Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 4,400
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Shame he shot himself in the foot. Didn’t Salmon start autographing the name James Bond before he’d even been considered to be cast in the role? Cause he was considered to be 007 after Brosnan right?

    I think the story is that when casting the Miranda Frost role, they used Colin Salmon for the auditions playing Bond. On the LTK DVD, they also reveal that Robert Davi played Bond in the auditions and was said to be rather good.

    In fairness, in that photo posted above Salmon looks lightyears more Bond-ian than Brosnan. Why does Pierce look so jowly? Bad angle.

    I always thought Robinson was such a significant role...but let's be real, he was a glorified extra. Nonetheless, I do concur that Salmon had something in the 1990s/early 00's to be Bond.....Though i'm unsure of the etiquette of playing another character in the franchise then playing Bond.

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    Bond 26 isn't an apple in it's father's eye yet, so we have to look at younger actors. I think Sope Dirisu looks a lot older than his 29 years. I think he could be an A-list star with a role like Bond...but I do think we need to focus on actors in their 20's or early 30's.

    Two names who we have spoken about and have had more exposure this past weekend are Harris Dickinson and Nicholas Hoult. Both very credible names....I'm really swaying towards Hoult. Remember he was almost Batman.

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'm liking Hoult the more I think about him.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2020 Posts: 15,060
    He feels most likely to me because of his experience and yet not being a top shelf star just yet.
    I don’t personally think he’s perfect for it but he can do it and just seems the most likely candidate.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I can see it with Hoult, but I just think there are much better actors around his age that have more of an edge.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited June 2020 Posts: 8,046
    His face certainly looks young, but he is still only 30. His features have a cruelty to them that could become more prominent between now and the time it takes for him to step on set in character for the first time. It's likely that he will be mid-30s by then, after all.

    Even Roger Moore looked too young at one point, though admittedly his hair is quite phenomenal in pretty much every photo of him.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.
    Exactly my thoughts on Callum ;)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Lol...
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Yeah, I think young-looking British actors with potential to appear more rugged and tougher as their tenure goes on, might be the ones EON are looking at for the next Era. It's even looking increasingly likely that the next Era would definitely be different, so maybe a bit of the debonair demeanour might return, coz I think any attempt by the actor or EON to immediately follow Craig's Bond style might result in unfavourable comparisons for Bond 7.

    We've grown too accustomed to Craig's face that even if an actor with a face like Lazenby or Brosnan actor shows up, we might say he doesn't look the part.....and it's funny, coz most fans didn't think Craig looked the part back in 2005. Now we want the next Bond to be as rugged as Craig, just like we would have easily accepted Sam Worthington for Casino Royale, because he looks very much like Brosnan.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Yeah, I think young-looking British actors with potential to appear more rugged and tougher as their tenure goes on, might be the ones EON are looking at for the next Era. It's even looking increasingly likely that the next Era would definitely be different, so maybe a bit of the debonair demeanour might return, coz I think any attempt by the actor or EON to immediately follow Craig's Bond style might result in unfavourable comparisons for Bond 7.

    We've grown too accustomed to Craig's face that even if an actor with a face like Lazenby or Brosnan actor shows up, we might say he doesn't look the part.....and it's funny, coz most fans didn't think Craig looked the part back in 2005. Now we want the next Bond to be as rugged as Craig, just like we would have easily accepted Sam Worthington for Casino Royale, because he looks very much like Brosnan.

    Sam Worthington doesn’t look like Brosnan to me. Anyhow, he isn’t British. So I never felt him suitable. He’s a tad bland too.

    Craig’s been brilliant, but I agree a return to a debonair, ‘posher’ 007 would be great.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited June 2020 Posts: 8,006
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.

    Well, in part it’s based on how he’s matured over the last 5 years, not to mention what a bit of added , quality, weight would do.
    With that said, if they want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career, I believe he looks suitable as is.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,869
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,006
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    Yeah, EON needs to know from the start if they're going to do standalone adventures or serialize them....to avoid contrived retconning, so we don't hear tomorrow that M is Q's uncle🤣....just kidding....that will never happen. I just prefer the return of Standalone Bond films though, so they don't write themselves into another tight spot.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 15,060
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Two of the bottom three least successful Bond movies. Surely not.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,046
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Two of the bottom three least successful Bond movies. Surely not.

    Would those films be as unsuccessful if they were being released now, though? The straighter approach seems to have worked pretty well with Daniel Craig, despite a couple of creative hiccups.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,006
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Well of course Fleming is the blue print but plotting a cinematic course has it's own considerations.

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,131
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Two of the bottom three least successful Bond movies. Surely not.

    Loved by the fans. But agreed, not generally loved by the casual viewer who doesn’t really know much about Bond.

