Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I guess the only thing about faking supernatural powers is that it often means you have local inhabitants of wherever-we-are credulously believing it and Bond being the wise level-headed Englishman who can see through all that mumbo-jumbo, and it can get slightly insulting. So in a way I'd kind of prefer for the magic to be left unexplained and for Bond to learn he's not seen quite everything; a bit more Indy in style perhaps, but even LALD had a bit of that.
    I can kind of imagine CraigBond encountering some sort of situation like that where it's quite clear how whatever-it-is is possible, and it'd be quite refreshing.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,662
    peter wrote: »
    It seems officially the project hasn’t moved into preproduction yet— there is, as far as the industry is concerned (and not from Insneider-types), that no writers have been attached, nor a director.

    If this holds (and IMDbpro has B26 as “announcement”, and not even “in development”), then these are very early days indeed.

    yeah maybe like 2028-2029

    If we are still waiting for Bond 26 in 2029 man that would be rough. I'm hoping no later than summer 2028.

    Lol. But few days back, I thought you were cool with waiting for Bond 26....no matter the release date. Or am I wrong? Pls, correct me if I'm wrong.

    The Euros in 2028 is held in the UK and begins on June 9th. I think it makes the most sense to time a new Bond film with a big national celebration like this, comparative to the London Olympics preceding the release of Skyfall in 2012.

    I hope to high heck this does not happen. A major problem with skyfall is its dovetailing of the 2011-12-era flegshegging, a time of royal weddings and Olympics, when Britain could not stop kissing its own arse.

    It isn't the fundamental reason, but such a culture made it easier for the vote leave types to spin their web of lies. With a GE in 2029, and so-called reform sadly looking in form, the last thing we need is pro-Trump Amazon's agent 007 going all Ian Fleming on us.

    I think it's much more likely that Amazon will play it safe to avoid offending half of their audience.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,015
    007HallY wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    An all-out sorceress would not have been out of place in Serpent's Tooth! I'd love to see the return of supernatural themes, and much like Dr No's dragon turning out to be a contraption, the villain's suspected fortune telling is revealed to be sourced information from one stolen quantum computer (which calculates outcomes much faster than a classic computer) and guided by AI algorithms.
    Ooh, I like that concept. Love a Bond villain who fakes supernatural powers.
    Lets hope Purvis and Wade are reading this thread. I know I would.
    mtm wrote: »
    I guess the only thing about faking supernatural powers is that it often means you have local inhabitants of wherever-we-are credulously believing it and Bond being the wise level-headed Englishman who can see through all that mumbo-jumbo, and it can get slightly insulting. So in a way I'd kind of prefer for the magic to be left unexplained and for Bond to learn he's not seen quite everything; a bit more Indy in style perhaps, but even LALD had a bit of that.
    I can kind of imagine CraigBond encountering some sort of situation like that where it's quite clear how whatever-it-is is possible, and it'd be quite refreshing.
    True, a bit of ambiguity is a good thing. Lets the mind run wild instead of having everything spelled out. A bit like when Bond deals the tarot cards and it foresees him and Solitaire escaping in 'the chariot' (bus) in the next scene. Did Bond add those specific cards to the top of the loaded deck or is the power of the Obeah at play?

    How about if the 'fortune-telling' quantum computer is destroyed in the finale. The villain stares at Bond's smoking silencer and with their dying breath says something like, "That thing will do more harm than good". And in the next movie Bond gets it caught in his waistband.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    mtm wrote: »
    I guess the only thing about faking supernatural powers is that it often means you have local inhabitants of wherever-we-are credulously believing it and Bond being the wise level-headed Englishman who can see through all that mumbo-jumbo, and it can get slightly insulting. So in a way I'd kind of prefer for the magic to be left unexplained and for Bond to learn he's not seen quite everything; a bit more Indy in style perhaps, but even LALD had a bit of that.

    LALD had an equaliser with Quarrel Jr; the local
    who knows the Baron is a con. His pop thought dragons were real, after all.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    echo wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    It seems officially the project hasn’t moved into preproduction yet— there is, as far as the industry is concerned (and not from Insneider-types), that no writers have been attached, nor a director.

    If this holds (and IMDbpro has B26 as “announcement”, and not even “in development”), then these are very early days indeed.

    yeah maybe like 2028-2029

    If we are still waiting for Bond 26 in 2029 man that would be rough. I'm hoping no later than summer 2028.

