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  • ChriskarrChriskarr Spain
    edited February 2017 Posts: 44
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    Chriskarr wrote: »
    Chriskarr wrote: »
    By the way, do you have any (or the two who wrote) script written by William Davies and William Osborne.

    Nope I unfortunatly have nothing about Bond 17 in my papers (exept the Micheal France script).
    PS : C'est Clément de CJB.

    All I have of Bond 17 is:
    -The chapter from the book "Some Kind of Hero".
    -The article that Clément published about the story of Bond 17.
    -The one that CJB published about the script by Alfonse Ruggiero and Michael Wilson.
    -The article that Clément published about Michael France's Goldeneye draft.
    -And the January 1994 Goldeneye draft written by Michael France in PDF.
    That's all I have about Bond 17. I wish I had more to share.
    I guess someday we'll get Davies and Osborne's script (or both) about Bond 17.


    I mentioned this in another thread, but I would love to know who Simon L. Aturif is and what he contributed to the '90s Bond films (treatments? screenplays?).

    Aturif has a co-author credit on drafts of both GOLDENEYE and TOMORROW NEVER DIES, but I've never seen his name mentioned in any of the Bond reference books, including Some Kind of Hero. I also can't find any information about him online, so I'm wondering if that name was a pseudonym (perhaps for Michael G. Wilson).

    This is the first information I have about it. It must be some pseudonym, as you say.
    What I have read is that in May 1993, producers hired Richard Smith and John Cork to write drafts for future films (surely Bond 18). variety.com/1993/film/news/danjaq-on-bond-wagon-with-two-script-deals-107186/
  • edited February 2017 Posts: 559
    Chriskarr wrote: »
    What I have read is that in May 1993, producers hired Richard Smith and John Cork to write drafts for future films (surely Bond 18). variety.com/1993/film/news/danjaq-on-bond-wagon-with-two-script-deals-107186/

    Thanks! I have seen that Variety article before.

    Funny thing is, the author of the article got Richard Smith confused with at least three other people in the industry with the same name! Smith wrote several scripts, but his only onscreen credit is for LOCK UP, and he never worked as a film producer, actor, or make-up artist. Great research from the Variety staff! LOL.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Anybody have the October 8 SP script?
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    Anybody have the October 8 SP script?

    Have be it, and be ok to echange it against a script I haven't (like the TLD or Bond 17 which are in Script City)... (or a Goldeneye/TND workprint).
  • ChriskarrChriskarr Spain
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    Anybody have the October 8 SP script?

    Have be it, and be ok to echange it against a script I haven't (like the TLD or Bond 17 which are in Script City)... (or a Goldeneye/TND workprint).
    Yes, and please, when you get the draft of Bond 17, share it in PDF. Even if someday you get that of Davies and Osborne.

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    Chriskarr wrote: »
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    Chriskarr wrote: »
    Chriskarr wrote: »
    By the way, do you have any (or the two who wrote) script written by William Davies and William Osborne.

    Nope I unfortunatly have nothing about Bond 17 in my papers (exept the Micheal France script).
    PS : C'est Clément de CJB.

    All I have of Bond 17 is:
    -The chapter from the book "Some Kind of Hero".
    -The article that Clément published about the story of Bond 17.
    -The one that CJB published about the script by Alfonse Ruggiero and Michael Wilson.
    -The article that Clément published about Michael France's Goldeneye draft.
    -And the January 1994 Goldeneye draft written by Michael France in PDF.
    That's all I have about Bond 17. I wish I had more to share.
    I guess someday we'll get Davies and Osborne's script (or both) about Bond 17.


    I mentioned this in another thread, but I would love to know who Simon L. Aturif is and what he contributed to the '90s Bond films (treatments? screenplays?).

    Aturif has a co-author credit on drafts of both GOLDENEYE and TOMORROW NEVER DIES, but I've never seen his name mentioned in any of the Bond reference books, including Some Kind of Hero. I also can't find any information about him online, so I'm wondering if that name was a pseudonym (perhaps for Michael G. Wilson).

