This shows Amazon is willing to make all the right choices.

    BE HAPPY, damn it.

    I, for one, am. Very, very happy. The director I've been championing for years has been chosen. Quality will be very much a given. So, so happy. What a lovely day to be a Bond fan.

    In this world we're in, there are fewer chances of happiness. So, this is great news. Be happy, Bond fans.

    Now...for Bond himself.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    Univex wrote: »

    BE HAPPY, damn it.

    In this world we're in, there are fewer chances of happiness. So, this is great news. Be happy, Bond fans.

    Now...for Bond himself.

    Well said

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    And speaking about the pace, so, as fans, we've complained about they not taking the time to show Bond eat, check in hotels, check for bugs, appreciate fine living, and now we complain about a director who takes his time with pacing?

    For years we hated the ramping in DUD, the editing in QOS, too much action in TND,... And now we have a director who appreciates slow moments on screen, as any great cineast would.

    Besides, he talked about respecting tradition. Of this being a huge responsibility.

    The man is already saying all the right things.

    So, again, be happy.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Univex wrote: »
    And speaking about the pace, so, as fans, we've complained about they not taking the time to show Bond eat, check in hotels, check for bugs, appreciate fine living, and now we complain about a director who takes his time with pacing?

    For years we hated the ramping in DUD, the editing in QOS, too much action in TND,... And now we have a director who appreciates slow moments on screen, as any great cineast would.

    Besides, he talked about respecting tradition. Of this being a huge responsibility.

    The man is already saying all the right things.

    So, again, be happy.

    I don't think it's slow pace that is quite the issue, but morose, slow scenes. Basically more of Bond staring forlornly at burnt photographs like we got in SP. Dune has a lot of character sitting or laying down just sort of staring off.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    @Univex I agree. The only thing Villeneuve has to do now, is let Zimmer know he's scoring the film, so he prepares better for the music :)
  • edited 9:59am Posts: 6,874
    @Univex I agree. The only thing Villeneuve has to do now, is let Zimmer know he's scoring the film, so he prepares better for the music :)

    I agree. So we don't get another lackluster over-the-knee score like the one he did, yes, I agree, he needs time to do something special. Although, I don't know if I wouldn't prefer another sound, something different. It's like with the cast, I'd rather have no returning member. Clean slate, for everything, that'd be my general choice. But hey, I wouldn't be adverse to Zimmer returning. And I hope they'll choose someone punchier for the theme song, something strong and catchy, and upbeat in a sense.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Univex wrote: »
    @Univex I agree. The only thing Villeneuve has to do now, is let Zimmer know he's scoring the film, so he prepares better for the music :)

    I agree. So we don't get another lackluster over-the-knee score like the one he did, yes, I agree, he needs time to do something special. Although, I don't know if I wouldn't prefer another sound, something different. It's like with the cast, I'd rather have no returning member. Clean slate, for everything, that'd be my general choice. But hey, I wouldn't be adverse to Zimmer returning. And I hope they'll choose someone punchier for the theme song, something strong and catchy, and upbeat in a sense.

    Yeah. I wanted Ludwig Göransson. But it's Villeneuve, so it means it's Zimmer as well. Plus, Amazon being careful with James Bond, would want Zimmer too...since he already familiar with Bond. Yeah, I would also like an upbeat Bond title theme.
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    In the press release it doesn't sound like Villeneuve is gonna be a 1 and done movie.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    @Seve I think you summed that up really well mate.

    One thing I am glad about is that we have a director who understands and loves the cinema experience.

    No disrespect to Paul King or Jonathan Nolan, but had someone like that been announced I'd have been nervous that Amazon Bond doesn't have the same pull as EON's Bond.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @Seve I think you summed that up really well mate.

    One thing I am glad about is that we have a director who understands and loves the cinema experience.

    No disrespect to Paul King or Jonathan Nolan, but had someone like that been announced I'd have been nervous that Amazon Bond doesn't have the same pull as EON's Bond.