    Lol. But few days back, I thought you were cool with waiting for Bond 26....no matter the release date. Or am I wrong? Pls, correct me if I'm wrong.

    The Euros in 2028 is held in the UK and begins on June 9th. I think it makes the most sense to time a new Bond film with a big national celebration like this, comparative to the London Olympics preceding the release of Skyfall in 2012.

    I hope to high heck this does not happen. A major problem with skyfall is its dovetailing of the 2011-12-era flegshegging, a time of royal weddings and Olympics, when Britain could not stop kissing its own arse.

    It isn't the fundamental reason, but such a culture made it easier for the vote leave types to spin their web of lies. With a GE in 2029, and so-called reform sadly looking in form, the last thing we need is pro-Trump Amazon's agent 007 going all Ian Fleming on us.

    I think it's much more likely that Amazon will play it safe to avoid offending half of their audience.

    Hopefully. The less nationalism, the better.

    Alternatively, it's the Euro 28 final. Germany 1 England 0. Last minute penalty. Wembley holds its breath. Can James Bond send the country wild with relief?

    No. He's English, so he misses. The Sun calls Amazon 'woke' and is bought out and burned down by an irate Bezos.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    echo wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    It seems officially the project hasn’t moved into preproduction yet— there is, as far as the industry is concerned (and not from Insneider-types), that no writers have been attached, nor a director.

    If this holds (and IMDbpro has B26 as “announcement”, and not even “in development”), then these are very early days indeed.

    yeah maybe like 2028-2029

    If we are still waiting for Bond 26 in 2029 man that would be rough. I'm hoping no later than summer 2028.

    Lol. But few days back, I thought you were cool with waiting for Bond 26....no matter the release date. Or am I wrong? Pls, correct me if I'm wrong.

    The Euros in 2028 is held in the UK and begins on June 9th. I think it makes the most sense to time a new Bond film with a big national celebration like this, comparative to the London Olympics preceding the release of Skyfall in 2012.

    I hope to high heck this does not happen. A major problem with skyfall is its dovetailing of the 2011-12-era flegshegging, a time of royal weddings and Olympics, when Britain could not stop kissing its own arse.

    It isn't the fundamental reason, but such a culture made it easier for the vote leave types to spin their web of lies. With a GE in 2029, and so-called reform sadly looking in form, the last thing we need is pro-Trump Amazon's agent 007 going all Ian Fleming on us.

    I think it's much more likely that Amazon will play it safe to avoid offending half of their audience.

    Hopefully. The less nationalism, the better.

    Alternatively, it's the Euro 28 final. Germany 1 England 0. Last minute penalty. Wembley holds its breath. Can James Bond send the country wild with relief?

    No. He's English, so he misses. The Sun calls Amazon 'woke' and is bought out and burned down by an irate Bezos.

    No offense but if you're against any form of patriotism then you've backed the wrong franchise. The brits love their Bond, and that's not about to change.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    That doesn’t mean we all endorse nationalism.
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    Well, I think I know at lease what vehicle Bond will be using now that we have a clean SLATE.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    edited April 26 Posts: 205
    echo wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    It seems officially the project hasn’t moved into preproduction yet— there is, as far as the industry is concerned (and not from Insneider-types), that no writers have been attached, nor a director.

    If this holds (and IMDbpro has B26 as “announcement”, and not even “in development”), then these are very early days indeed.

    yeah maybe like 2028-2029

    If we are still waiting for Bond 26 in 2029 man that would be rough. I'm hoping no later than summer 2028.

    Lol. But few days back, I thought you were cool with waiting for Bond 26....no matter the release date. Or am I wrong? Pls, correct me if I'm wrong.

    The Euros in 2028 is held in the UK and begins on June 9th. I think it makes the most sense to time a new Bond film with a big national celebration like this, comparative to the London Olympics preceding the release of Skyfall in 2012.

    I hope to high heck this does not happen. A major problem with skyfall is its dovetailing of the 2011-12-era flegshegging, a time of royal weddings and Olympics, when Britain could not stop kissing its own arse.

    It isn't the fundamental reason, but such a culture made it easier for the vote leave types to spin their web of lies. With a GE in 2029, and so-called reform sadly looking in form, the last thing we need is pro-Trump Amazon's agent 007 going all Ian Fleming on us.