    This is the first information I have about it. It must be some pseudonym, as you say.
    What I have read is that in May 1993, producers hired Richard Smith and John Cork to write drafts for future films (surely Bond 18). variety.com/1993/film/news/danjaq-on-bond-wagon-with-two-script-deals-107186/

    Interesting article. How times have changed though. I liked how they were writing for future films to make their 2 year deadlines. Wish they'd go that route now.
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 776
    After few years of collectioning, and lot of money invest in it, this is what I have ( I have review the most of them here : www.commander007.net/category/james-bond-films/scripts/ )

    - Murder on wheels - Ian Fleming
    - Thunderball - First draft - Maibaum - 18 august 1961
    - Dr No - 5th draft screenplay - Maibaum & co. - 8/01/61
    - From Russia With Love - Maibaum - date unknow
    - Goldfinger
    - Thunderball - Maibaum & John Hopkins revised 19 january 1965
    - You only live twice - Roald Dahl - 17 june 1966
    - On Her Majesty's Secret Service - "Realease script" - december 1969
    - Diamonds are forever - Tom Mankiewicz - 24 february 1971 - revised first draft
    - Live and let die - Tom Mankiewicz - shooting script - 2 october 1972
    - The man with golden gun - Maibaum - first draft screenplay - 17 january 1974
    - The spy who loved me - Revised shooting draft - 23 august 1976
    - Warhead - 1976 - Connery, Deighton, McClory
    - Warhead - 1978 - Connery, Deighton, McClory
    - Moonraker - date unknow
    - Moonraker - 5/19/78
    - For your eyes only - Maibaum & Wilson - 12 august 1980
    - Octopussy - 8.19.82
    - Never say never again - december 1982
    - A view to a kill - Maibaum & Wilson - 20 june 1984
    - The living daylight - second draft screenplay
    - The living daylight - 22 may 1986 (only exctacts, no a complete script)
    - Licence to kill - revised treatment - 4 march 1988
    - Bond 17 outline - Micheal Wison & Alfonse Ruggerio - 8 may 1990
    - Goldeneye - First draft - Michael France - janvier 94
    - Goldeneye - Shooting script
    - Bond 18 (Tomorrow Never Lies) - Bruce Feirstein - First Draft - 23 august 96
    - License To Thrill - script of the attraction ride
    - The world is not enought - Purvis & wade - first draft - 18 june 1998
    - The world is not enought - Purvis & wade - date unknow
    - Casino Royale - Purvis & Wade & Haggis - 13 december 2005
    - Spectre : 8 october
    - Spectre : 17 october
    - Spectre : 1 december

    Before you ask I not give any copy of them, only trade them against copy of scripts I doesn't have (or the GoldenEye workprint).
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    After few years of collectioning, and lot of money invest in it, this is what I have ( I have review the most of them here : www.commander007.net/category/james-bond-films/scripts/ )

    A very impressive selection--I don't know of any English-language Bond sites with script sections as extensive. Thankfully Chrome does a good job of auto-translating French, so I was able to easily read these.
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    Revelator wrote: »
    A very impressive selection--I don't know of any English-language Bond sites with script sections as extensive. Thankfully Chrome does a good job of auto-translating French, so I was able to easily read these.

    Thanks glad too hear you like it. It's takes hours and hours to read, compile, translate and re-read for orthography, so when someone give me feedback I'm happy (but unfortunally, these kind of articles seems interress almost no one in France, there are not many views on it).
    BTW there are a new article today, about a GoldenEye shooting script.

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    Chriskarr wrote: »
    What I have read is that in May 1993, producers hired Richard Smith and John Cork to write drafts for future films (surely Bond 18). variety.com/1993/film/news/danjaq-on-bond-wagon-with-two-script-deals-107186/

    The new issue of MI6 Confidential has an article on the Smith treatment.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    I used to have a copy of the damn Spectre script, now I can't find it anywhere.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I used to have a copy of the damn Spectre script, now I can't find it anywhere.

