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Having said that though, the new guy hasn’t won me over yet. They’ve got the physique right this time, but he seems a bit chirpier than I’d ever pictured the character. Cruise may not have looked the part, but I do think he nailed the demeanour. Hopefully that’s just the tone of the trailer throwing me off though (I don’t think the music helped), because I’m still quite excited. The fight scenes look great, and I think going to streaming was a smart call. The longer format probably suits the character better, and grounded, mid budget thrillers aren’t as successful at the cinema as they used to be. Not sure something like Jack Reacher could compete with all the mega budget blockbusters.
And no, I am not missing out on anything. I had no interest anyway due to being cast wrong against type.
I do look forward to hearing your opinions on the tv series. Yes, "too chirpier" kind of nails what I was getting. But I hope that all improves.
Well you are, because it's a cracking thriller. And if you're interested in Reacher-style thrillers, then you'd likely enjoy this one. It's a bit like being a James Bond fan and refusing to watch a (brilliant) Jason Bourne film because he's a spy and has the initials JB. Just pretend he isn't playing Reacher but a similar character and enjoy it.
Totally fair enough, I can see that: like a human Hellboy (a young Ron Perlman would seem a good fit as I understand it). But it's a great thriller all the same.
Yeah, it might just be the particular scenes they chose, but he does seem to be quite one-note in his delivery, and as you say: he seems to be enjoying himself more than (what I understand of) Reacher should be. Isn't he a bit more Eastwood Man-With-No-Name? This one seems to be a bit more Roger Moore Bond judging by this trailer.
Can understand not watching Cruise as the character, that's an easy sell for me. Or not watching simply because it's Cruise as well. All understandable.
Side note: How does the second JR film compared to the first? I understand it's not as good, but how much of a drop in quality is it?
It’s fine, it’s just that the first one has a bit of secret sauce that makes it feel like a 70s thriller. The second one doesn’t have that (and the sauce is MacQuarrie) and so it just feels like a pretty ordinary film. It’ll entertain you enough, but you’ll get to the end and wonder why anyone bothered making it.
Let’s face it, the source material is not really an extraordinarily original idea but fairly derivative, so it needs to be made with a lot of style to make it feel good. If you make Reacher without adding something then you can end up with TV Movie stuff, and that’s why this TV show worries me slightly.
Thanks! It's been on my to-watch list since it's release, but I've never got around to watch it. Not missing out then, I guess; might give it a watch if it pops up on a streaming service I already subscribe to.
Good point re. the source material. I like the Reacher books, but it takes a bit of effort to make them stand out on screen, that's for sure. The first Reacher film did have that secret sauce you mention @mtm, and I was pleasantly surprised it turned out the way it did. I hope the TV show manage to capture some of what the first film did well, and it does have the advantage of a longer running time.
The first Reacher film was really good. The second, not so much. I could have gone for a third Cruise film, but at the same time, I think that this series looks like it could be pretty good. I like that they're adapting Killing Floor, which was one of the novels that I really remember enjoying. Looking forward to it.
Thanks. Yes, for me it was both. So no way I will ever watch it; enjoyment not even possible; and I definitely did not miss out. I do, however, really hope the new series is good.
It's an excellent film thriller, very enjoyable.
Certainly looks promising?
It really is night and day. Alan Ritchson is a way better casting – stature wise at least.
Just watched the first episode a good start, good casting. Alan Ritchson I have seen in other shows including Titans he has a good screen pressence.
A particular scene was brutal.
I like Tom's two films especially the first one though he was miscast in the role.
I liked the first episode I am intrigued to see where it goes next, will watch the second episode tomorrow.
Five episodes in and he is struggling to sell the super clever detective aspect for me. However, with it being a TV show that doesn't have the budget of a film, there's a lot more telling rather than showing and that's partly a cause of it, too. Cruise's Reacher didn't have to spend considerable amounts of time during scenes explaining things; the film was able to show you him doing the detective work and visually get the findings across without dialogue.
That aside, I'm still really enjoying it. There's been some great fights, some great dialogue, and the chemistry between characters has been strong. It's not reinventing the wheel nor does it have the atmosphere of the first film, but it's a really enjoyable watch.
And honestly his size feels a little overplayed, I don't think he looks quite as impossibly huge as every other character seems to react as him being: it feels a bit silly. Maybe he is in real life, but I don't think it really comes through the screen all that much.
It's not quite the same as something like Bosch (which Amazon also did a great job with and was a selling point for them taking on Reacher for me initially), which was a wonderful detective show and made me want to go and read the books afterwards.