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  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    Had to look it up. It was alright I guess. It did remind me of the original Tomb Raider game a bit.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I know people are allowed to have their own opinions and all, but if baffles me whenever somebody doesn't have Goldeneye in their top 10 rankings. The film is ultimately what kicked off the Modern Bond era, and it did so with a bang. You can make the case for why the rest of the Brosnan era wasn't so great, but Goldeneye is one of the finest films that EON made. It has such energy that hasn't been seen in the series since TSWLM. It brought us 4 of the best villains/henchmen that this series has ever seen. It's sets (while not being on the level of Ken Adams) are amazing, and it's action set pieces are spectacular as well.
    Well said. Completely in agreement.
    Murdock wrote: »
    The GoldenEye overture is a thing of beauty. :)
    +1. I love the score. Much more inventive than what came after in my view.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 35,147
    Murdock wrote: »
    Had to look it up. It was alright I guess. It did remind me of the original Tomb Raider game a bit.

    It's so chilling and ominous to me, perfectly sets the mood and the scene. It might not be amped up and fun like Barry's tracks, and it's definitely not something I'd be whistling to myself, but it's a lovely track nevertheless.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    I think a few of Newman's ambient Tracks were good in both films but I think he did a poor job with the action sadly.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    SF's score was great imho. SP's was rubbish.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I think a few of Newman's ambient Tracks were good in both films but I think he did a poor job with the action sadly.

    Most of his action tracks were entirely forgettable, which is a shame.

    @bondjames, but they're one and the same!
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Serra was asked back too. He turned it .[/quote]

    Do you have a source for this? I've only seen articles that state the producers hated his score. Why would they ask Serra back when they had to pay another composer to re-score the tank chase?

  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
    edited April 2017 Posts: 16,085
    suavejmf wrote: »

    Do you have a source for this? I've only seen articles that state the producers hated his score. Why would they ask Serra back when they had to pay another composer to re-score the tank chase?

    Someone on here mentioned it a few days ago somewhere.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2017 Posts: 23,883
    @Creasy47, I knew that was coming! I almost wanted to end my comment with that caveat.

    There are recycled tracks sure, but the parts that aren't recycled are what I liked best about SF's score. Shanghai Drive, New Digs, The Chimera, Severine, Tennyson, Welcome to Scotland etc. are all excellent imho. I really like The Moors in SF too because it's only 2.39 minutes in the earlier film and not more like 20 minutes of endless drone as it is in SP.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Costa Mucho
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    @007ClassicBondFan

    DN FRWL GF OHMSS GE in your Top 5 and mentioning TSWLM.
    I applaud you Sir.

    GF-OHMSS-TSWLM-GE-CR

    "Tastes differ" and "imho" aside I think those five should and probably are viewed in general as the true greats by any fan who can think objectively.

    Ho hum.
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    As of 21April 2017 :

    1) OHMSS
    2) FRWL
    3) CR
    4) QOS
    5) TB
    6) OP
    7) SF
    8) GE
    9) LTK (+1)
    10)TWINE (-1)
    11)TSWLM
    12)SP
    13)DN
    14)TND
    15)GF
    16)AVTAK
    17)LALD
    18)DAD
    19)DAF (+3)
    20)TMWTGG
    21)YOLT (-2)
    22)FYEO (-2)
    23)MR
    24)TLD

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Costa Mucho
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    The traditional top three, and why not? They are the cream.
  • barryt007 wrote: »
    As of 21April 2017 :

    1) OHMSS

    H to the -ell yeah!

    Same with various other Top 10-ers of yours: CR, QOS, TB, GE, LTK, TWINE.

    FRWL, OP, and SF are no slouchers either. A fine Top 10, sir.
  • edited April 2017 Posts: 19,339
    Thank you Gentlemen !! \:D/
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Murdock wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »

    Do you have a source for this? I've only seen articles that state the producers hated his score. Why would they ask Serra back when they had to pay another composer to re-score the tank chase?

    Someone on here mentioned it a few days ago somewhere.

    I'll take that as hearsay then.

    This on the other hand.....http://jamesbondradio.com/composer-john-altman-explains-what-went-wrong-with-goldeneyes-score-exclusive-by-matthew-chernov/.