    PM me.
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    Any luck for drafts of Skyfall or Quantum of Solace?
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 776
    Just for let you know, if you are a resident of the USA, you can probably access to all the scripts of Maibaum in Iowa, and the John Cork collection (who even include the script of "Jinx'" cancelled spin-off !) in Los Angeles : http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/scua/msc/tomsc150/msc149/msc149.html & http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8pz5bbw/entire_text/
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 2,305
    The Maibaum collection sounds especially tantalizing. I'm especially interested in his drafts of Diamonds Are Forever, which went from a serious revenge film for Lazenby to a caper involving Goldfinger's brother and then to the pre-Mankiewicz adventure that ended with a boat chase on Lake Mead.
    I'd also love to read Maibaum's drafts of The Spy Who Loved Me, especially the Spectre draft that was "too political" for Broccoli, and For Your Eyes Only, which had more romance than the final film. Someone really need to write a book about the unused Bond scripts!
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 776
    View to a kill with the Haley comet could be awsome to see too. A book or just detaillied summary on simple web articles...
  • Maibaum went to school at the University of Iowa and donated his papers there. By coincidence, television producer Norman Felton also went to Iowa and donated his papers. As a result, the university also has a treasure trove of documents about The Man From UNCLE.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Someone should go here and tell us about it.
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    Just for let you know, if you are a resident of the USA, you can probably access to all the scripts of Maibaum in Iowa, and the John Cork collection (who even include the script of "Jinx'" cancelled spin-off !) in Los Angeles : http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/scua/msc/tomsc150/msc149/msc149.html & http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8pz5bbw/entire_text/

    So you mean to tell me a bunch of early Bond scripts have been sitting in the University of Iowa library for years for anyone to access and we're just now finding out about it?!
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    coco1997 wrote: »
    Just for let you know, if you are a resident of the USA, you can probably access to all the scripts of Maibaum in Iowa, and the John Cork collection (who even include the script of "Jinx'" cancelled spin-off !) in Los Angeles : http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/scua/msc/tomsc150/msc149/msc149.html & http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8pz5bbw/entire_text/

    So you mean to tell me a bunch of early Bond scripts have been sitting in the University of Iowa library for years for anyone to access and we're just now finding out about it?!

    Basically.
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    coco1997 wrote: »
    Just for let you know, if you are a resident of the USA, you can probably access to all the scripts of Maibaum in Iowa, and the John Cork collection (who even include the script of "Jinx'" cancelled spin-off !) in Los Angeles : http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/scua/msc/tomsc150/msc149/msc149.html & http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8pz5bbw/entire_text/

    So you mean to tell me a bunch of early Bond scripts have been sitting in the University of Iowa library for years for anyone to access and we're just now finding out about it?!

    Basically.

    All right, so who's our field agent on the ground in Iowa?
  • coco1997 wrote: »
    Just for let you know, if you are a resident of the USA, you can probably access to all the scripts of Maibaum in Iowa, and the John Cork collection (who even include the script of "Jinx'" cancelled spin-off !) in Los Angeles : http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/scua/msc/tomsc150/msc149/msc149.html & http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8pz5bbw/entire_text/

    So you mean to tell me a bunch of early Bond scripts have been sitting in the University of Iowa library for years for anyone to access and we're just now finding out about it?!

    When Adrian Turner, the British film historian, did his 1998 book about Goldfinger he described where the Maibaum scripts were located. He went to Iowa to research the various drafts, which he described in detail.

    While not movies, the bulk of Ian Fleming's Bond manuscripts are at Indiana University. The school's Lilly Library (which includes a Gutenberg Bible) picked them up when it purchased Fleming's first-edition book collection in the 1960s.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Wow, have you noticed this Maibaum's paper?

