Martin Campbell - Appreciation Thread

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  • Posts: 2,117
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Many people were not born when GE was released

    Doesn't mean that people are advertising the product can't mention other great products with great legacies. Fargo and The Big Lebowski are still advertised for the Coen Brothers almost 30 years later. That's a possible sign that CR is aging well. But some movies are advertised with certain people decades later. Just maybe not as much as Martin Campbell with Casino Royale. Even Spielberg could use Close Encounters of the Third Kind as an advertisement for his upcoming UFO movie.

    I think it's ponitless. They are old movies. If you haven't made a good movie in 30 years you have a problem.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 1 Posts: 9,030
    In conclusion, Martin Campbell's potential return to the James Bond series offers dependability. Whether his appointment would be met with enthusiasm by fans, he is a safe bet. Plus, he's a company man and will listen to EON when it come to the big decisions.

    Bingo, you hit the nail on the head P2D. And now that Amazon is running the show that reliability and familiarity with the fans will mean more than ever. Imagine the next trailer starts with "from the director of Goldeneye and Casino Royale". Now let's get this show on the road! B-)
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    People might say that GE and CR aren't the most artistic films in terms of Cinematography, I disagree, but Martin has given us some of the most iconic shots in the history of the series

    Goldeneye-0029.jpg

    Casino-Royale-0923.jpg
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,181
    CR impressed me with the cinematography and editing. Fresh angles and transitions harking back to the 60s.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 1 Posts: 2,683
    Agreed, guys. Campbell always seems to be extra pumped when he's directing Bond. It's almost like he only respects Bond, but doesn't respect other films/franchises.
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    Depending on how quickly Amazon want to move with Bond? I feel sadly that Campbell will be too old to take on an even bigger Bond challenge? However? I am more than happy for him to prove me wrong?!!! :)) :-bd
  • Posts: 2,108
    I wish people would stop saying Campbell is too old to direct another Bond movie. Clint Eastwood just directed his last movie at 94 years old. Age is only a number.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    People might say that GE and CR aren't the most artistic films in terms of Cinematography, I disagree, but Martin has given us some of the most iconic shots in the history of the series

    Goldeneye-0029.jpg

    Casino-Royale-0923.jpg

    I genuinely wonder who says this. GE in particular was quite radical in terms of cinematography for Bond films. It comes down to Phil Meheux and his teams fundamentally, but I think it was Campbell who brought him on.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    People might say that GE and CR aren't the most artistic films in terms of Cinematography, I disagree, but Martin has given us some of the most iconic shots in the history of the series

    Goldeneye-0029.jpg

    Casino-Royale-0923.jpg

    I genuinely wonder who says this. GE in particular was quite radical in terms of cinematography for Bond films. It comes down to Phil Meheux and his teams fundamentally, but I think it was Campbell who brought him on.

    It's one of those things I've read online in the past mate. They say "Campbell is a workman director and not really an artistic director"

    Personally I think nothing could be further from the truth, Campbell is a brilliant fit for Bond and his films reflect that. Being a "workman" director is exactly what I want for Bond.

    I still remember how vibrant Casino looked when I went to see it opening night, the colours just popped off the screen and yet the action still felt so kinetic and visceral even more than it had in Goldeneye.
  • edited March 3 Posts: 5,419
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    People might say that GE and CR aren't the most artistic films in terms of Cinematography, I disagree, but Martin has given us some of the most iconic shots in the history of the series

    Goldeneye-0029.jpg

    Casino-Royale-0923.jpg

    I genuinely wonder who says this. GE in particular was quite radical in terms of cinematography for Bond films. It comes down to Phil Meheux and his teams fundamentally, but I think it was Campbell who brought him on.

    It's one of those things I've read online in the past mate. They say "Campbell is a workman director and not really an artistic director"

    Personally I think nothing could be further from the truth, Campbell is a brilliant fit for Bond and his films reflect that. Being a "workman" director is exactly what I want for Bond.

    I still remember how vibrant Casino looked when I went to see it opening night, the colours just popped off the screen and yet the action still felt so kinetic and visceral even more than it had in Goldeneye.

    The whole 'workman-like' distinction is a bizarre one to me sometimes. As if the likes of Kubrick or Spielberg (or any of the 'great' directors, old and modern) never directed a film for hire or for a third party and simply did whatever they wanted to artistically. Or that they weren't in some way methodical. Not to say Campbell is as consistent as those examples, but he has stylistic/artistic consistencies which are there throughout most of his films, good or bad. In some bizarre way I'd argue he's more on the 'auteur' side if anything (although I don't like using that word and think it can be simplistic).
  • Posts: 2,117
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    People might say that GE and CR aren't the most artistic films in terms of Cinematography, I disagree, but Martin has given us some of the most iconic shots in the history of the series

    Goldeneye-0029.jpg

    Casino-Royale-0923.jpg

    I can't believe both movies are from the same director.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    Posts: 327
    Martin is a genius, so OF COURSE he should get the gig. He's earned it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,262
    007HallY wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    People might say that GE and CR aren't the most artistic films in terms of Cinematography, I disagree, but Martin has given us some of the most iconic shots in the history of the series

    Goldeneye-0029.jpg

    Casino-Royale-0923.jpg

    I genuinely wonder who says this. GE in particular was quite radical in terms of cinematography for Bond films. It comes down to Phil Meheux and his teams fundamentally, but I think it was Campbell who brought him on.