    "I got a phone call on the Friday before the film’s release, which was literally a week away, saying “Could you come in?” And I turned to my assistant and said “It’s the tank chase! I know it!” Because I’d heard what Eric had written for the tank chase, which had no orchestration at all. It was all sort of synthesized, and was very low-key and didn’t cut through. It was eccentric. He took it into a weird space of oriental disco.

    And what happened was, they were dubbing the film, and they literally had a revolution of the dubbing editor and the editor, who said “I want my name off this movie if this cue stays in. This is the highlight of the film. It’s not James Bond. It’s not what we’re used to.” They’d all worked on the classic John Barry scores. And they said “This is not James Bond! This is a different film!”

    The Broccoli family was a bit baffled by what Eric was giving them. So everyone was a bit wary.

    All I remember is Michael Wilson saying “IF I’D KNOWN YOU WERE THIS QUICK I’D GIVEN YOU THE WHOLE FILM.” (John Altman).

    I doubt Serra was asked back.
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »

    Do you have a source for this? I've only seen articles that state the producers hated his score. Why would they ask Serra back when they had to pay another composer to re-score the tank chase?

    Someone on here mentioned it a few days ago somewhere.

    I'll take that as hearsay then.

    This on the other hand.....http://jamesbondradio.com/composer-john-altman-explains-what-went-wrong-with-goldeneyes-score-exclusive-by-matthew-chernov/.

    "I got a phone call on the Friday before the film’s release, which was literally a week away, saying “Could you come in?” And I turned to my assistant and said “It’s the tank chase! I know it!” Because I’d heard what Eric had written for the tank chase, which had no orchestration at all. It was all sort of synthesized, and was very low-key and didn’t cut through. It was eccentric. He took it into a weird space of oriental disco.

    And what happened was, they were dubbing the film, and they literally had a revolution of the dubbing editor and the editor, who said “I want my name off this movie if this cue stays in. This is the highlight of the film. It’s not James Bond. It’s not what we’re used to.” They’d all worked on the classic John Barry scores. And they said “This is not James Bond! This is a different film!”

    The Broccoli family was a bit baffled by what Eric was giving them. So everyone was a bit wary.

    All I remember is Michael Wilson saying “IF I’D KNOWN YOU WERE THIS QUICK I’D GIVEN YOU THE WHOLE FILM.” (John Altman).

    I doubt Serra was asked back.

    I've listened to a lot of JB podcasts recently, and one of them said Serra was asked back.

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Seems crazy since Producers weren't happy with the GE score.
  • vzok wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »

    Do you have a source for this? I've only seen articles that state the producers hated his score. Why would they ask Serra back when they had to pay another composer to re-score the tank chase?

    Someone on here mentioned it a few days ago somewhere.

    I'll take that as hearsay then.

    This on the other hand.....http://jamesbondradio.com/composer-john-altman-explains-what-went-wrong-with-goldeneyes-score-exclusive-by-matthew-chernov/.

    "I got a phone call on the Friday before the film’s release, which was literally a week away, saying “Could you come in?” And I turned to my assistant and said “It’s the tank chase! I know it!” Because I’d heard what Eric had written for the tank chase, which had no orchestration at all. It was all sort of synthesized, and was very low-key and didn’t cut through. It was eccentric. He took it into a weird space of oriental disco.

    And what happened was, they were dubbing the film, and they literally had a revolution of the dubbing editor and the editor, who said “I want my name off this movie if this cue stays in. This is the highlight of the film. It’s not James Bond. It’s not what we’re used to.” They’d all worked on the classic John Barry scores. And they said “This is not James Bond! This is a different film!”

    The Broccoli family was a bit baffled by what Eric was giving them. So everyone was a bit wary.

    All I remember is Michael Wilson saying “IF I’D KNOWN YOU WERE THIS QUICK I’D GIVEN YOU THE WHOLE FILM.” (John Altman).

    I doubt Serra was asked back.

    I've listened to a lot of JB podcasts recently, and one of them said Serra was asked back.

