No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited October 2020 Posts: 35,184
    Tuxedo wrote: »
    Who knows. But I doubt they will make that much money in cinemas in the near future. Many cinemas are gone or struggle in the main markets. It is sad.

    That's what I keep coming back to - there may not even be theaters to show these films in 6-12 months time.
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    Six months ago, I would have said hold out but. seeing where we are today, COVID is a long turn issue with no end in site. "There comes a time to turn Mother's picture to the wall and get out!" take the money and start doing background work on the next release to try and be ready when things to get better.
  • StarkStark France
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 3,859
    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Cary said that there wouldn’t be any AR change for IMAX scenes in NTTD?
  • patb wrote: »
    Six months ago, I would have said hold out but. seeing where we are today, COVID is a long turn issue with no end in site. "There comes a time to turn Mother's picture to the wall and get out!" take the money and start doing background work on the next release to try and be ready when things to get better.

    Hard for me to say, but at the moment I'm inclined to agree with you . . . perhaps the smart play is to take the sure thing. If the $500 million figure is accurate, that's a bit of over their break-even point and that may be the best to hope for at the moment.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2020 Posts: 3,859
    It seems they’re offering way more than $500 million.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Dare I say it: but if NTTD goes straight to streaming, I know Babs is working the phones hard to get DC and CJF to do Bond 26. This is NOT the way DC would want to go out. Then again...maybe it is.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Dare I say it: but if NTTD goes straight to streaming, I know Babs is working the phones hard to get DC and CJF to do Bond 26. This is NOT the way DC would want to go out. Then again...maybe it is.

    Craig has probably had enough of how stressful his tenure has been. Seems like there’s been issues with everyone of his films getting off the ground.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    At least if they decided to stream it they could ramp up the marketing again. Imagine if they hyped it up, even had a countdown to the stream. I think with the right marketing Netflix could have millions of people watching it at the same time and tons of new subscribers who paid just to see No Time to Die. The price of Netflix per month is basically is one movie ticket anyways.
  • StarkStark France
    edited October 2020 Posts: 153
    matt_u wrote: »
    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Cary said that there wouldn’t be any AR change for IMAX scenes in NTTD?

    No he said (in American Cinematographer Magazine) that he wanted to avoid irritating aspect ratio changes by having entire sequences in IMAX. For exemple, the entire pre titles will be in 1.43:1, then going into 2.40 after the opening credits.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Please be true, please be true, please be true. (Said with eyes closed and fingers crossed)
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    Stark wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.

    If NTTD goes to streaming I think they'll retain the aspect ratio shifts. The Aeronauts on Amazon was shot in the expanded aspect ratio digitally and kept the AR changes when they changed from a full theatrical release to an accelerated Prime Video release.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Cary said that there wouldn’t be any AR change for IMAX scenes in NTTD?

    No he said (in American Cinematographer Magazine) that he wanted to avoid irritating aspect ratio changes by having entire sequences in IMAX. For exemple, the entire pre titles will be in 1.43:1, then going into 2.40 after the opening credits.

    Cool.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 2,132
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Dare I say it: but if NTTD goes straight to streaming, I know Babs is working the phones hard to get DC and CJF to do Bond 26. This is NOT the way DC would want to go out. Then again...maybe it is.

    Craig has probably had enough of how stressful his tenure has been. Seems like there’s been issues with everyone of his films getting off the ground.

    He probably got sick of Purvis and Wade writing everyone of his scripts lol. However, Babs bowed down to his every demand, so that’s why we’ve had him so long.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Stark wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.

    I don’t think that’s right: I’m sure I watched Fallout on Netflix a few months ago and the aspect ratio changes were kept intact. The change for the skydiving sequence is fantastic.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 364
    From Drew McWeeny, who initially reported the rumour on Twitter yesterday.

    "When Apple TV+ comes to the table with a $600 million check (one of the numbers I’ve heard is actually higher than that) for a one-year exclusive window on a film, that’s a number that you have to pay attention to, no matter what your history and no matter how much you cherish the theatrical experience."

