007 First Light - IO Interactive - The New James Bond Video Game

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited June 5 Posts: 8,687
    I never said he was a bad actor, only that he simply wasn’t good enough. If he was, Eon wouldn’t have thought he was disposable and told him to beat it.

    And the world went on just fine without him staying as Bond. Booo hooo hahahaha!!!
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited June 5 Posts: 797
    I must say, I'm not too crazy about the character design, or the guy voicing him. He looks like a pretty generic ex-jock action hero, and he comes off like a slightly haughty public schoolboy. Though I guess for a younger version of the character, it's somewhat appropriate. Still, I think Bond should come off a little more enigmatic, even as a young man.

    Still, I think they've homed in on all the right elements of Bond's origins; his adventurous and slightly rebellious spirit, and being given structure and purpose by MI6. 'Bullet without a target' is a great phrase.

    I'm not a gamer so it's not of huge interest to me, but I'll still be interested to see how it all turns out.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I never said he was a bad actor, only that he simply wasn’t good enough. If he was, Eon wouldn’t have thought he was disposable and told him to beat it.

    And the world went on just fine without him staying as Bond. Booo hooo hahahaha!!!

    The world will go on just fine without Craig as Bond.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited June 5 Posts: 14,180
    I thought that might be Lennie James, no idea of M, Q and Moneypenny though. Maybe a look at the cast on Friday?


    And also a confirmation of this still being the first of a trilogy would be welcome.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    mtm wrote: »
    Anyone recognise the lady playing M? She's not ringing any bells for me. Lennie James is the only one I recognised straight away.

    Definitely Lennie James, but the lady escapes me...
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    I think First Light has the potential to be the best of all the Bond games - I can’t think of a better developer suited to Bond than IO and with any luck we’ll get more games from them if this one is a huge hit. I think the days of GE64 being the Gold Standard for Bond games are about to end…

    Here is hoping.

    A great Bond game is long overdue.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I never said he was a bad actor, only that he simply wasn’t good enough. If he was, Eon wouldn’t have thought he was disposable and told him to beat it.

    And the world went on just fine without him staying as Bond. Booo hooo hahahaha!!!

    The world will go on just fine without Craig as Bond.

    Exactly. Craig ended on his own terms in a way Brosnan was denied.
  • edited June 5 Posts: 424
    I'm not sure how would anyone view this with excitement. Everything about the trailer is generic, they just slapped 007 on it and put some gadgets in. That's not Bond and that's not Bondish.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
    edited June 5 Posts: 1,405
    Haven't been able to go through all of the comments since the trailer dropped, but I don't think I've seen a lot of talk about the gameplay. I have to say at first glance (and to be clear, a lot of this isn't gameplay footage, but the stuff they do show seems chosen to indicate a few things) this is exactly what I'd hoped for from an IOI Bond game.

    What I am taking from this trailer is of course that it's a strongly narrative game. Linear story. Moving from mission to mission. But I also gleam a whole lot of Hitman DNA. Those parts in the hotel (?) look like straight up Hitman missions. So the question still remains how free players will be in approaching certain situations or if they will try to press you into certain mechanics and situations.
    I.e. will we get to a certain point and then it's the classic Hitman thing of "kill this target. Don't get discovered. Get out any way. There are dozens of paths available to you. Go." or will it be more "Now go over there and kill that waiter to get his uniform. Now walk into that room. Trigger a cutscene and an ensuing fight. Now take this other uniform. Now walk out, sneak along here and then use this car to escape."
    I am hoping for a happy medium that leans towards more freedom, but I guess they'll have to hit way more pre-planned events and cutscenes in order to make the story work than the Hitman games do.

    Anyhow. Very optimistic. Definitely will finally have to update from the old PS4...

    Edit: Oh, and on second look, it seems like those of you hoping you wouldn't mow down a medium-sized village worth of henchmen are going to be disappointed.
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    It looks like Kingsman...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I get the sense of a character somewhere between Craig's Bond and Indiana Jones.
  • Posts: 2,422
    Stamper wrote: »
    I'm not sure how would anyone view this with excitement. Everything about the trailer is generic, they just slapped 007 on it and put some gadgets in. That's not Bond and that's not Bondish.

    Okay, and if I were to thoroughly outline why *I'm* excited and why it *is* Bond and "Bondish", would you even be open to hearing me out or would you just reply with another couple of generic "don't like it, bad" sentences? Cause if it's the latter I - and probably a lot of the others here - would rather you just left this thread to the people actually interested in the game.
  • Posts: 5,364
    Looks good! I think an inexperienced, mid 20s Bond wouldn’t work on film, but having to play and attain 00 status in a game gives it something different. Just shows how Bond can work in different mediums.

    Not a gamer so don’t know if I’ll ever get the chance to play it, but never say never.
  • Posts: 2,281
    007HallY wrote: »
    Looks good! I think an inexperienced, mid 20s Bond wouldn’t work on film, but having to play and attain 00 status in a game gives it something different. Just shows how Bond can work in different mediums.

