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He’s not my favourite. But the arguments for him are certainly sensible. Looks-wise he needs to ‘age’ a bit first.
Sorry, no; I wasn’t clear- I mean there’s no reason to think they’d be more successful now.
I don’t really follow? They’re making the Craig films at the moment: making the next films in the vein of the Craig ones wouldn’t seem like a change to me.
I’m not saying there has to be a change, but that’s what the conversation was.
Personally I wouldn’t mind them being slightly lighter.
'The name's Bond, Jamie Bond'
That’s what I meant about him needing to ‘age’......quite a bit.
Also members need to stop trying to over police this site, just let people talk about their opinions. If they’re not antagonising anyone or presenting their opinion as fact, what’s the problem?
I don't think they would really be in the vein of the Craig films as we'd be "going back to Fleming". Beyond CR, which will likely be almost twenty years ago when the new Bond arrives, there's been little to no Fleming in his films. There's about as much influence from the novels in SP (and NTTD, by the looks of it so far) as there was in something like TWINE.
Yes, that's true, though it's usually along with Casino Royale and Skyfall, in fairness! Those two still have a very firm grip on people's minds.
A few years is a long time. Just look at 2020 all by itself!
I think beyond Hoult, who has taken the stage as he's the most recent suggestion, I still quite like the idea of Richard Madden for the part. The idea took root during Bodyguard and hasn't left my mind yet.
I've lost track of what we're discussing then. You said 'the approach worked well with Craig' but we're not suggesting going down the Craig route?
Personally I'd say the crater base, Bond's seduction of Bellucci etc. in Spectre feels more like anything from Fleming than most of The Living Daylights does. You've obviously got the Bratislavia bit, but that's gone pretty quickly. And already Bond living in Jamaica in NTTD gives off the pretty strong vibes more than Dalton, I dunno, with a hamper or ruched leather jacket. I'm not saying they didn't have a go with Fleming (the beginning of LTK I think he's looking like the spit of Fleming's Bond) but Craig's stuff has evoked the feel of the novels more often for me.
Yeah I think he's looking a bit more mature in that Armani ad.
I said the "straight approach" worked with Craig. Playing it straight doesn't equal taking direct inspiration from Fleming, which is what was suggested for the next era. All thumbs are fingers but not all fingerd are thumbs, I guess? :P Beyond Casino Royale, the Craig era hasn't really done that for me. It was just an example of why I feel Dalton's films would likely be better received had he, in a different world, arrived at the time Daniel Craig did.
That's fair enough - people will pick up on different things in different ways, I suppose. I'm working my way through them again and I don't get that vibe with Spectre having rewatched it recently - at least, no more than I did with some of the lip service afforded to it in the Moore or Brosnan eras.
I totally hear this...he just seems a tad boy-ish at the moment....which I think works against him. Maybe because I just see him as a child actor, it's weird to see him as a grown man.
Though on that motorcycle, he does looks like a bit of a smouldering babe. I can see Eon flirting with the idea of Hoult. Though, he has been ont eh scene for a long while and hasn't really broken through. Despite a lot of prominent starry roles. He always seems ont he cusp of breaking through. He isn't exactly that most renowned actor on the indie scenes (like Robert Pattinson) or made much of his blockbuster films (those woeful X-Men films).
He might be a bit of a spent commodity. But he is young and I haven't seen The Great.
I echo this sentiment wholly.
It's the chief reason I'm a bit gutted that we can't have Robert Pattinson. He would perfectly fit into the category of an edgy, interesting proper actor. Someone who would make bold choices and excite interesting directors to work on the franchise. Sadly, the Batman connection may have killed that chance.
Speaking of Batman though, the recent news that Michael Keaton will reprise his iconic role has got me thinking. Maybe the next Bond should be an old Bond? Why not let Quentin Tarantino make his Bond film with Pierce Brosnan?
Eon are in the business of courting A-list directors these days, having Quentin and giving him a smaller $90-100m budget and bringing back Pierce would be a helluva bold move. It almost be a Bond concept album....something to whet appetites before the 'big reboot'....perhaps it's a littler too experimental.
But I think the Batman franchise are doing precisely this now - especially in light of Joker, the film with R-Patz and now Michael Keaton's return.
I'd kinda love it.....
However, the whole 'Old Bond' angle seems to be played out after SF, SP and NTTD (which seems to be focussing on it especially). So maybe a younger Bond is required. Watching Bond as an SAS agent who gets recruited by MI6 to carry out a job sounds like an appealing film. I could see Timothee Chalamet (he is sufficiently edgy and interesting) to play such a role.
There are 100's of different directions the story could take...we will have to wait till a director and writer is hired for Bond 26 before we can narrow down our speculation.
He’s better looking, he’s a lot taller, he’s a British actor rather than American (or French). He also looks older than 21 and not like Harry Potters best friend.
Kidding ;)
I'd be fine with Hoult. When he wants to and is given proper material to work with, he's a very good actor. He's a good thespian in every registry, even in comedy.
We'll, Aidan Turner or Nicholas Hoult would win then.
I'd be a happy fan.
But they will never do that.
Ha ha ha! At 6ft 3in he’s nearly too tall!! Ha ha! An inch over Moore and Connery! Fleming had Bond at 6ft....tall for the 50’s. Slightly above UK average now (5ft 10in).
Here's him next to a very tall guy ;)
And next to a very tall lady (stolen from the Poldark set). Can we have a petition to have Eleanor Tomlinson as his Bond gi...woman?
I can't imagine a worse idea I'm afraid! :D We'd have ended up with that chunk of wood Cavill last time if they'd done that :)
Woah, he is tall isn't he? I knew he was above average alright, but he's quite the pillar!
nah if we are bringing older actors back deage Dalton and give us a third Dalton film!
1. Do you see the actor defeating the likes of Robert Shaw, Andreas Wiszniewski, or Dave Bautista in a fist fight?
2. Do you see the actor being credible on (and off) screen against Adolfo Celi, Telly Savalas, Christopher Lee, Robert Davi, Sean Bean, or Javier Bardem?
3. Does the actor look like he can seduce Daniela Bianchi, Luciana Paluzzi, Diana Rigg, Maud Adams, Sophie Marceau, or Monica Bellucci?
4. Can the actor successfully pull off wearing a kilt?
Definitely agreed - it takes brains as well to defeat pure brawn.
That's a very interesting litmus test.
However. If you had applied that to Daniel Craig prior to Bond there's no way anyone would have suggested he could pull Bellucci. And anyone watching the finished film is likely to remain unconvinced too, I would suggest. Hence why we never actually see him seducing anyone - in the Craig films it usually cuts to him in bed or shower with someone because he's so dreadful in the seduction scenes (or, more charitably, they are very badly written).
I like this! Good list.
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I don't think he's really a leading man, but he's been good in a couple of supporting roles I've seen him in.