007 First Light - IO Interactive - The New James Bond Video Game

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  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,370
    007HallY wrote: »
    From what I can see this game definitely has Craig era ideas - Bond seems much more reckless and willing to disobey authority figures, we get very explicit references to his past (they even give him a sort of Batman esque origin with Bond actually seeing his parents die), and there’s that sense of grittiness there. It’s obviously doing its own thing, and much like the Craig films it seems they’ve gone into it trying to consciously update Bond and do something different, but it definitely has traces of the recent films in it.

    Then do you think it could work as the blueprint for Bond 26, at least tonally? If it apparently nails incorporating so many different styles?

    I don’t know about a blueprint, but I think the nature of creating a film or video game is those making it draw off of what’s come before. Even with new producers (and keep in mind even then Amy Pascal has worked on some of the Craig films) I think something from the previous era will make its way in there.

    I mean, for a lot of people the idea of Bond being more reckless and anti authoritarian is just natural - and you can see that side of Bond develop from the Dalton films to the Craig ones. Same for Bond having quite a sad childhood - it cropped up as early as GE, and we’ve gone from SF/SP to this. So these developments in character are pretty organic anyway, and each new work should put a different spin on things (for better or worse).

    I’m sure Bond 26 will be different to this, but that’s fine.
  • Posts: 2,281
    Bond is a bullet without a target. Let's give him one.

    I do like that line :D
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited June 5 Posts: 15,138
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    Go silent or go loud. Whether fighting with fists or firepower, using gadgets to infiltrate, or bluffing your way past guards, the approach is entirely up to you.
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  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Mallory wrote: »
    Bond is a bullet without a target. Let's give him one.

    I do like that line :D

    Yeah. Really like that line. Fleming would have given it his approval.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Something I liked in the trailer is that M is fighting in Bond's corner, that brought a tear in to my eye. Reminded me of the good old days.

    Also I like the idea of Bond being a constant, even though the world may have changed and MI6 looks very different now, he has the the same description as the man who existed in Flemings novels.
  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,370
    Something I liked in the trailer is that M is fighting in Bond's corner, that brought a tear in to my eye. Reminded me of the good old days.

    Like in SF?

    It does actually give me a similar impression in all seriousness. That sense of faith in her agent but also that idea that she's pulling the strings. Reminds me a bit of Fleming's M on occasion (ie. 'just give him a good mission to snap him out of his PTSD. Nothing could go wrong there'.)
    Also I like the idea of Bond being a constant, even though the world may have changed and MI6 looks very different now, he has the the same description as the man who existed in Flemings novels.

    It's definitely quite a classic Bond appearance. Although he's clearly very young. Personally I'd like a bit more of that sense of coldness/cruelty (I think he's a bit too baby faced at some points) but I can see what they were going for, and actually I've seen a few images where the design looks a bit more harder edged/Bondian. I can imagine it'll be ironed out and he'll slowly become more Bondian in his attire/outward appearance.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Mallory wrote: »
    Bond is a bullet without a target. Let's give him one.

    A bit lewd.
  • Posts: 9,959
    Mallory wrote: »
    Bond is a bullet without a target. Let's give him one.

    I do like that line :D

    Me too

    Someone else mentioned that we might live in a world where Patrick Gibson is someone’s favorite 007 interesting to say the least
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Something I liked in the trailer is that M is fighting in Bond's corner, that brought a tear in to my eye. Reminded me of the good old days.

    Like in SF?

    It does actually give me a similar impression in all seriousness. That sense of faith in her agent but also that idea that she's pulling the strings. Reminds me a bit of Fleming's M on occasion (ie. 'just give him a good mission to snap him out of his PTSD. Nothing could go wrong there'.)
    Also I like the idea of Bond being a constant, even though the world may have changed and MI6 looks very different now, he has the the same description as the man who existed in Flemings novels.