    Test scene, 1986. [Using scene from On Her Majesty's Secret Service]

    We also have this on the OHMSS' box:

    Test scenes, 1968.

    Pure gold...
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    Bill Koenig at the The Spy Command blog looked at some of the early Maibaum scripts, including THUNDERBALL, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY and A VIEW TO A KILL:

    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/tag/richard-maibaum/

    I haven't read either of his books, but I'm guessing Charles Helfenstein used the Maibaum collection for his work on The Making of OHMSS and TLD.
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 559
    Koenig apparently got the scripts from "Bond collector" Gary Firuta, who I've concluded is the person behind the pseudonym Simon L. Aturif (spell it backwards). The Aturif name appears as co-writer on circulating drafts of GOLDENEYE and TOMORROW NEVER DIES. The added pseudonym was probably Firuta's way of branding his copies.
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    When Adrian Turner, the British film historian, did his 1998 book about Goldfinger he described where the Maibaum scripts were located. He went to Iowa to research the various drafts, which he described in detail.

    Yes, and Turner's book is excellent and much recommended. He shows exactly who thought of what in the script and demonstrates how important Paul Dehn's contributions were.
    While not movies, the bulk of Ian Fleming's Bond manuscripts are at Indiana University. The school's Lilly Library (which includes a Gutenberg Bible) picked them up when it purchased Fleming's first-edition book collection in the 1960s.

    Also included is Fleming's never-published travelogue of Kuwait, State of Excitement--something of a holy grail for Fleming fanatics.
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    I haven't read either of his books, but I'm guessing Charles Helfenstein used the Maibaum collection for his work on The Making of OHMSS and TLD.

    I have the OHMSS book and can say your guess is correct. The genesis of the OHMSS script (from 1965 onward) and Maibaum's plans for DAF were utterly fascinating, the highlights of the book in my opinion.

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    Yes, and Turner's book is excellent and much recommended. He shows exactly who thought of what in the script and demonstrates how important Paul Dehn's contributions were.//

    That's absolutely correct. Dehn solved the problem (as best as anyone could solve it) of coming up with a plausible reason for Goldfinger to not kill Bond in the middle of the movie.

    Dehn, however, had one oddball idea that thankfully wasn't implemented. He envisioned the movie with "curtains" closing on the last scene as if it were a play.

  • edited January 2018 Posts: 2,305
    That's right--fortunately Maibaum and Dehn were able to rectify each other's flaws and produce a superb screenplay, perhaps the best in the series.

    In one of my earlier posts I forgot to mention another film with a rich, tantalizing script history: Octopussy. The Taschen Bond book discusses the earliest version of the script:

    "Blofeld returns as the primary antagonist, locked in a war with a group of bullion smugglers who carry out low level espionage work, and are led by Octopussy. Blofeld plans to remove M from control of MI6 and replace him with his mole Villiers, M's chief of staff, which would allow him to manipulate the West's secret services. M is assassinated, thus leading to Moneypenny's being fired and replaced, and Bond is framed as a double agent. On the run and eager to clear his name, Bond works with Octopussy and Kamal Khan, an old school friend of Bond's working with the Afghan resistance, to defeat Blofeld and his army chief, Smythe."

    Other drafts portrayed Octopussy as an Asian woman who ran a nightclub in Tokyo and teamed up with Goldfinger's diamond-obsessed brother, Monsieur Diamont. Maibaum apparently had a fixation with the terrible idea of Goldfinger's twin brother and also used him in several drafts of Diamonds Are Forever.

    Anyway, the Spectre version of Octopussy sounds like a fascinating what-if? and would have been a gutsy, radical change in direction for the series. I wonder if it was written before Bernard Lee's death and intended as his farewell to the role.

    On a non-Bondian note, take a look at this entry in Maibaum's script collection:
    Batman:
    Notes for a revision of Michael Uslan's screenplay.
    Screenplay by Michael Uslan, 1979. Revisions by Richard Maibaum.
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