No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited October 2020 Posts: 4,079
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I find it interesting that the DB5 will survive the PTS.
    After Bond leaves Swann at the train station we find Bond in Jamaica after 5 years. Then he takes the V8 in London, goes to Swann’s cabin in Norway and then he will likely leave it there. We know that the very end of the film will feature Italy and the fictional Civita Lucana town previously seen in the PTS, and thanks to the sheets
    we know Swann will drive the V8, left by Bond at her place, through the tunnel entering the town with the kid on her side.
    Since they’re alone driving his car it’s pretty clear Bond will sacrifice himself in this one. But is it possible that they will close the film with an hint of his survival? Like this: the two arrive in the V8 by the same hotel* of the PTS, they exit, Swann sees a DB5 parked in the distance, cut to “JB will return” with the theme pumping.
    If the intention is to kill Bond but in the very end revealing to the audience that he’s actually not, in a less obvious way than let’s say the Bruce and Selina reveal at the end of TDKR, I can’t imagine a better option than using his beloved and most famous car, that conveniently doesn’t get destroyed throughout the film.

    * It will be a cool parallel to SP, since also Swann’s parents and even Mr. White alone kept on going to the same honeymoon suite after the marriage. The Matera suite could represent the same for their daughter.

    I would really like this as a possible ending. I think it is a nice way to tie in all the use of the DB5 over the craig era. It has almost become an extension of the Bond character in this Craig era.

    I'm thinking that it will be more than a hint. I have been wrong more times than not when it comes to the Craig era, so I know I am probably wrong here. But I can't wrap my mind around two "ideas" that have come to the surface: that Nomi is 007 and that Bond will die. From a branding and marketing perspective, this just makes no sense. After opening night, word of both would leak quickly, and your typical, general moviegoer would be saying, "I don't want to go watch a Bond movie in which Bond is no longer 007 and then he dies."

    No, I think the better, more emotional ending, is that Bond allows Madeleine and child to believe he is dead so that they may live out their lives safely. That is the ultimate sacrifice.
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    Univex wrote: »
    That last one deserves a caption contest :D

    Agree!

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  • cwl007cwl007 England
    Posts: 489
    TripAces wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I find it interesting that the DB5 will survive the PTS.
    After Bond leaves Swann at the train station we find Bond in Jamaica after 5 years. Then he takes the V8 in London, goes to Swann’s cabin in Norway and then he will likely leave it there. We know that the very end of the film will feature Italy and the fictional Civita Lucana town previously seen in the PTS, and thanks to the sheets
    we know Swann will drive the V8, left by Bond at her place, through the tunnel entering the town with the kid on her side.
    Since they’re alone driving his car it’s pretty clear Bond will sacrifice himself in this one. But is it possible that they will close the film with an hint of his survival? Like this: the two arrive in the V8 by the same hotel* of the PTS, they exit, Swann sees a DB5 parked in the distance, cut to “JB will return” with the theme pumping.
    If the intention is to kill Bond but in the very end revealing to the audience that he’s actually not, in a less obvious way than let’s say the Bruce and Selina reveal at the end of TDKR, I can’t imagine a better option than using his beloved and most famous car, that conveniently doesn’t get destroyed throughout the film.

    * It will be a cool parallel to SP, since also Swann’s parents and even Mr. White alone kept on going to the same honeymoon suite after the marriage. The Matera suite could represent the same for their daughter.

    I would really like this as a possible ending. I think it is a nice way to tie in all the use of the DB5 over the craig era. It has almost become an extension of the Bond character in this Craig era.

    I'm thinking that it will be more than a hint. I have been wrong more times than not when it comes to the Craig era, so I know I am probably wrong here. But I can't wrap my mind around two "ideas" that have come to the surface: that Nomi is 007 and that Bond will die. From a branding and marketing perspective, this just makes no sense. After opening night, word of both would leak quickly, and your typical, general moviegoer would be saying, "I don't want to go watch a Bond movie in which Bond is no longer 007 and then he dies."

    No, I think the better, more emotional ending, is that Bond allows Madeleine and child to believe he is dead so that they may live out their lives safely. That is the ultimate sacrifice.