    It's one of those things I've read online in the past mate. They say "Campbell is a workman director and not really an artistic director"

    Personally I think nothing could be further from the truth, Campbell is a brilliant fit for Bond and his films reflect that. Being a "workman" director is exactly what I want for Bond.

    I still remember how vibrant Casino looked when I went to see it opening night, the colours just popped off the screen and yet the action still felt so kinetic and visceral even more than it had in Goldeneye.

    The whole 'workman-like' distinction is a bizarre one to me sometimes. As if the likes of Kubrick or Spielberg (or any of the 'great' directors, old and modern) never directed a film for hire or for a third party and simply did whatever they wanted to artistically. Or that they weren't in some way methodical. Not to say Campbell is as consistent as those examples, but he has stylistic/artistic consistencies which are there throughout most of his films, good or bad. In some bizarre way I'd argue he's more on the 'auteur' side if anything (although I don't like using that word and think it can be simplistic).

    Yeah I think he's a bit of both (he's certainly done some potboiler stuff which I guess was more for the money than some of his other stuff) but he's done plenty of the more 'arty' stuff, and became well-known for directing a BAFTA-winning TV serial drama: he's no journeyman, he's a proper director.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I don’t know if this has been previously posted, but it’s interesting

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 9 Posts: 18,262


    Well, couldn't find anything else to watch so gave this a go. Daisy Ridley is very good, the fight scenes are surprisingly energetic and brutal, and her co-star is her autistic brother who is played by an actual autistic actor who gives a terrific performance. The effects are pretty solid too. But other than that, oh dear. There's so many beats in it where you're obviously supposed to be reacting in a particular way, but everything feels unearned and hollow, it is hard to believe this is the Casino Royale guy.
    It's not the worst film ever made, but it is disappointing. It's short at least.
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    Poor Daisy. She's unlucky. I like the girl. She deserves a better career.

    Hopefully, Campbell met her husband and recommends him for Bond. ;)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah she is a great choice of star for this, the film isn’t as good as she is, sadly.
  • edited June 9 Posts: 4,443
    I've watched both Martin Campbell's new films....

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    Dirty Angels may have a dreadful title, but with Martin Campbell at the helm, it delivers a solid B-movie package with bloody shootouts and over-the-top violence. If you’re in the mood for mindless action (prolonged gunfights, exploding Humvees, and plenty of gore) it delivers. However, the film fails to engage emotionally. It had the potential to make a statement about women fighting oppression, but the characters are generic and underdeveloped, making it hard to invest in them. There’s virtually no team dynamic between the group we are asked to invest in, and any attempt at drama lacks weight. As a result, the film feels hollow amid the explosions and gunfire. The real locations help, but the cinematography has that oversaturated streaming movie look. Eva Green is reliably steely and world-weary, though her accent is woefully inconsistent.

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    Cleaner has a few things going for it: the eco-terrorist villains are more layered than expected, with a compelling internal divide between those trying to make a statement and those pushing for outright violence. Their plan to expose a corrupt organisation worse than themselves adds a sharp, morally grey edge to the story. Martin Campbell’s direction gives the film a polished, big-screen feel which is glossy and cinematic in a way that most straight-to-streaming thrillers rarely are (I believe Eigil Bryld did an uncredited job as cinematographer, which explains why the film looks better than Dirty Angels). But despite all that, the film leaves Daisy Ridley frustratingly sidelined for most of the runtime. She spends nearly an hour stranded outside the building where the action’s happening, only getting two brief fight scenes (both already shown in the trailer). Her character is styled like an early 2000s goth, and she’s saddled with a brother who contributes little beyond naff Marvel jokes. It’s hard not to wish she had her Die Hard moment - bruised, barefoot, and battling to confront the villain - but Cleaner never quite lets her take over her own movie.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 9 Posts: 18,262
    Puzzling that she's not inside the film for most of it, isn't it. She's really good too, she could easily have made a good action star in it, but she's not really allowed to.
  • edited June 10 Posts: 2,117
    I would like Campbell to make a Statham movie. I think they would make a good match..

    Maybe he's too old even for this. :(
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,262
    Not a bad call, yeah.
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    Cleaner was vastly better than Dirty Angles.

    Its low budget ($25m) and I think it accomplishes quite a bit for it, but yes having Daisy outside the skyscraper for a large stretch of the film is sadly a consequence of that.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    There's a puzzling bit where a baddie tries to blow her up with a huge bomb dangling outside, which she avoids and then says how she's stuck outside. She doesn't think to check on all the windows blown in, and presumably the huge hole, made by the bomb.
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