    Well said. This is cinema territory, not tv, not streaming. We're in safe hands, indeed.
  • edited 11:01am Posts: 5,501
    Jordo007 wrote: »

    One thing I am glad about is that we have a director who understands and loves the cinema experience.

    Yes, that's a positive about Villeneuve which even I'd acknowledge.

    The one thing you can say about NTTD is that it felt like a big, cinematic experience. In fact I think you could say that about Craig's last three in general - the filmmaking felt like it'd been stepped up, and there was a greater weight to the tone. I certainly got that sense in a way I hadn't quite with even CR and QOS.

    And honestly, each new Bond film should have that feel, regardless of the specifics of story. It's a cinematic experience, the ultimate blockbuster - stylish, but smart, humorous, tense, and fun. They should have a sense of spectacle, not merely just in a few cool practical stunts, but how the whole thing is packaged, how the story is told etc.

    I understand for a minority of fans they want Bond 26 to be some sort of course correction from the Craig era (personally I've always said it won't be - a 'reinvention' Bond film, sure - but not a course correction as Craig's last films were too successful, varied in tone, and are what many fans associate with Bond today). It's worth saying we'll get a new take on Bond whatever way and this will be its own thing, but in this very general regard of making Bond cinematic, I don't think that's going to change, and that's one thing I think can be said about Villeneuve being given the director's chair.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    In the manner @Univex suggests, I'll say something positive. My hope is that after spending 8 or so years working on something as dense and unwieldy as the Dune saga that Denis Villeneuve will be happy to kick back and let his hair down, and not overcomplicate things with his Bond. I also hope that because he is so tired, we get to see him working more from instinct and playfulness than from his usual, highly manner, cerebral perspective. I don't need it to be Guy Hamilton 70's knockout nonsense complete with a comedy sheriff, I just hope it's the lax-est and most fun movie that Villeneuve has done in his career thus far. I don't think that too high of an expectation to have, and if he really understands Bond on the level he claims, it shouldn't be hard.
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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Amazing!

    Not even a day into the announcement that Denis Villeneuve will direct Bond 26, and a select few already have their crystal balls out.

    No other news, no casting or story, but based solely on Viileneuve’s previous work, how his Bond film turns out has already been judged.
    It has been decided based purely on a guess. We’re all entitled to an opinion, but as with the casting of Daniel Craig, at least give the guy a chance before you write him off.

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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Can someone explain the idea of "fun Bond" to me. I don't mean to be rude it just seems a bit vague

    Is fun Bond like GoldenEye or like all the way camp of DAF or TSWLM / MR?

    "Fun Bond" is whatever one considers light in comparison to whatever they consider too serious. But sometimes it means high spectacle, big on action. Sometimes it means it has a lot of beautiful Bond beds. It's meant to be vague, as it is use to express dissatisfaction towards whatever Bond film you're comparing it to.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 11:09am Posts: 2,721
    I think a Bond film that just wants to be breezy, would now be seen as too trite or shallow... because Craig has added too much depth to the Bond character, although Dalton did it first. Also, TND is my favorite Bond film because of the fond memories of watching a very slick James Bond in Pierce Brosnan, but in my heart...I know it's not the best Bond film.
  • edited 11:11am Posts: 6,874
    Benny wrote: »
    Amazing!

    Not even a day into the announcement that Denis Villeneuve will direct Bond 26, and a select few already have their crystal balls out.

    No other news, no casting or story, but based solely on Viileneuve’s previous work, how his Bond film turns out has already been judged.
    It has been decided based purely on a guess. We’re all entitled to an opinion, but as with the casting of Daniel Craig, at least give the guy a chance before you write him off.

    A brilliant post, as always, my friend. And yeah, some of us have been rooting for DV for years. I know I have. Stellar producers, stellar director, now the only thing we need is...
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Can someone explain the idea of "fun Bond" to me. I don't mean to be rude it just seems a bit vague

    Is fun Bond like GoldenEye or like all the way camp of DAF or TSWLM / MR?