    Good shout, I really like that as an ending, that would be a very satisfying end to the Craig era.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 10,884
    Nice one, @Zekidk
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    That last one deserves a caption contest :D

    Agree!

    kRZ0vv8.jpg

    Ahah, perfect =D>
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 3,166
    That's exactly what I was thinking, @Zekidk , when pasting the pics in order. =D>
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    Lea looks like an American with her gap tooth.
  • Lea looks like an American with her gap tooth.
    I thought that was a London thing 😉
  • wetnellywetnelly Nearby
    Posts: 38
    cwl007 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I find it interesting that the DB5 will survive the PTS.
    After Bond leaves Swann at the train station we find Bond in Jamaica after 5 years. Then he takes the V8 in London, goes to Swann’s cabin in Norway and then he will likely leave it there. We know that the very end of the film will feature Italy and the fictional Civita Lucana town previously seen in the PTS, and thanks to the sheets
    we know Swann will drive the V8, left by Bond at her place, through the tunnel entering the town with the kid on her side.
    Since they’re alone driving his car it’s pretty clear Bond will sacrifice himself in this one. But is it possible that they will close the film with an hint of his survival? Like this: the two arrive in the V8 by the same hotel* of the PTS, they exit, Swann sees a DB5 parked in the distance, cut to “JB will return” with the theme pumping.
    If the intention is to kill Bond but in the very end revealing to the audience that he’s actually not, in a less obvious way than let’s say the Bruce and Selina reveal at the end of TDKR, I can’t imagine a better option than using his beloved and most famous car, that conveniently doesn’t get destroyed throughout the film.

    * It will be a cool parallel to SP, since also Swann’s parents and even Mr. White alone kept on going to the same honeymoon suite after the marriage. The Matera suite could represent the same for their daughter.

    I would really like this as a possible ending. I think it is a nice way to tie in all the use of the DB5 over the craig era. It has almost become an extension of the Bond character in this Craig era.

    I'm thinking that it will be more than a hint. I have been wrong more times than not when it comes to the Craig era, so I know I am probably wrong here. But I can't wrap my mind around two "ideas" that have come to the surface: that Nomi is 007 and that Bond will die. From a branding and marketing perspective, this just makes no sense. After opening night, word of both would leak quickly, and your typical, general moviegoer would be saying, "I don't want to go watch a Bond movie in which Bond is no longer 007 and then he dies."

    No, I think the better, more emotional ending, is that Bond allows Madeleine and child to believe he is dead so that they may live out their lives safely. That is the ultimate sacrifice.

    Good shout, I really like that as an ending, that would be a very satisfying end to the Craig era.

    I was unsure whether to post this or not, but knowing a few Pinewood folk, one of them mentioned ages ago they had been up to the top of Finland or close to the Arctic circle to film DC in a scene where he appeared to be an injured loner. Only after reading that CJF reportedly shot multiple endings, and the comment from BB & MW did the YOLT novel ending seem more plausible. Then another person told me the final shot of the film is expected to make the audience rise to applaud, similar to CR .....certainly would make total sense given the arc dimension to this series, and the circle of Bond starting and ending as a loner...what ever the outcome, it sounds like they truly thought about the fans and their love of the character for this one.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Asian marketing with 2021

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    The Bond series has a history of pretty dreadful or unimaginative endings IMHO. Unlike any other in the series, there are expectations concerning literally the last thirty seconds. It could make or break the whole movie. Goodness, I hope they get it right.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
    edited October 2020 Posts: 214
    500+ Million: Netflix and Apple TV+ battle for right to stream NTTD according to German website Filmstarts: http://www.filmstarts.de/nachrichten/18533068.html

    Edit: Sorry for posting here. I just learned there is a thread for this topic..
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,654
    Tuxedo wrote: »
    500+ Million: Netflix and Apple TV+ battle for right to stream NTTD according to German website Filmstarts: http://www.filmstarts.de/nachrichten/18533068.html

    Edit: Sorry for posting here. I just learned there is a thread for this topic..