    "This is the big one for MGM. This movie is make or break for a studio that has basically been playing a financial shell game for years. It’s amazing that MGM has the legacy it does considering how long it has been limping along as a barely-functioning production entity."

    "When your last film in the franchise made just over $800 million worldwide, and someone’s offering you almost that much for a single streaming window? That’s a conversation you have."

    https://drewmcweeny.substack.com/p/could-james-bond-really-die-at-home

    However, it's also worth noting (and he even acknowledges this) that such a deal would have a huge amount of kinks that would need to be ironed out vis-à-vis MGM/Universal/EON's percentages and any legal issues relating to international rights and no decisions have been made.
  • Posts: 601
    It’s happening. It’s happening. It’s happening.
  • Posts: 1,407
    mtm wrote: »
    Stark wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.

    I don’t think that’s right: I’m sure I watched Fallout on Netflix a few months ago and the aspect ratio changes were kept intact. The change for the skydiving sequence is fantastic.

    The gradual slow change that Fallout does is fantastic and every film should do it
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
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    Apple played the Bond theme presenting one of their new iPhones last week. Just saying.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    At this point, I hope it happens. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see NTTD in a theater, but not if they keep delaying it over and over again. I just want to see the movie, theater or not.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 3,152

    "MGM declined to comment on any talks, but said the film “is not for sale.”"
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited October 2020 Posts: 5,131
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    At this point, I hope it happens. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see NTTD in a theater, but not if they keep delaying it over and over again. I just want to see the movie, theater or not.

    Agreed.

    As long as it makes sufficient money to get the next film made, I don’t see the problem. Get the cash in to get all business going and investments continuing.

    Hopefully it’ll be on Netflix if the rumours are true. Does anyone even watch Appletv??
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 187
    antovolk wrote: »

    "MGM declined to comment on any talks, but said the film “is not for sale.”"

    Then they are idiots. If they passed on anything upwards of 500 mil considering cases are skyrocketing and April is not a guarantee, they will be hemorrhaging more money. There is no way any movie in the next year or so gets even close to 1 billion, let alone anywhere near what Spectre made. This kind of deal is how they survive and make a profit rather than a subpar ghost town release and not make a profit.

    They need to pull their heads out of their behinds and adapt with the circumstances. At least for the time being, the majority don't want to risk a theater experience. It sucks but thats the reality. And its better than sitting on a finished film for years. Its already a joke that they are about to match the longest length of time between Bond films.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2020 Posts: 3,859
    antovolk wrote: »

    "MGM declined to comment on any talks, but said the film “is not for sale.”"

    Of course it’s “officially” not for sale, they’re inbetween negotiations.
    It’s happening. It’s happening. It’s happening.

    I’m starting to believe so. It’s a win win situation. They could even re-release the film in 2022 for the 60th Anniversary once the one year deal expires...

    If it won’t happen it’s mainly because of Barbara, I suppose.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 2,406
    Stark wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.

    First Man does on Netflix. Also bear in mind that neither Skyfall or Spectre were presented on Blu-ray with shifting aspect ratios.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,754
    antovolk wrote: »

    "MGM declined to comment on any talks, but said the film “is not for sale.”"

    Unbelievable.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 3,859
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »

    "MGM declined to comment on any talks, but said the film “is not for sale.”"

    Unbelievable.

    The fact that they still haven’t closed such an indispensable deal or the idea that NTTD will likely come out on Netflix or Apple Plus?
  • StarkStark France
    Posts: 153
    mtm wrote: »
    Stark wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.

    I don’t think that’s right: I’m sure I watched Fallout on Netflix a few months ago and the aspect ratio changes were kept intact. The change for the skydiving sequence is fantastic.

    We don't have Fallout on Netflix in France but for the films available shot in Imax (like Dunkirk, Interstellar ...) the aspect ratio doesn't change.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    I think they'll go through with it. These talks don't just make news without substance. That comment by MGM is just a throwaway line.
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