    The Living Daylights grossed the equivalent of $191.2 million worldwide though, including some ‘opening records’. So I’m not sure where your getting you’re facts from....I assume adjusted for inflation only.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    I think it's pretty clear that Nicholas Hoult is the best choice to take on the role of James Bond after Daniel Craig departs the role.
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    He's a very talented young actor, who hasn't quite made the break through into leading man status. He's also just under the radar as a household name, though well known enough to immediately be acceptable in the role. That is of course, if he would want the role.
    He's got to be a favourite.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    One of the best Bondian pics I’ve seen of him. I still say he has to grow into his looks a bit but there should be enough time for that.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 15,060
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Two of the bottom three least successful Bond movies. Surely not.

    Would those films be as unsuccessful if they were being released now, though? The straighter approach seems to have worked pretty well with Daniel Craig, despite a couple of creative hiccups.

    I don’t know if there’s much reason to think they would be. The Craig films are a different mix, and if the advice is to change the course of the Bond films by doing what the Craig ones are doing then it’s not much of a change :)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2020 Posts: 15,060
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Two of the bottom three least successful Bond movies. Surely not.

    Loved by the fans. But agreed, not generally loved by the casual viewer who doesn’t really know much about Bond.

    The Living Daylights grossed the equivalent of $191.2 million worldwide though, including some ‘opening records’. So I’m not sure where your getting you’re facts from....I assume adjusted for inflation only.

    That’s the only way to judge them against the other films, yes.
    I don’t think anyone has to ‘know much about Bond’ to get it: this is hardly obscure stuff. It’s big mainstream audience pleasing blockbuster fare. It’s for casual viewers.

    Benny wrote: »
    I think it's pretty clear that Nicholas Hoult is the best choice to take on the role of James Bond after Daniel Craig departs the role.
    7vsbgdj3nl3j.jpg

    He's a very talented young actor, who hasn't quite made the break through into leading man status. He's also just under the radar as a household name, though well known enough to immediately be acceptable in the role. That is of course, if he would want the role.
    He's got to be a favourite.

    Yes I’d say you’re right: he comes the closest to ticking all of the boxes required. I would have thought he’s the favourite.
    He isn’t one I have strong feelings about either way, but he’s the one that makes the most sense at the moment. As you say: ability, experience and profile are all in the right place.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,006
    Benny wrote: »
    I think it's pretty clear that Nicholas Hoult is the best choice to take on the role of James Bond after Daniel Craig departs the role.
    7vsbgdj3nl3j.jpg

    He's a very talented young actor, who hasn't quite made the break through into leading man status. He's also just under the radar as a household name, though well known enough to immediately be acceptable in the role. That is of course, if he would want the role.
    He's got to be a favourite.

    Great photo...
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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited June 2020 Posts: 8,046
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Two of the bottom three least successful Bond movies. Surely not.

    Would those films be as unsuccessful if they were being released now, though? The straighter approach seems to have worked pretty well with Daniel Craig, despite a couple of creative hiccups.

    I don’t know if there’s much reason to think they would be. The Craig films are a different mix, and if the advice is to change the course of the Bond films by doing what the Craig ones are doing then it’s not much of a change :)

    I agree, there's no reason to think they would be unsuccessful now.

    A question though; if the Craig films are a different mix (I agree, they are; the straightness I refer to above is mainly in terms of atmosphere and attitude rather than story, which people seem to appreciate) to the more directly Fleming-inspired Dalton ones, how would that not be a change? Surely it would be? Though I feel this is more to do with scripting than the actual actor's approach, so perhaps the "What comes next for Bond after Daniel Craig?" thread might be more suited to the discussion.

    A film, made with similar aims to the Dalton films, starring someone like Hoult - or any of the other interesting contenders posted here - in five years would really excite me, personally. And I think films like that would be more accepted now than they were then.

    Though I think they will probably go for lighter fare storywise than either of the above tenures, next time.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hoult's face still looks very young to me, if one get's what i mean.

    Which is perfect; If he starts his tenure in 5 years he will have a bit more maturity to his look, but will be in a position to stay in the role for some time.

    The big problem with that is we don't know if he might mature in 5 years, it's just an assumption. He may or may not, which is why i can't say that for sure at the moment. My opinion might change in 5 yrs but i can't see him at the moment.
    With that said, if the want to do an established Bond , who is still early in his career...
    I do think this is the best move for the next era. They need really freshen things up for the next film.

    The biggest 'refresh' they could do is to actually start making and releasing some films. The contract should be three films in 6 years, with a planned outline of where the story could go and the overall tone (and still be relatively standalone), and with options of extending the contract after that.

    A big yes to this; there needs to be a vision, a blueprint for the course of the next incarnation.

    The blue print is Fleming surely. Like the Dalton era.

    Two of the bottom three least successful Bond movies. Surely not.

    Would those films be as unsuccessful if they were being released now, though? The straighter approach seems to have worked pretty well with Daniel Craig, despite a couple of creative hiccups.

    Agreed. It also worked with the early Connery’s. Even today, many fans both young and old, both enthusiasts and casual viewers name the early Connery’s as the highlights of the series.

    Indeed, Eon have stated that they are always striving to get back to the quality of FRWL.
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