    I wonder how true this is. If it is, will it come to fruition? At this point, I would not mind watching the movie at home. I just want to see the movie.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
    edited October 2020 Posts: 214
    Who knows. But I doubt they will make that much money in cinemas in the near future. Many cinemas are gone or struggle in the main markets. It is sad.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited October 2020 Posts: 34,009
    Tuxedo wrote: »
    Who knows. But I doubt they will make that much money in cinemas in the near future. Many cinemas are gone or struggle in the main markets. It is sad.

    That's what I keep coming back to - there may not even be theaters to show these films in 6-12 months time.
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    Six months ago, I would have said hold out but. seeing where we are today, COVID is a long turn issue with no end in site. "There comes a time to turn Mother's picture to the wall and get out!" take the money and start doing background work on the next release to try and be ready when things to get better.
  • StarkStark France
    Posts: 71
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 2,568
    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Cary said that there wouldn’t be any AR change for IMAX scenes in NTTD?
  • patb wrote: »
    Six months ago, I would have said hold out but. seeing where we are today, COVID is a long turn issue with no end in site. "There comes a time to turn Mother's picture to the wall and get out!" take the money and start doing background work on the next release to try and be ready when things to get better.

    Hard for me to say, but at the moment I'm inclined to agree with you . . . perhaps the smart play is to take the sure thing. If the $500 million figure is accurate, that's a bit of over their break-even point and that may be the best to hope for at the moment.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2020 Posts: 2,568
    It seems they’re offering way more than $500 million.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,079
    Dare I say it: but if NTTD goes straight to streaming, I know Babs is working the phones hard to get DC and CJF to do Bond 26. This is NOT the way DC would want to go out. Then again...maybe it is.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,654
    TripAces wrote: »
    Dare I say it: but if NTTD goes straight to streaming, I know Babs is working the phones hard to get DC and CJF to do Bond 26. This is NOT the way DC would want to go out. Then again...maybe it is.

    Craig has probably had enough of how stressful his tenure has been. Seems like there’s been issues with everyone of his films getting off the ground.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    At least if they decided to stream it they could ramp up the marketing again. Imagine if they hyped it up, even had a countdown to the stream. I think with the right marketing Netflix could have millions of people watching it at the same time and tons of new subscribers who paid just to see No Time to Die. The price of Netflix per month is basically is one movie ticket anyways.
  • StarkStark France
    edited October 2020 Posts: 71
    matt_u wrote: »
    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Cary said that there wouldn’t be any AR change for IMAX scenes in NTTD?

    No he said (in American Cinematographer Magazine) that he wanted to avoid irritating aspect ratio changes by having entire sequences in IMAX. For exemple, the entire pre titles will be in 1.43:1, then going into 2.40 after the opening credits.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
    Posts: 489
    Please be true, please be true, please be true. (Said with eyes closed and fingers crossed)
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    Stark wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.

    If NTTD goes to streaming I think they'll retain the aspect ratio shifts. The Aeronauts on Amazon was shot in the expanded aspect ratio digitally and kept the AR changes when they changed from a full theatrical release to an accelerated Prime Video release.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 2,568
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Cary said that there wouldn’t be any AR change for IMAX scenes in NTTD?

    No he said (in American Cinematographer Magazine) that he wanted to avoid irritating aspect ratio changes by having entire sequences in IMAX. For exemple, the entire pre titles will be in 1.43:1, then going into 2.40 after the opening credits.

    Cool.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 1,775
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Dare I say it: but if NTTD goes straight to streaming, I know Babs is working the phones hard to get DC and CJF to do Bond 26. This is NOT the way DC would want to go out. Then again...maybe it is.

    Craig has probably had enough of how stressful his tenure has been. Seems like there’s been issues with everyone of his films getting off the ground.

    He probably got sick of Purvis and Wade writing everyone of his scripts lol. However, Babs bowed down to his every demand, so that’s why we’ve had him so long.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 6,334

    Stark wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but movies shot in IMAX on Apple TV and Netflix don't change their aspect ratio for Imax scenes like the Bluray does. For me that would ruin the experience. I'll wait to see it in Imax or Bluray.

    I don’t think that’s right: I’m sure I watched Fallout on Netflix a few months ago and the aspect ratio changes were kept intact. The change for the skydiving sequence is fantastic.
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