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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Andor is currently filming Season 2, and that’s the end of the show after that . It was always going to be just two seasons , so they have the end written (leads up to Rogue One).

    Okay, I guess I'm in for that then.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I didn’t bother with ANDOR. I thought ROGUE ONE was a chore of a film.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I didn’t bother with ANDOR. I thought ROGUE ONE was a chore of a film.

    You missed out.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I didn’t bother with ANDOR. I thought ROGUE ONE was a chore of a film.

    You missed out.

    He certainly did. I remember sitting in the theatre watching Rogue One & realizing this was the best Star Wars film in 33 frikin' years! Andor is a slow burn to show where all that mess came from just before the Death Star was finished...
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Interesting that there's some stuff between Andor S1 and Rogue One... it's been awhile since I've seen the film so I'm sure I'm forgetting exactly where it picks up, but I hope they don't fumble this second season. Definitely will watch.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Interesting that there's some stuff between Andor S1 and Rogue One... it's been awhile since I've seen the film so I'm sure I'm forgetting exactly where it picks up, but I hope they don't fumble this second season. Definitely will watch.

    I'll definitely watch it, who knows, it might be as good as season one! I just don't see how they can top it, though.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Mandalorian S3 Ep6 :)) I laughed a lot and was entertained for all the wrong reasons. Star Wars is dead, the writing is sooo bad.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't really get why this is being slated everywhere; it seemed good fun to me.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    mtm wrote: »
    I don't really get why this is being slated everywhere; it seemed good fun to me.

    It was fun though the show has jumped the shark.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    mtm wrote: »
    I don't really get why this is being slated everywhere; it seemed good fun to me.

    It was fun though the show has jumped the shark.
    All the Disney shows have been fun IMO!
    Not all have been something I'd eagerly watch a 2nd or 3rd time...
    Ambitious storytelling has replaced the smaller, more intimate Mando first two seasons.
    And, it will all lead, of course, into the recent trilogy which in my view, jumped the Sarlacc.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Why is this a jump the shark episode? I just watched it and thought it was… fine? If anything is a jump the shark moment, it’s the appearance of Luke, but thankfully that was brushed aside.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't really get why this is being slated everywhere; it seemed good fun to me.

    It was fun though the show has jumped the shark.
    All the Disney shows have been fun IMO!
    Not all have been something I'd eagerly watch a 2nd or 3rd time...
    Ambitious storytelling has replaced the smaller, more intimate Mando first two seasons.
    And, it will all lead, of course, into the recent trilogy which in my view, jumped the Sarlacc.

    I recently heard that's the end game leading Star Wars shows into the Sequels, even though the Sequels are pap its the logical thing to do.

    Episode 6 did remind me of Jonathan Swifts Gullivers Travels and Douglas Adams Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy briefly, so I guess that's something.

    Two of the star cameos made me smile.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't really get why this is being slated everywhere; it seemed good fun to me.

    It was fun though the show has jumped the shark.
    All the Disney shows have been fun IMO!
    Not all have been something I'd eagerly watch a 2nd or 3rd time...
    Ambitious storytelling has replaced the smaller, more intimate Mando first two seasons.
    And, it will all lead, of course, into the recent trilogy which in my view, jumped the Sarlacc.

    I recently heard that's the end game leading Star Wars shows into the Sequels, even though the Sequels are pap its the logical thing to do.

    That seems to be Dave Filoni’s specialty. His approach is about enriching what’s already there in canon as opposed to ignoring it. He did it for the prequels with THE CLONE WARS, and is now focusing on that era between OT and ST where we see why the New Republic was doomed.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 14,987
    chrisisall wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't really get why this is being slated everywhere; it seemed good fun to me.

    It was fun though the show has jumped the shark.
    All the Disney shows have been fun IMO!
    Not all have been something I'd eagerly watch a 2nd or 3rd time...
    Ambitious storytelling has replaced the smaller, more intimate Mando first two seasons.
    And, it will all lead, of course, into the recent trilogy which in my view, jumped the Sarlacc.
    Two of the star cameos made me smile.

    Yes, same here. I'm not convinced that Christopher Lloyd is terribly good, and generally feels like he's miscast in everything (except BTTF and Taxi). Quite funny to see him dressed as Rimmer.
    chrisisall wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't really get why this is being slated everywhere; it seemed good fun to me.

    It was fun though the show has jumped the shark.
    All the Disney shows have been fun IMO!
    Not all have been something I'd eagerly watch a 2nd or 3rd time...
    Ambitious storytelling has replaced the smaller, more intimate Mando first two seasons.
    And, it will all lead, of course, into the recent trilogy which in my view, jumped the Sarlacc.

    I recently heard that's the end game leading Star Wars shows into the Sequels, even though the Sequels are pap its the logical thing to do.

    That seems to be Dave Filoni’s specialty. His approach is about enriching what’s already there in canon as opposed to ignoring it. He did it for the prequels with THE CLONE WARS, and is now focusing on that era between OT and ST where we see why the New Republic was doomed.

    I quite like the angle its taking of the New Republic turning into the First Order, but it does mean that the Star Wars galaxy is a depressing place to visit no matter which era. It's constantly seeing authoritarian regimes rise to power culminating in violent wars: it's pretty horrible. Even in the prequels there was a disturbing semi-religious untouchable police force who had the power of mind control and used weapons to slice peoples' arms off.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, same here. I'm not convinced that Christopher Lloyd is terribly good, and generally feels like he's miscast in everything (except BTTF and Taxi).