    I think it's much more likely that Amazon will play it safe to avoid offending half of their audience.

    Hopefully. The less nationalism, the better.

    Alternatively, it's the Euro 28 final. Germany 1 England 0. Last minute penalty. Wembley holds its breath. Can James Bond send the country wild with relief?

    No. He's English, so he misses. The Sun calls Amazon 'woke' and is bought out and burned down by an irate Bezos.

    No offense but if you're against any form of patriotism then you've backed the wrong franchise. The brits love their Bond, and that's not about to change.

    Nationalism isn't patriotism. I actually live in Britain and find the distinction telling. I'd noticed it growing up in the north of Ireland, too, during the troubles.
    That doesn’t mean we all endorse nationalism.

    I'd hope not.

    I think such symbolism ought to be taken within the confines of the plot. It works in TSWLM as it encourages the oneupmanship between Anglo-Soviet relations. Bond keeps the British end up by doing the right thing.

    Entries like DAD and Skyfall are different. Being British is the right thing to do in those. 'Pathetic love of country' is the moral.



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    Not interested in a Trump, Bezos, or Musk villain. These people bore me. Prefer a British Bond who actually likes being British. Doesn't have to wrap himself in the flag.
  • JustJamesJustJames London
    Posts: 229
    SkyFall and the Olympics etc was more the last echoes of Cool Britannia than anything particularly Jingoistic anyway. The Blair and Brosnan era teens of the nineties now with the consumer power of being in their thirties. It’s after that things got complex. Oh, and if there’s one thing to regret about that year, it’s putting Russell Effing Brand in that opening show. And that, along with all of it, was decidedly not a product of right wingers, mores the pity.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 205
    JustJames wrote: »
    SkyFall and the Olympics etc was more the last echoes of Cool Britannia than anything particularly Jingoistic anyway. The Blair and Brosnan era teens of the nineties now with the consumer power of being in their thirties. It’s after that things got complex. Oh, and if there’s one thing to regret about that year, it’s putting Russell Effing Brand in that opening show. And that, along with all of it, was decidedly not a product of right wingers, mores the pity.

    Eh?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited April 27 Posts: 8,863
    Sinners is projected to drop just 6% in its second weekend, unheard of for a horror film. People want originality in movies, and the bloated assembly line doesn't work anymore.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,121
    I want a massive skydiving sequence in a Bond film. Forget Moonraker, forget Fallout. I want fifty people dropping out of planes and fighting fifty other people mid-air, and Bond in the middle of it all. I don't care what it costs. I don't care how you explain it. Just make it happen.

    -- Harry "mattjoes" Saltzman
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
    Posts: 1,394
    Sinners is projected to drop just 6% in its second weekend, unheard of for a horror film. People want originality in movies, and the bloated assembly line doesn't work anymore.

    Don't overlook the fact that Sinners is written and directed by one of the best and most succesful mass market directors around at the moment. Yes, I agree, people want originality. But great films by great filmmakers find their audience. And horror seems to be one of the genres that still routinely gets people into theatres. So it's a very specific combination that I'm not sure a Bond film could emulate.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,666
    Since62 wrote: »
    Are posters still used ? Where ? At those historical buildings called "Movie theaters" ?

    Welcome to the post-Covid world, my friend. There's nothing left.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,662
    Sinners is projected to drop just 6% in its second weekend, unheard of for a horror film. People want originality in movies, and the bloated assembly line doesn't work anymore.

    Don't overlook the fact that Sinners is written and directed by one of the best and most succesful mass market directors around at the moment. Yes, I agree, people want originality. But great films by great filmmakers find their audience. And horror seems to be one of the genres that still routinely gets people into theatres. So it's a very specific combination that I'm not sure a Bond film could emulate.

    There was something smart about seasoning NTTD with horror.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    peter wrote: »
    It seems officially the project hasn’t moved into preproduction yet— there is, as far as the industry is concerned (and not from Insneider-types), that no writers have been attached, nor a director.

    If this holds (and IMDbpro has B26 as “announcement”, and not even “in development”), then these are very early days indeed.

    yeah maybe like 2028-2029

    If we are still waiting for Bond 26 in 2029 man that would be rough. I'm hoping no later than summer 2028.

    Lol. But few days back, I thought you were cool with waiting for Bond 26....no matter the release date. Or am I wrong? Pls, correct me if I'm wrong.