    It's definitely quite a classic Bond appearance. Although he's clearly very young. Personally I'd like a bit more of that sense of coldness/cruelty (I think he's a bit too baby faced at some points) but I can see what they were going for, and actually I've seen a few images where the design looks a bit more harder edged/Bondian. I can imagine it'll be ironed out and he'll slowly become more Bondian in his attire/outward appearance.

    That wasn't so much loyalty as her wanting to sweep the memory of her mistake under the rug - "See, he's fine!"
  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,370
    007HallY wrote: »
    Something I liked in the trailer is that M is fighting in Bond's corner, that brought a tear in to my eye. Reminded me of the good old days.

    Like in SF?

    It does actually give me a similar impression in all seriousness. That sense of faith in her agent but also that idea that she's pulling the strings. Reminds me a bit of Fleming's M on occasion (ie. 'just give him a good mission to snap him out of his PTSD. Nothing could go wrong there'.)
    Also I like the idea of Bond being a constant, even though the world may have changed and MI6 looks very different now, he has the the same description as the man who existed in Flemings novels.

    It's definitely quite a classic Bond appearance. Although he's clearly very young. Personally I'd like a bit more of that sense of coldness/cruelty (I think he's a bit too baby faced at some points) but I can see what they were going for, and actually I've seen a few images where the design looks a bit more harder edged/Bondian. I can imagine it'll be ironed out and he'll slowly become more Bondian in his attire/outward appearance.

    That wasn't so much loyalty as her wanting to sweep the memory of her mistake under the rug - "See, he's fine!"

    I wouldn't say so. M believes at that point that Bond can overcome his injuries and is the best man for the job. So she flubs his evaluation scores and sends him knowing he's not at his best. It's that sense of extraordinary faith in her agent.

    I can imagine it being a spin on that here. 'Oh, you have a reckless agent who has a habit of being at odds with his superiors? No one else in MI6 believes he's suitable for the 00 section? Well, let's give him a target and send him on a dangerous mission, I know he'll prove himself because I have faith in him'.
  • edited June 5 Posts: 6,850
    I'm actually impressed. If that were the new film, new direction and all, I'd be clapping like the fan I am. If that is any indicator of what "they" think Bond is, they're not wrong. Will I play the game? Probably not. I don't even own a Ps5. But here's me hoping again for the new film to impress me as well. Cheers

    And that Patrick Gibson fella, with dark hair, yeah, he would do fine as Bond. I like his grin and cockiness.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I’m glad to see the game hasn’t fallen into limbo. Now I will cross my fingers that the released game will be good AND I can clear my PS5 backlog to play it.

    I do like they gave him the cheek scar.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Looking forward to playing this on Windows and hope that there aren't too many differences between ports.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Looking forward to playing this on Windows and hope that there aren't too many differences between ports.

    I wonder how long it will take after release for a mod to switch Bond to Craig, Brosnan etc.

    15 minutes? 😂
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Mallory wrote: »
    I wonder how long it will take after release for a mod to switch Bond to Craig, Brosnan etc.

    15 minutes? 😂
    Not long, I imagine. Personally I'd be interesting in getting hold of the non-character asset models and textures to make them physically like I'm currently doing with GE64.
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    I wonder what First Light refers to - the villain’s evil plan perhaps.
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    I do like they gave him the cheek scar.

    Indeed. Good fan service, that one. Means they know their Bond.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Mallory wrote: »
    I wonder what First Light refers to - the villain’s evil plan perhaps.

    Maybe this is the mission where Bond first starts smoking?
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Mallory wrote: »
    I wonder what First Light refers to - the villain’s evil plan perhaps.

    Maybe this is the mission where Bond first starts smoking?

    I'd guess it could do with the mysterious Scandinavian mission from the trailer, where Bond is the only one who survived til morning or something.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    It's definitely quite a classic Bond appearance. Although he's clearly very young. Personally I'd like a bit more of that sense of coldness/cruelty (I think he's a bit too baby faced at some points) but I can see what they were going for, and actually I've seen a few images where the design looks a bit more harder edged/Bondian. I can imagine it'll be ironed out and he'll slowly become more Bondian in his attire/outward appearance.