    I liked seeing him though it stood out like a sore thumb, I will just try to enjoy the Bo-Katan show from now on though I can't take it very seriously.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't really take any Star Wars seriously: it's an adventure thing with guns and spaceships.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I used to care about SW and was very much invested in the story telling, Disney SW has successfully made me not give a $#!%, well done Disney :-q
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I used to care about SW and was very much invested in the story telling, Disney SW has successfully made me not give a $#!%, well done Disney :-q

    Funnily, Disney made me like Star Wars again, after the travesty that was the prequels. It hasn’t been perfect. I only liked two of the films they produced, (TFA & TLJ), but at least I get something out of it for the most part.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 23,407
    I used to care about SW and was very much invested in the story telling, Disney SW has successfully made me not give a $#!%, well done Disney :-q

    Funnily, Disney made me like Star Wars again, after the travesty that was the prequels. It hasn’t been perfect. I only liked two of the films they produced, (TFA & TLJ), but at least I get something out of it for the most part.

    I like the prequels.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I used to care about SW and was very much invested in the story telling, Disney SW has successfully made me not give a $#!%, well done Disney :-q

    Funnily, Disney made me like Star Wars again, after the travesty that was the prequels. It hasn’t been perfect. I only liked two of the films they produced, (TFA & TLJ), but at least I get something out of it for the most part.

    Yes I enjoyed TFA ten times more than the prequels. Rebels was good too and I think Mandalorian is loads of fun.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I used to care about SW and was very much invested in the story telling, Disney SW has successfully made me not give a $#!%, well done Disney :-q

    Funnily, Disney made me like Star Wars again, after the travesty that was the prequels. It hasn’t been perfect. I only liked two of the films they produced, (TFA & TLJ), but at least I get something out of it for the most part.

    I like the prequels.

    I kinda like Phantom Menace, not caring too much for Attack Of The Clones, but I really REALLY like Revenge Of The Sith. I even liked Solo.
    I guess it's just that I feel like I have no interest in seeing it all happen again after the Empire was defeated. Like mtm said, that makes it a messed up place all the time, with a constant state of war. I enjoy thinking that once the Empire was gone, there's a happy ending for those characters. Let the next generations deal with new rises of fascist creeps....
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    Haven't gotten to see the latest episodes of Mando. Definitely curious to see what the "shark in the room" is ;)

    Honestly I think they are wise to expand the story. The original format was great for season one, but the side quests get stale quickly when you get to season three especially.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    I used to care about SW and was very much invested in the story telling, Disney SW has successfully made me not give a $#!%, well done Disney :-q

    Funnily, Disney made me like Star Wars again, after the travesty that was the prequels. It hasn’t been perfect. I only liked two of the films they produced, (TFA & TLJ), but at least I get something out of it for the most part.

    I like the prequels.

    I kinda like Phantom Menace, not caring too much for Attack Of The Clones, but I really REALLY like Revenge Of The Sith. I even liked Solo.
    I guess it's just that I feel like I have no interest in seeing it all happen again after the Empire was defeated. Like mtm said, that makes it a messed up place all the time, with a constant state of war. I enjoy thinking that once the Empire was gone, there's a happy ending for those characters. Let the next generations deal with new rises of fascist creeps....

    I think a good dramatic point of the sequels could have gone this route: Taking down the Empire and bringing back peace is one thing, but suddenly there’s the challenge of trying to maintain that peace because it needs to constantly be worked on.

    That’s what MANDO seems to be getting into for part of its run. We know the First Order will rise down the line, but what makes that happen or at least allows it to grow? The bureaucracy of the New Republic, for one. A lot of well meaning people in it, but it feels like everyone is too tired after the war to put in effort. You have well meaning former imperial citizens who genuinely want to do good, but feel neglected by their new employers. Sending to therapy with a droid who can’t understand the nuances of humanity enough to recognize someone in pain, or recognize a wolf in sheep clothing.

    While I actually like TFA, I wish it did better world building. It was way too concerned with rushing straight back to the Empire vs Rebels dynamic. “Just have a new Death Star blow up the new capital, and BOOM!!! it’s the OT all over again!”

    It’s pretty lazy. Another reason I really like TLJ is because it actually tries to shed light into those missing years in between trilogies. It’s only concerning Kylo Ren. I would have liked to have had more context regarding the rise of the First Order, but I’ll take the Kylo Ren stuff because Adam Driver is a compelling actor doing so much heavy lifting. I like that Luke’s failure is partly because he got caught up in his own hype and has been kicking himself over his arrogance. Like the New Republic, he didn’t keep his eye on the ball and it blew up in his face in a way that made him feel like he was more a danger to the galaxy than the legendary hero people hype up.

    And then JJ got invited back and was like “lol, I don’t get what Johnson was trying to do cause I’m too stupid, but here’s my remake of ROTJ!!!”
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.starwars.com/news/swce-2023-new-star-wars-films

    I hope they actually keep these movies. I’m still disappointed that Patty Jenkins’ Rogue Squadron got cancelled. Same to a lesser degree, Taika Waititi could have been interesting. I knew Daisy Ridley would come back as Rey. I hope Mark Hamill comes back as Luke. Same for Billy Dee Williams or Donald Glover as Lando. Keep JJ Abrams away!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I already knew about Rey returning, I like Ridley though they really made a mess of her character. They could have set the rebuilding of the Jedi order further in the future with a totally new cast, oh well let's see what they come up with.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I look forward to seeing Rey not being written by JJ Abrams. He really did her dirty with TROS, and I look forward to seeing what they do with her because that character deserved so much better.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    And Ridley is very endearing as an actress as well. She made for a good lead.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It's fun to see Hera and Chopper there.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Rebels was decent enough I own the series on Bluray I may give a few episodes a rewatch leading into Ashoka, Ashoka looks as though some effort has been put into it.
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