    The Euros in 2028 is held in the UK and begins on June 9th. I think it makes the most sense to time a new Bond film with a big national celebration like this, comparative to the London Olympics preceding the release of Skyfall in 2012.

    I hope to high heck this does not happen. A major problem with skyfall is its dovetailing of the 2011-12-era flegshegging, a time of royal weddings and Olympics, when Britain could not stop kissing its own arse.

    It isn't the fundamental reason, but such a culture made it easier for the vote leave types to spin their web of lies. With a GE in 2029, and so-called reform sadly looking in form, the last thing we need is pro-Trump Amazon's agent 007 going all Ian Fleming on us.

    What an obnoxious post
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 205
    peter wrote: »
    It seems officially the project hasn’t moved into preproduction yet— there is, as far as the industry is concerned (and not from Insneider-types), that no writers have been attached, nor a director.

    If this holds (and IMDbpro has B26 as “announcement”, and not even “in development”), then these are very early days indeed.

    yeah maybe like 2028-2029

    If we are still waiting for Bond 26 in 2029 man that would be rough. I'm hoping no later than summer 2028.

    Lol. But few days back, I thought you were cool with waiting for Bond 26....no matter the release date. Or am I wrong? Pls, correct me if I'm wrong.

    The Euros in 2028 is held in the UK and begins on June 9th. I think it makes the most sense to time a new Bond film with a big national celebration like this, comparative to the London Olympics preceding the release of Skyfall in 2012.

    I hope to high heck this does not happen. A major problem with skyfall is its dovetailing of the 2011-12-era flegshegging, a time of royal weddings and Olympics, when Britain could not stop kissing its own arse.

    It isn't the fundamental reason, but such a culture made it easier for the vote leave types to spin their web of lies. With a GE in 2029, and so-called reform sadly looking in form, the last thing we need is pro-Trump Amazon's agent 007 going all Ian Fleming on us.

    What an obnoxious post

    Accurate, too.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 205
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I want a massive skydiving sequence in a Bond film. Forget Moonraker, forget Fallout. I want fifty people dropping out of planes and fighting fifty other people mid-air, and Bond in the middle of it all. I don't care what it costs. I don't care how you explain it. Just make it happen.

    -- Harry "mattjoes" Saltzman

    It wouldn't work unless Bond fights a shark
  • I can’t believe a previous poster dissed Skyfall. Strange times.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I can’t believe a previous poster dissed Skyfall. Strange times.

    The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 205
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I can’t believe a previous poster dissed Skyfall. Strange times.

    The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there.

    Warming to the idea of setting a reboot in the past, as it doesn't look as though an actor can carry the can like Craig.

    Sixties-era for a film or two with an unheralded actor?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I can’t believe a previous poster dissed Skyfall. Strange times.

    The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there.

    Warming to the idea of setting a reboot in the past, as it doesn't look as though an actor can carry the can like Craig.

    Sixties-era for a film or two with an unheralded actor?

    Since things are being shaken up anyway, why not? Period Bond seems wrong and right at the same time. I'm simply not sure it would have any sort of commercial appeal.
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    I want a massive skydiving sequence in a Bond film. Forget Moonraker, forget Fallout. I want fifty people dropping out of planes and fighting fifty other people mid-air, and Bond in the middle of it all. I don't care what it costs. I don't care how you explain it. Just make it happen.

    -- Harry "mattjoes" Saltzman

    It wouldn't work unless Bond fights a shark

    Would this be a skydiving shark or one in the water upon landing from a skydive ? Are you - gasp - proposing a Bond-Nado film ? That would be too much excitement in one movie and, let's face it, people could die...in the audience, I mean. Not in the film. In the film it would be make-believe.
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    Craig was an excellent Bond, but hardly an impossible act to follow.
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Craig was an excellent Bond, but hardly an impossible act to follow.

    Agreed.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,666
    delfloria wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Craig was an excellent Bond, but hardly an impossible act to follow.

    Agreed.

    If they could replace Connery successfully they should be able to replace Craig successfully too with the right actor.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited May 1 Posts: 8,863
    As soon as they get an actor with charisma who knows how to pull off that lightness of touch people will be like putty in their hands.
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    As soon as they get an actor with charisma who knows how to pull off that lightness of touch people will be like putty in their hands.

    They just need someone with charisma and good looks. If he is sexy enough there will be no problem.

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