    The only thing which rankled me slightly is they picked lots of shots for the trailer where he's smiling all the time; I've nothing against a Bond who enjoys what he's doing, but very few action movies, let alone Bond, would make a trailer where the lead is grinning at everything.
  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,370
    Univex wrote: »
    I'm actually impressed. If that were the new film, new direction and all, I'd be clapping like the fan I am. If that is any indicator of what "they" think Bond is, they're not wrong. Will I play the game? Probably not. I don't even own a Ps5. But here's me hoping again for the new film to impress me as well. Cheers

    Agreed. It's interesting that this game's release and promos coincide with Bond 26 being developed. Again, not saying this is indicative of where the film franchise will go, and ultimately no one knows how this game will be received yet, but I can imagine it putting a bit of a spanner in the works in terms of what perhaps many at Amazon (and in general) believe audiences/fans want, and what is successful and creatively appropriate in practice.
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It's definitely quite a classic Bond appearance. Although he's clearly very young. Personally I'd like a bit more of that sense of coldness/cruelty (I think he's a bit too baby faced at some points) but I can see what they were going for, and actually I've seen a few images where the design looks a bit more harder edged/Bondian. I can imagine it'll be ironed out and he'll slowly become more Bondian in his attire/outward appearance.

    The only thing which rankled me slightly is they picked lots of shots for the trailer where he's smiling all the time; I've nothing against a Bond who enjoys what he's doing, but very few action movies, let alone Bond, would make a trailer where the lead is grinning at everything.

    I suppose it's meant to give the impression he's young, arrogant, and a bit cocky. I think story-wise that'll work. I suspect the model will change a bit as the game goes on.

    Looking at some of the stills there are some good ones, and I definitely see a harder edge coming through. It's growing on me for sure, and I think as has been said it's a case of getting used to a new Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 5 Posts: 18,186
    007HallY wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I'm actually impressed. If that were the new film, new direction and all, I'd be clapping like the fan I am. If that is any indicator of what "they" think Bond is, they're not wrong. Will I play the game? Probably not. I don't even own a Ps5. But here's me hoping again for the new film to impress me as well. Cheers

    Agreed. It's interesting that this game's release and promos coincide with Bond 26 being developed. Again, not saying this is indicative of where the film franchise will go, and ultimately no one knows how this game will be received yet, but I can imagine it putting a bit of a spanner in the works in terms of what perhaps many at Amazon (and in general) believe audiences/fans want, and what is successful in practice.

    It doesn't feel like an ideal situation, does it: having a new young actor cast as James Bond in a rebooted, big budget version, when they're trying to do exactly the same thing with the film series. Doesn't feel very unified.

    I also tend to think that Eon's hiatus after NTTD put the kibosh on this and other Bond projects (featuring 007 himself) for a little while. With A Mind To Kill had pretty much already been written and approved and OHiMSS was a special one-off, but other than that not much has happened with the character until the sale was completed.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Mallory wrote: »
    I wonder what First Light refers to - the villain’s evil plan perhaps.

    Apparently, there were some leaks beforehand and those said
    the "villain" would be the head of an AI company. It doesn't look like that in the trailer. It seems to be a rogue 00. But on the other hand, the marketing material indicates that the 00 section is being revived here, so maybe 009 has been out of MI6 for a long time and has gone into tech? Anyway. It's probably just that some marketing commitee sat together and wanted something with 'First' in the title and there will be some shoehorned reason for it.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It's definitely quite a classic Bond appearance. Although he's clearly very young. Personally I'd like a bit more of that sense of coldness/cruelty (I think he's a bit too baby faced at some points) but I can see what they were going for, and actually I've seen a few images where the design looks a bit more harder edged/Bondian. I can imagine it'll be ironed out and he'll slowly become more Bondian in his attire/outward appearance.