    I've heard Serra was asked "Bach?" To which Serra replied, "No, me." Mic drop and exeunt.
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    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. DR NO
    3. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    4. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. THUNDERBALL
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. CASINO ROYALE
    8. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    9. OCTOPUSSY/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. LICENCE TO KILL
    11. LIVE AND LET DIE
    12. SKYFALL
    13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    14. A VIEW TO A KILL
    15. GOLDENEYE
    16. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    17. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE/ CR'54
    18. SPECTRE
    19. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    20. MOONRAKER
    21. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    22. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    23. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY/CR '67
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    My compliments on that list @ToTheRight. We fundamentally differ on GF, TLD & AVTAK (which I have significantly lower) and GE, QoS & TMWTGG (which I have quite a bit higher). Still, not bad at all.
  • Posts: 12,812
    bondjames wrote: »
    My compliments on that list @ToTheRight. We fundamentally differ on GF, TLD & AVTAK (which I have significantly lower) and GE, QoS & TMWTGG (which I have quite a bit higher). Still, not bad at all.

    Thanks! They are very difficult (but fun) to rank as I love them all...even DAD and CR'67. My top 10 are pretty easy and pretty much change very little.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2017 Posts: 23,883
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    My compliments on that list @ToTheRight. We fundamentally differ on GF, TLD & AVTAK (which I have significantly lower) and GE, QoS & TMWTGG (which I have quite a bit higher). Still, not bad at all.

    Thanks! They are very difficult (but fun) to rank as I love them all...even DAD and CR'67. My top 10 are pretty easy and pretty much change very little.
    Yes, I think most people have a pretty firm top 10 or 5. I always am surprised by how many people rank LALD/FYEO and sometimes TLD very close together in and around the #'s 10 to 15 spots.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    My compliments on that list @ToTheRight. We fundamentally differ on GF, TLD & AVTAK (which I have significantly lower) and GE, QoS & TMWTGG (which I have quite a bit higher). Still, not bad at all.

    Thanks! They are very difficult (but fun) to rank as I love them all...even DAD and CR'67. My top 10 are pretty easy and pretty much change very little.

    Ow !!!

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    A few changes. QoS falls a bit and MR moves up a bit.

    1. FRWL
    2. TB
    3. TSWLM
    4. CR
    5. OHMSS
    6. DN
    7. GE
    8. SF
    9. OP
    10. LTK
    11. LALD
    12. FYEO
    13. TLD
    14. GF
    15. TMWTGG
    16. MR
    17. DAF
    18. TND
    19. QoS
    20. YOLT
    21. SP
    22. AVTAK
    23. DAD
    24. TWINE
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    Just finished making my way through the films again for the first time this year. I enjoyed the Bond films from the 70s much more this time through.

    1. FRWL
    2. DN
    3. GF
    4. OHMSS
    5. CR
    6. GE
    7. SF
    8. MR
    9. YOLT
    10. TSWLM
    11. TND
    12. DAF
    13. TMWTGG
    14. LALD
    15. FYEO
    16. OP
    17. TB
    18. SP
    19. LTK
    20. TLD
    21. TWINE
    22. DAD
    23. NSNA
    24. AVTAK
    25. QOS
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Costa Mucho
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    Great top five.
  • edited May 2017 Posts: 1,385
    Thank you. Great picture.
  • edited May 2017 Posts: 1,469
    It's been a year since I've done this. Last time I ranked them totally objectively, and this time it's half objective, half (or maybe more) on my enjoyment of them. Most notably, SP moves way up.

    1. Dr. No
    2. Casino Royale
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Skyfall
    5. SPECTRE
    6. Goldfinger
    7. From Russia With Love
    8. Quantum Of Solace
    9. For Your Eyes Only
    10. Thunderball
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me
    12. GoldenEye
    13. Moonraker
    14. The Man With The Golden Gun
    15. The Living Daylights
    16. You Only Live Twice
    17. The World Is Not Enough
    18. Octopussy
    19. Tomorrow Never Dies
    20. License To Kill
    21. A View To A Kill
    22. Diamonds Are Forever
    23. Die Another Day
    24. Live And Let Die

    Never Say Never Again just after License to Kill.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Costa Mucho
    edited May 2017 Posts: 41,923
    That is a very good top eleven.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    I think it's almost pointless to try and rank all the Bond movies because really how much I like one over another would depend on my mood and what I'm more interested in at the time. For sure I would know what my top 3 or 5 are and what my bottom 3 are. Those have never changed unless a new Bond film comes out and takes a spot.

    1. GoldenEye
    2. Casino Royale
    3. From Russia With Love

    22. For Your Eyes Only
    23. Octopussy
    24. A View To A Kill

    I'm currently trying to finish up my Bondathon with the Craig era. I may try to do a full ranking list after I finish it.
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