    Not a gamer so don’t know if I’ll ever get the chance to play it, but never say never.

    I was thinking about this earlier. I dont think this kind of storyline would work in a film (Cubby I think didnt want to go down this route when they were working on TLD) but as a video game that explores it, yeah that would work.

    Anyway I am excited by what I have seen today. I think we have become so used to a Craig Bond that anyone else in the role (virtually as well) will seem very alien at first. It will be the same with the new cinematic Bond. I am sure it will settle as we get more accustom to it. Like the scar detail.

    The game likely has another year in development - they will want to steer well clear of GTA which is May and I dont see them going before then - so would suspect a Sept/Oct launch. Plenty of time to tidy the game up - the facial animation looked a little off - especially Lenny James (great casting btw).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.

    Literally nobody ever made that argument. You’re making that up.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
    edited June 5 Posts: 1,405
    Ok, I dove a bit deeper into their marketing materials and now I am fully on board.
    Spying, your way
    Go silent or go loud. Whether fighting with fists or firepower, using gadgets to infiltrate, or bluffing your way past guards, the approach is entirely up to you.
    Yes, and thank you! So it's really going to be Agent 00 4 7. Really cool.
    Welcome to MI6
    Test your skills and replay your favorite missions with additional modifiers, for endless epsionage fun!
    Again, yes! We'll have to see how this is implemented, but it seems like another good port from Hitman. There's one way to play the mission for the story, but if you want to go back and do it differently later on you can and there's further depth available. Great! It's a video game. Let me play with it. (I have to say, I do think somewhere in this thread is a post by me where I propose something like that. Having MI6 as a hub to play and replay missions.)
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.

    Literally nobody ever made that argument. You’re making that up.

    They did. In 2004.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.

    Literally nobody ever made that argument. You’re making that up.

    Yeah. Nobody ever said that.
  • Posts: 2,422
    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.

    Literally nobody ever made that argument. You’re making that up.

    Sure, nobody except for every single person who whined about Craig's films being "too dark, too grim, too serious, too dour..." "Oh, it's just what the STUPID PUBLIC want these days..."
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited June 5 Posts: 8,687
    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.

    Literally nobody ever made that argument. You’re making that up.

    They did. In 2004.

    And yet we got CASINO ROYALE where Bond is still very much fun, quippy and charismatic. QUANTUM OF SOLACE tried dipping its toes in Bourne but thankfully Eon course corrected after backlash.
  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,364
    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.

    So much for the idea that nothing from the Craig era in terms of tone and/or ideas will make its way into future Bond works 😉

    But in all seriousness I don’t ever remember anyone making the claim you’re saying.
  • Posts: 9,957
    Still so excited and on cloud nine the trailer looks amazing
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited June 5 Posts: 8,687
    Mendes4Lyfe just has a major grievance towards the Craig era in general. The guy actually tried claiming NTTD was critically panned. As if it was never actually highly rated among critics and audiences.
  • Posts: 2,059
    So much for the "fun, quipy charismatic Bond won't work in the modern day" discussion.

    Literally nobody ever made that argument. You’re making that up.

    They did. In 2004.

    The eternal battle between Brosnan and Craig.

    Longer than the battle of Moore and Connery.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Fun fact: only 11 Aston Martin DBSs came from the factory in the colour Bond is driving there, so he's got a very car :)
  • edited June 5 Posts: 5,364
    From what I can see this game definitely has Craig era ideas - Bond seems much more reckless and willing to disobey authority figures, we get very explicit references to his past (they even give him a sort of Batman esque origin with Bond actually seeing his parents die), and there’s that sense of grittiness there. It’s obviously doing its own thing, and much like the Craig films it seems they’ve gone into it trying to consciously update Bond and do something different, but it definitely has traces of the recent films in it.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited June 5 Posts: 8,983
    007HallY wrote: »
    From what I can see this game definitely has Craig era ideas - Bond seems much more reckless and willing to disobey authority figures, we get very explicit references to his past (they even give him a sort of Batman esque origin with Bond actually seeing his parents die), and there’s that sense of grittiness there. It’s obviously doing its own thing, and much like the Craig films it seems they’ve gone into it trying to consciously update Bond and do something different, but it definitely has traces of the recent films in it.

    Then do you think it could work as the blueprint for Bond 26, at least tonally? If it apparently nails incorporating so many different styles?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    007HallY wrote: »
    From what I can see this game definitely has Craig era ideas - Bond seems much more reckless and willing to disobey authority figures, we get very explicit references to his past (they even give him a sort of Batman esque origin with Bond actually seeing his parents die), and there’s that sense of grittiness there. It’s obviously doing its own thing, and much like the Craig films it seems they’ve gone into it trying to consciously update Bond and do something different, but it definitely has traces of the recent films in it.

    Indeed.

    I find it funny that some fans might have hoped that a new iteration of Bond, whether on game or film, would try to pretend the Craig films never existed. Love or hate his films, they made a major impact on the Bond franchise and will never be ignored.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Well younger folk around today associated Bond with Craig; something along those lines or bouncing off it is what they expect to see.
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