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Excellent points. They took the Blofeld tics of the '60s and fused them to a short story, but failed to create an actual character for the film.
Yes, I've read that the film didn't go down well in North Korea. I suppose that's an understandable reaction from a Communist dictatorship heavily reliant on censorship though.
I've also read that the current North Korean leader's father, Kim Jong-il, learned to speak English from watching Star Trek episodes. Oh, and Klingon as well. ;)
My bet is thar he was also insulted to have the Bond villain be a petulant child.
Maybe it hit a little too close to home?
I just wished the film hadn't been that bad.
Me too. It's my least favourite film in the series. Instead of focusing on one or two specific areas it tries to be all things to all people and fails miserably.
The first half is good, though, right? It's only when he goes to Iceland that it falls to pieces. Or do you hate it all?
Yes, I agree. No Bond film is without merit and there's something to enjoy in all of them. The first half of Die Another Day is good when it focuses on being a serious post-9/11 spy thriller and before all of the silliness, bad CGI and genre bending comes in with the second half.
It's really is a film of two halves. I remember really liking the first hour a lot, to the point it was my favourite Brosnan film for a long time (on the premise that the first hour is so good). But the Iceland stuff gets worse every time you see it.
Not sure which is my favourite Brosnan film any more. Might have to be TND by default.
Yes, I agree, more than most Bonds it is a film of two halves. It's never been my favourite Brosnan Bond though. That would be either GE or TWINE. I find it hard to decide between them. TND was the first Bond film I saw in the cinemas but I rank it pretty lowly now.
I'm the same. He's my least favourite Bond, even though I grew up in his era. I was a Bond fan before Brosnan came along though. I think it ultimately comes down to the writing and the lack of any fidelity to anything Fleming wrote. The Brosnan era is the only one not to have any real direct lifts from Fleming.
This. People should watch Hellraiser: Revelations, the 9th Hellraiser film and one of the two worst films I have ever seen, to calibrate their quality standards before they start condemning an entire Bond film.
You've made me curious. I know The Room has become a joke / cult classic, but it's also a textbook example of how to make a film poorly. To say any Bond film is truly bad when films like this exist, is crazy!
True. I suppose you have to take it all in context too. The Bond films are one of the most successful series of the films in the history of cinema. A Bond film can be seen as bad in the context of the other Bond films that it's compared and contrasted against. I think that is what people here mean when they rate or rank the Bond films.
Certainly. I thought the comment I quoted was referencing people who think some Bond films are bad in the context of all filmmaking. Which is still a valid opinion, but it wouldn’t hurt to take a wider view of bad films.
And yes, SP aside I love all Bond films. I don't critique them in the same way I do other films. They sort of stand aside on their own.
Not sure how controversial that is...
Spectre aside, though? Well, whatever.
Yes, you're right. I just wanted to clarify what I said above in case people thought I was being too harsh about Die Another Day or any other Bond film. Context is key in all criticism of films or other areas of the Arts.
Not at all controversial. There are Bond films I dislike more than it (specifically DAD and AVTAK) but at least they’re not as lazy and uneventful as TMWTGG.
DAF is lazy, but fairly enjoyable. Sorta.
True of a few films, I believe. Which leads to a question: does anyone know if Eon’s rights to Bond expire if they do not release a film within a given time period?
Yes, I hate the film.
Yes, and it’s one thing to compare it to other Bond films, which is fair, but to compare it to properly bad films outside of the franchise? Insane.
In my case I hate it all.