    The only thing which rankled me slightly is they picked lots of shots for the trailer where he's smiling all the time; I've nothing against a Bond who enjoys what he's doing, but very few action movies, let alone Bond, would make a trailer where the lead is grinning at everything.

    Yeah. But who knows? Maybe since Bond died in the last film, and this is first James Bond appearance since NTTD, it could be that they want to transmit that happy feel to him and to us, as well. I don't know, though. But just saying.
  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,370
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I'm actually impressed. If that were the new film, new direction and all, I'd be clapping like the fan I am. If that is any indicator of what "they" think Bond is, they're not wrong. Will I play the game? Probably not. I don't even own a Ps5. But here's me hoping again for the new film to impress me as well. Cheers

    Agreed. It's interesting that this game's release and promos coincide with Bond 26 being developed. Again, not saying this is indicative of where the film franchise will go, and ultimately no one knows how this game will be received yet, but I can imagine it putting a bit of a spanner in the works in terms of what perhaps many at Amazon (and in general) believe audiences/fans want, and what is successful in practice.

    It doesn't feel like an ideal situation, does it: having a new young actor cast as James Bond in a rebooted, big budget version, when they're trying to do exactly the same thing with the film series. Doesn't feel very unified.

    I also tend to think that Eon's hiatus after NTTD put the kibosh on this and other Bond projects (featuring 007 himself) for a little while. With A Mind To Kill had pretty much already been written and approved and OHiMSS was a special one-off, but other than that not much has happened with the character until the sale was completed.

    Well I suppose to some extent this was always going to be the case. EON approved of this game and I suspect at one point they were more confident of going into Bond 26. No idea about the other projects.

    I'm fine with this personally. I think video games and the films are separate things even if they share many of the same elements. Ultimately as well we've had a Bond video game avatar (and voice artist) who isn't the current film actor in the past. This run of games can be its own thing in this context. I'd be very sceptical if Amazon suddenly started making different versions of Bond with different actors (ie. a 60s Bond starring Henry Cavill alongside a modern one with ATJ) as that could well diminish the importance of the James Bond actor. But I reckon this can co-exist peacefully enough.

    Another big factor is that this could very well help a new film and Bond era, and I think EON understood that when they approved this. Let's be honest, IFP's books, even if they deigned to include Bond nowadays, have limited appeal and won't bring on many new fans. I can see people getting hyped for a new Bond film through this.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah it's true, this is a good way of making Bond a bit more relevant again. Has to be a really good game though.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    So that was a Valhalla under the reveal cover sheet at Q-Branch? Maybe we'll get the Valhalla action we didn't see in NTTD.
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    Mendes4Lyfe just has a major grievance towards the Craig era in general. The guy actually tried claiming NTTD was critically panned. As if it was never actually highly rated among critics and audiences.

    It’s annoying watching him constantly put down the Craig era - but I also find it annoying reading about that hate boner you and others have for Brosnan - especially after reading your comments about how if he was a better actor he wouldn’t have been let go or the other ridiculous nonsense you spewed - none of which were true. Your hate for Brosnan’s tenure is every bit as annoying to read as Mendes’ hate for Craig’s era - both of you need to get over your grievances and move on.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I thought it was a Valhalla, yeah. Or Valkyrie, I can never remember which is which!

    I'm finding the idea of Calvin Dyson, who's very much a Bond games fan, sitting at his desk at work itching to get home to get in front of his camera because the trailer dropped so late last night quite amusing :D
  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,370
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah it's true, this is a good way of making Bond a bit more relevant again. Has to be a really good game though.

    Oh yeah, for sure, and I'm not sure how able I am to judge that at any rate. But whatever way it means the franchise is still going and can have at least one new fresh start. Bond can be reinvented. And that's good, especially if people really enjoy this game.
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