    "Fun Bond" is whatever one considers light in comparison to whatever they consider too serious. But sometimes it means high spectacle, big on action. Sometimes it means it has a lot of beautiful Bond beds. It's meant to be vague, as it is use to express dissatisfaction towards whatever Bond film you're comparing it to.

    Ahah, true. Fun is only fun for some. And even then, everyone has their own sense of fun.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Univex wrote: »
    And speaking about the pace, so, as fans, we've complained about they not taking the time to show Bond eat, check in hotels, check for bugs, appreciate fine living, and now we complain about a director who takes his time with pacing?

    For years we hated the ramping in DUD, the editing in QOS, too much action in TND,... And now we have a director who appreciates slow moments on screen, as any great cineast would.

    Besides, he talked about respecting tradition. Of this being a huge responsibility.

    The man is already saying all the right things.

    So, again, be happy.

    I don't think it's slow pace that is quite the issue, but morose, slow scenes. Basically more of Bond staring forlornly at burnt photographs like we got in SP. Dune has a lot of character sitting or laying down just sort of staring off.

    Try watching the Dune movies with your brain switched on next time.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    I have 3 movies directed by him, Sicario so far is only one i have seen. Back then i give 7/10 but consider 6.5/10. I must see it again and mabey i like it more then. Mabey i expect to much of Sam Mendes (Jarhead) in him. The other two movies are Prisoners and Enemy. Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 (with Dave Bautista and Ana de Armas) are also on my wishlist to see.

    Sarah Gadon who i seen in Enemy (and have a couple of other movies with like Dreamhouse with Daniel Craig and moost present Ferrari) i like to see as Bondgirl, so hope she will be in it. Back then i sugest her playing a blind Bondgirl.

    With him big possible Roger Deakins (Skyfall, Prisoners, Blade Runner 2049) wil return that something i hope won't happen. I prefer a film Cinematographer. Or there will go for Bradford Young a dop who worked on Arrival and Pawn Sacrifice. Some of what he working on feels Skyfall, Spectre and QOS.




    Tanya Lapointe worked with him on those Dune movies, but she made documentry where man and woman look there own perspective of man and woman. And a creatieve documentry about man who making creatieve things with paper.

    Denis Villeneuve was already be in talks with the old producers and it be difficult then already to see what directer he wil be. Overall idea was even slower directer then Sam Mendes, if lucky more refreshing as Marc Forster but atleast a better choose then Kathryn Bigelow. But we have now David Heyman (Warner Producer), Amy Pascal (Sony producer) and Denis as directer feels as choose of Warner (Dune, Harry Potter) and Sony (Incendies, Arrival, CR, QOS, SF, SP). I think Bond 26 wil be made/released before Dune 3.

    Warner is very openminded studio but also on the budget. After the end of NTTD everything is possible. Minimal i hope there go for something new (what also can mean that there can take look to John Gadner novels with 2-3 include elements that are closer/simalar Daniel Craig hidden themes) then remake the novels.

    Now it is waiting till Jake Gyllenhaal or Timothée Chalamet wil be anouched as Bond :))
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    It's crazy how many here haven't seen his films... where have you been? Do you not engage with modern cinema beyond Bond? He's even been associated with Bond for years! Come on people, do some homework.
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    Benny wrote: »
    Amazing!

    Not even a day into the announcement that Denis Villeneuve will direct Bond 26, and a select few already have their crystal balls out.

    No other news, no casting or story, but based solely on Viileneuve’s previous work, how his Bond film turns out has already been judged.
    It has been decided based purely on a guess. We’re all entitled to an opinion, but as with the casting of Daniel Craig, at least give the guy a chance before you write him off.

    I think there are many people who expect the return of the Brosnan era and they already know that is not going to happen.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    It's crazy how many here haven't seen his films... where have you been? Do you not engage with modern cinema beyond Bond? He's even been associated with Bond for years! Come on people, do some homework.

    Right? ;)
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